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		<title>By: zeppelinrox</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/2514/comment-page-1/#comment-11390</link>
		<dc:creator>zeppelinrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enter the forum and PM anybody you want to :)</description>
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		<title>By: Phlegmbot</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/2514/comment-page-1/#comment-11389</link>
		<dc:creator>Phlegmbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx, Zep! Hey, how do I PM him here? I&#039;d also like to get hold of ADIGITALMAN, b/c I&#039;m dying to have his extended Blazing Saddles edit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx, Zep! Hey, how do I PM him here? I&#8217;d also like to get hold of ADIGITALMAN, b/c I&#8217;m dying to have his extended Blazing Saddles edit.</p>
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		<title>By: zeppelinrox</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/2514/comment-page-1/#comment-11388</link>
		<dc:creator>zeppelinrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think Wearneo is re-working this edit.
Keep you ears open in the forum or PM him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think Wearneo is re-working this edit.<br />
Keep you ears open in the forum or PM him.</p>
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		<title>By: Phlegmbot</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/2514/comment-page-1/#comment-11386</link>
		<dc:creator>Phlegmbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 02:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it&#039;s no longer found on RapidShare -- is this cut available anywhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it&#8217;s no longer found on RapidShare &#8212; is this cut available anywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Phlegmbot</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/2514/comment-page-1/#comment-11318</link>
		<dc:creator>Phlegmbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 08:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said it elsewhere, I&#039;ll say it here: While Donner&#039;s cut does not have the perfect ending, and, honestly, I completely forgot that &quot;Would you care to step outside&quot; was cut, nothing about Lester&#039;s film made sense. Sure, as I kid I loved it, but as an adult, I&#039;ve learned to ask questions....

The villains and, in the climax, Superman himself, have powers which haven&#039;t previously existed; each and every time the villains interact with humans they&#039;re portrayed as dangerous version of the Three Stooges; never mind the casting problems (the Southern Sheriff and his British son [&quot;Please suh, please put my fahthuh down!&quot;])...and, of course, the Super-kiss. The kiss was a ridiculous &quot;resolution&quot; to Lois&#039;s problem with knowing about Clark/Superman. 

Of course, another gaffe in the Donner cut is, after Superman has turned the world around...why the heck did he need to go back to the diner? He undid that!

Anyway, I&#039;ve not downloaded this yet (but am posting this as I just don&#039;t know WHEN I&#039;ll get to it), but it sounds like a beautiful edition of Donner&#039;s cut. However, until someone can find a better way to end these movies (personally, I wonder if there&#039;s some way to create an edit w/Lois knowing and having she and Superman fly off into the sunset, letting that be that), I&#039;ll ultimately stick w/Supes turning the world back again. But I do thank you for creating this -- I&#039;m looking forward to taking a look!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it elsewhere, I&#8217;ll say it here: While Donner&#8217;s cut does not have the perfect ending, and, honestly, I completely forgot that &#8220;Would you care to step outside&#8221; was cut, nothing about Lester&#8217;s film made sense. Sure, as I kid I loved it, but as an adult, I&#8217;ve learned to ask questions&#8230;.</p>
<p>The villains and, in the climax, Superman himself, have powers which haven&#8217;t previously existed; each and every time the villains interact with humans they&#8217;re portrayed as dangerous version of the Three Stooges; never mind the casting problems (the Southern Sheriff and his British son ["Please suh, please put my fahthuh down!"])&#8230;and, of course, the Super-kiss. The kiss was a ridiculous &#8220;resolution&#8221; to Lois&#8217;s problem with knowing about Clark/Superman. </p>
<p>Of course, another gaffe in the Donner cut is, after Superman has turned the world around&#8230;why the heck did he need to go back to the diner? He undid that!</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve not downloaded this yet (but am posting this as I just don&#8217;t know WHEN I&#8217;ll get to it), but it sounds like a beautiful edition of Donner&#8217;s cut. However, until someone can find a better way to end these movies (personally, I wonder if there&#8217;s some way to create an edit w/Lois knowing and having she and Superman fly off into the sunset, letting that be that), I&#8217;ll ultimately stick w/Supes turning the world back again. But I do thank you for creating this &#8212; I&#8217;m looking forward to taking a look!</p>
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		<title>By: col.hutty</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/2514/comment-page-1/#comment-9975</link>
		<dc:creator>col.hutty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, it should have been a 6 of 10. I gave the correct rating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, it should have been a 6 of 10. I gave the correct rating.</p>
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		<title>By: col.hutty</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/2514/comment-page-1/#comment-9974</link>
		<dc:creator>col.hutty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an extended edition buff and have a big collection of original ones and all the fanedits from here.
Many extended editions do not add anything to the movie, just add more useless scenes. I will rate the ones here.
Rating criteria: image quality, sound quality, 3x improvement, overall.
Image Quality: 7 of 10
Sound Quality: 7 of 10
Improvement: 5 of 10
Overall: 5 of 10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an extended edition buff and have a big collection of original ones and all the fanedits from here.<br />
Many extended editions do not add anything to the movie, just add more useless scenes. I will rate the ones here.<br />
Rating criteria: image quality, sound quality, 3x improvement, overall.<br />
Image Quality: 7 of 10<br />
Sound Quality: 7 of 10<br />
Improvement: 5 of 10<br />
Overall: 5 of 10</p>
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		<title>By: Molasar</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/2514/comment-page-1/#comment-9907</link>
		<dc:creator>Molasar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FanEdit Review by Molasar â€“ REVISIONS ALL CAPS

Title/FanEditor: Superman II: The Complete Cut â€œVersion 2.0â€ by Wearneo

Prologue: Superman II was my favorite sequel as a kid.  Great poster, too.  As I matured, I grew fonder of the first film.  Richard Lesterâ€™s Superman II was too hokey for me as an adult.  It was too light.  (Superman Lite?)  Anyway, I was very excited to see Richard Donnerâ€™s version when it premiered on DVD.  It treated the characters and their story with much more respect â€“ it was more serious, if thatâ€™s the right word.  Zod and his minions are more ruthless and evil.  But, I felt that reusing the â€œmake the world spin backwards and reverse timeâ€ ending was lazy.  (I donâ€™t care if it was the original intention.)  With all the new extra footage available, I knew that fans would attempt to combine both versions â€“ especially fans like me who really liked Richard Lesterâ€™s Superman II growing up.  This is the second Superman II fanedit I have seen.  Based mostly on Donnerâ€™s cut, it bills itself as the complete cut.  Is it?  Read on.

The Edit:  Overall, I would say that this fanedit is a complete cut.  It includes Donnerâ€™s version (warts and all) plus the â€œstep outsideâ€ line replacing the â€œfreedom of the pressâ€ line, the â€œUS Arctic Patrolâ€ deleted scene (poor quality), the â€œamnesia kissâ€ scene, the â€œelevator bullyâ€ deleted scene, and it removes the recycled reverse time ending from Superman: The Movie.  It retains the serious nature of the Donner cut and even extends the emotional punch of Clark and Loisâ€™s relationship by using Lesterâ€™s ending.  The cuts were seamless and well timed.  I saw or heard no off musical cues or jumps anywhere.  An excellent job as far as cutting. *****/***** (â€œWartsâ€ meaning the use of screen test footage, stand-ins and ADR.) STILL A FANTASTIC EDIT!

Image Quality:  This fanedit was a PAL-sourced edit.  It was converted to NTSC on the DVD I screened.  The image was a bit soft and jittered during panning shots at the beginning.  Colors were a bit washed out.  So, good but not great.  ***/***** USING MY ALL-REGION OPPO, THE IMAGE IS NOTICEABLY SHARPER IN THIS NEW INCARNATION AND THERE IS LESS JITTER DURING THE PANS.  A GREAT IMPROVEMENT OVER THE FIRST VERSION OF THIS STUNNING CUT. NEW RATING: ****/*****

Audio Quality: The sound was a weak MPEG audio decoded into Dolby Pro-Logic II.  The volume was barely audible on my preferred listening level (which my wife would tell you is too loud).  I had to switch from RAW to PCM for an increase in volume and I had to turn it up several notches.  Despite my efforts, there was little panning across the surrounds and no punch on the LFE end.  Overall, lackluster and un-cinematic in the extreme.  **/***** THE SOUND (ALTHOUGH A 2.0 MPEG MIX) HAS A BIT MORE PUNCH ON THIS SECOND ATTEMPT AND IT&#039;S LOUDER.  SEE THE DESCRIPTION ABOVE FOR MORE INFO.  IT&#039;S AS GOOD AS A 2.0 CAN GET.  IN A WORD (OR TWO) -- MUCH IMPROVED.  NEW RATING: ***.5/*****

The DVD: Static menu with 18 full motion chapter stops.  

Overall Rating: ***.5/***** (not an average) I approve of this cut, given its A/V quality limitations.  Iâ€™m a stickler for A/V and perhaps Iâ€™m too harsh.  The edit is so great that I believe it should be seen by others.  IMPROVEM,ENTS IN A/V QUALITY ARE APPARENT AND APPRECIATED BY THIS SUPERFAN.  NEW RATING:  ****.5/*****

Epilogue:  This version will not replace my Donner DVDâ€¦yet.  Better A/V quality could move this fanedit into rotation whenever I spin the Supes series.  Wearneo wanted &quot;to stay true to Donner&#039;s vision. Meaning this is not an Ultimate cut of SII, but a more complete and workable Donner version.&quot;  Mission accomplished. MY NEW FAVORITE VERSION TO SPIN!

Reviewed using Sony 51â€ 16x9 RPTV with Oppo DVD player upconverting to 1080i via DVI and Onkyo 650 Watt 5.1 surround sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FanEdit Review by Molasar â€“ REVISIONS ALL CAPS</p>
<p>Title/FanEditor: Superman II: The Complete Cut â€œVersion 2.0â€ by Wearneo</p>
<p>Prologue: Superman II was my favorite sequel as a kid.  Great poster, too.  As I matured, I grew fonder of the first film.  Richard Lesterâ€™s Superman II was too hokey for me as an adult.  It was too light.  (Superman Lite?)  Anyway, I was very excited to see Richard Donnerâ€™s version when it premiered on DVD.  It treated the characters and their story with much more respect â€“ it was more serious, if thatâ€™s the right word.  Zod and his minions are more ruthless and evil.  But, I felt that reusing the â€œmake the world spin backwards and reverse timeâ€ ending was lazy.  (I donâ€™t care if it was the original intention.)  With all the new extra footage available, I knew that fans would attempt to combine both versions â€“ especially fans like me who really liked Richard Lesterâ€™s Superman II growing up.  This is the second Superman II fanedit I have seen.  Based mostly on Donnerâ€™s cut, it bills itself as the complete cut.  Is it?  Read on.</p>
<p>The Edit:  Overall, I would say that this fanedit is a complete cut.  It includes Donnerâ€™s version (warts and all) plus the â€œstep outsideâ€ line replacing the â€œfreedom of the pressâ€ line, the â€œUS Arctic Patrolâ€ deleted scene (poor quality), the â€œamnesia kissâ€ scene, the â€œelevator bullyâ€ deleted scene, and it removes the recycled reverse time ending from Superman: The Movie.  It retains the serious nature of the Donner cut and even extends the emotional punch of Clark and Loisâ€™s relationship by using Lesterâ€™s ending.  The cuts were seamless and well timed.  I saw or heard no off musical cues or jumps anywhere.  An excellent job as far as cutting. *****/***** (â€œWartsâ€ meaning the use of screen test footage, stand-ins and ADR.) STILL A FANTASTIC EDIT!</p>
<p>Image Quality:  This fanedit was a PAL-sourced edit.  It was converted to NTSC on the DVD I screened.  The image was a bit soft and jittered during panning shots at the beginning.  Colors were a bit washed out.  So, good but not great.  ***/***** USING MY ALL-REGION OPPO, THE IMAGE IS NOTICEABLY SHARPER IN THIS NEW INCARNATION AND THERE IS LESS JITTER DURING THE PANS.  A GREAT IMPROVEMENT OVER THE FIRST VERSION OF THIS STUNNING CUT. NEW RATING: ****/*****</p>
<p>Audio Quality: The sound was a weak MPEG audio decoded into Dolby Pro-Logic II.  The volume was barely audible on my preferred listening level (which my wife would tell you is too loud).  I had to switch from RAW to PCM for an increase in volume and I had to turn it up several notches.  Despite my efforts, there was little panning across the surrounds and no punch on the LFE end.  Overall, lackluster and un-cinematic in the extreme.  **/***** THE SOUND (ALTHOUGH A 2.0 MPEG MIX) HAS A BIT MORE PUNCH ON THIS SECOND ATTEMPT AND IT&#8217;S LOUDER.  SEE THE DESCRIPTION ABOVE FOR MORE INFO.  IT&#8217;S AS GOOD AS A 2.0 CAN GET.  IN A WORD (OR TWO) &#8212; MUCH IMPROVED.  NEW RATING: ***.5/*****</p>
<p>The DVD: Static menu with 18 full motion chapter stops.  </p>
<p>Overall Rating: ***.5/***** (not an average) I approve of this cut, given its A/V quality limitations.  Iâ€™m a stickler for A/V and perhaps Iâ€™m too harsh.  The edit is so great that I believe it should be seen by others.  IMPROVEM,ENTS IN A/V QUALITY ARE APPARENT AND APPRECIATED BY THIS SUPERFAN.  NEW RATING:  ****.5/*****</p>
<p>Epilogue:  This version will not replace my Donner DVDâ€¦yet.  Better A/V quality could move this fanedit into rotation whenever I spin the Supes series.  Wearneo wanted &#8220;to stay true to Donner&#8217;s vision. Meaning this is not an Ultimate cut of SII, but a more complete and workable Donner version.&#8221;  Mission accomplished. MY NEW FAVORITE VERSION TO SPIN!</p>
<p>Reviewed using Sony 51â€ 16&#215;9 RPTV with Oppo DVD player upconverting to 1080i via DVI and Onkyo 650 Watt 5.1 surround sound.</p>
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