HULK remixed by Jorge
by Jorge
What is it about? HULK HATE FILM. HULK HAVE TO WAIT HOUR BEFORE AUDIENCE SEES HULK. HULK DON’T TALK. HULK DON’T CRUSH PUNY HUMANS. STUPID BANNER GETS GIRL. HULK WILL SMASH ANG LEE IF HULK SEES ANG LEE WALKING ON STREET!
member ratings:
(11 votes, average: 7.55 out of 10, rated)
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original film name: Hulk
film studio name: Universal Studios
Original Film Released: 20 June, 2003
Fan Edit Released: 27 June, 2007
Original Runtime: 138 mins.
New Runtime: 59 mins. of pure Hulk-Out!
Amount of time Cut/Added: You do the math.
Cuts removed/added/extended:
- Lose the opening credits, backstory.
- Start with CBS report and the Banner Journals.
- Then with the Test on the frog.
- After accident, soon changes into Hulk.
- Lose the Central America ending. Now the Hulk is still running free.
- Many more cuts.
DVD – Features:
Menus
Scene Selection Menus
presented in 1:85::01
Conceptual improvements/advancements of edit over original:
- As much as I admire HULK, it didn’t lend itself to repeated viewing. Ang Lee’s film is a thinking man’s Hulk. But hey, you know, sometimes you just want kick ass action and what little action there was in HULK, it was lost admist the angst and inner turmoil of the characters. We lose the backstory, the flashbacks, tighten up the action. Starts with the Accident at the lab and try to keep the Hulk on screen as much as possible.
PROJECT TIME:
planning: no planning.
editing: A month at least… maybe more. Nearly killed me. I guess I should have planned.
sound editing: 2 days
trailer: HULK HATE PUNY TRAILERS!
DVD layout and features: About 3 hours. Hey, I’m getting good at it.
persons involved: Need you ask?
01 The Banner Journals
02 Talbot’s Warning
03 My Father, The Mad Scientist
04 In Dreams
05 The Morning After
06 My Hand is Being Forced
07 Talbot meets The Hulk
08 Hulk’s Best friends
09 Underground
10 Talbot in Charge
11 Out of Control
12 Desert Fury
13 Father and Son
14 “You Just Watch Me Go!”
15 The Adventures Continues
Marvel Comics boomed in the ’60s by giving its superheroes angst and depth. In HULK, Ang Lee takes that depth to wrenching extremes, squandering the bold action and lively fun at the heart of the material.
Strong characterizations and meaty themes can carry comics movies as well as they do domestic dramas, as Batman Begins and Spiderman 2 have shown. But that’s where director Lee and his screenwriters fall flat.
Their tale is more confounding than compelling, with inconsistent characters and gaping plot holes. They also turn what should have been the first act, their protagonist’s origin, into the entire 138-minute movie — a hulk indeed.
When approached by the studio suits to direct this effects extravaganza, Ang Lee replied “I don’t know how to make a superhero movie, but I do know how to make a Greek tragedy.” So that’s what he did. And apparently, the studio guys freaked out – because that’s exactly what he delivered. It’s almost as if Lee resented having to put the big green guy in there at all. His appearances feel almost grudging, but by the time he really gets to rip loose, nothing makes any sense.
HULK is a movie where a bloody long backstory about military science labs worked itself into the story of Bruce Banner (Eric Bana), whose new contraption in the lab goes wrong, zaps him, does something all nutty with his genes and turns him into a big green monster who goes around stomping on things. The green guy has a life of its own, but gets a King Kong sentimental streak whenever he sees Bruce’s girl Betty (Jennifer Connelly). And there’s a lot of stuff about the military trying to get the green thing under control and capture its DNA to make invincible soldiers. The bare bones of this, I don’t have a problem with. But why does it take so long to unfold when it’s so simple, and why is everyone imbuing it with significance it doesn’t have? It’s a simple mad-scientist yarn, but Lee treats it with the stark solemnity of The Ice Storm and the emotional gravity of a Shakespearean tragedy. And the direction had to have been something like, ‘Please deliver your lines as slowly as possible.’ Which resulted in every actor staring for long periods of time, and dialogue stretched to forever.
The problems “ and there are a ton of them “ lead back first to the script. There are three writers credited for the screenplay, which might account for the varying approaches to the telling of the story. First, there’s the human story, which is far too lengthy and relies heavily on flashbacks to establish and reveal key plot points. We may accept Betty’s loyalty and devotion to Bruce, but a few sparks in the relationship could have ignited some emotional excitement and made us care a little more about them. They knew pretty well how to get to the Hulk, but once they had him out, they didn’t know what to do with him, or how to motivate each scene to logically piss off the usually-reserved Banner so he could go all green and bumpy again. Some of the beats leading up to this are completely ludicrous.
Somewhere in the middle of HULK is a big, dumb, noisy movie trying desperately to get out. You get a cool helicopter battle (in which things are smashed to pieces but you hear “I’m okay!” on the radio, just to keep that ol’ PG-13 rating intact), but you’re subjected to a lot of angst in the meantime. Of course the transformation from man to hulk is the moment we have all been waiting for, as eyes contort, muscles bulge, clothes rip and the massive green monster is revealed. The effects are extraordinary and there’s no question that the ILM ‘wizards’ worked meticulously to paint 100 layers of skin for veins, blemishes, hair and winkles as well as creating over 1,000 different muscle shapes for the range of movements required by the Hulk. Co-ordinating the action with the CGI is no mean feat, although I worry that some of the scenes of the Hulk flying the air makes him look somewhat like a giant frog making gigantic leaps. Entirely computer animated, the Hulk looks as expressive and real as we can reasonably expect of an unjolly green giant. He’s also credibly integrated into live-action footage. But for all his beastial glory, the near-mute monster (he speaks two words) is underused. He’s barely seen during the first hour, and his action is often shrouded in darkness, a technique better suited to shabby effects.
His best bout is in full view: a sunlit desert scene in which he tangles with tanks, crunching and hurling them across dunes with contemptuous fury. Since writer Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby created the Hulk in 1962, such astounding feats have been the bulky bad boy’s bread and butter. Here, they’re simply the sauce for a portentous soufflé that never truly rises.
So Remixed by Jorge’s effort is to find the Beast behind the Man. Lose the backstory, tighten the action, move it along and deliver an action-packed summer thrill!! Enjoy.
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Boon’s review of HULK – REMIXED BY JORGE
The edit:
This is a 1h version of Ang Lee’s HULK. More than half of the movie went into the trashcan – and I might add: rightfully so. The original was for many people an unbearable piece of junk. Dragging, long, ridiculous, badly acted, overanimated etc.
The new version is tight and follows a clear plot: The Hulk is revealed through the failed experiment, confronted by his mad scientist father, persecuted, tortured and experimented with by the army and finally … see for yourself.
The edit works great. It is a huge improvement over the original movie, at times it is really fun to watch it, thrilling, entertaining and Jorge managed to get rid of so much of the over-animation. This Hulk rocks.
I enjoyed watching it a lot for about 50 minutes, then the finale started and once again I found myself thrown out of the movie. I just didn’t get it. All this transforming of power and objects, well, too weird for me.
The image edit quality is perfect as is the audio edit quality. One huge problem is the low volume mix of the DVD. Without surround system it is really very quiet and increasing the volume with the remote to the max unfortunately leads to white noise.
image editing: 5 of 5
audio editing: 4 of 5
entertainment: 4 of 5
effort: 5 of 5
Image quality:
The image quality is great. It’s perfect. I found the image sharp, detailed, colorful.
video quality: 5 of 5
Audio quality:
The audio is great, yet suffers from a low volume level. This is the one problem of this edit, but could easily be fixed.
audio: 3 of 5
Presentation:
The presentation is a typical Jorge DVD. Warning –> static menu, scene selection, info.
It is nice and effective. Still it could be improved a lot by adding animation, sound, extras. The cover art, disc art and slip are cool.
presentation: 4 of 5
resulting in a 4 of 5 overall rating from me. Would have been 5 of 5 if the audio was louder and the finale would have worked a bit better (which is of course subjective – as is this entire review)
Conclusion:
This is about the best what can be done to the HULK. Congratulations for creating such a cool movie from this, what many would call unsalvageable. This shows once again the great potential of fanedits and for me this replaces easily my original DVD in my shelf. For this fanedit lots and lots and lots of work was needed and it clearly shows. I am a huge Jorge fan and I tend to stay one, because he won’t let me down.
Review by killbillme — July 6, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Kurtos wrote: “Hi , I just watched HULK and this is the best the HULK will ever be. I am one of the few who liked the original but I liked this edit even more! The original didn’t have a lot of action but this one…… Just great !!
image: 5 of 5
audio : 3 of 5
Image quality:
The image quality is great.
video quality: 5 of 5
Audio quality:
The audio is great, yet suffers from a low volume level. With a dialogue enhancer switched on it wasn’t a problem.
audio: 3 of 5
Thanks for this one, 2 thumbs up!”
Review by killbillme — July 7, 2007 @ 1:21 pm
wildthing73 wrote “I checked this one out, but unfortunately no fanediting in the world can help fix this piece of sh*t. No amount of editing can make Ang Lee’s so called vision of the Hulk faithful to the comics, so it’s a lost cause.
The only scenes that actually ever worked was the Hulk vs the dogs and the Hulk vs the Tank, and since an entire film can’t be based on these two scenes… it just won’t work. Banner’s backstory and the father angle are very pathetic, unless that could be dumped and the story could magically change to be more like the Pilot episode for the TV series, then fanediting is useless.”
Review by killbillme — July 10, 2007 @ 3:07 am
bionicbob wrote: “I just finished watching HULK remixed, and all I can say is “WOW!”
This is Fan Editing at its finest. You have taken an overbloated but well-intentioned movie and cut it into a lean, mean, entertaining jolly green machine!
I am in the minority of people who actually enjoyed the original film (though even i still don’t have a clue what the ending was about….) but this fan edit is a definite improvement. It is much closer to the spirit of the source material. Lets face it, people go to see the Hulk smash things, not watch Banner’s angst.
I loved the inclusion of the theme music from the 1970s tv series! Brillant!
One question, where did the Banner Journels Voice Overs come from? Was this an extra on the dvds I missed? Or is it from an audio book version of the movie?
It might have been a nice bookend to the edit if there had been a Banner voice over during the closing…. but that is just me nitpicking. I LOVE THIS EDIT! Awesome work! “
Review by killbillme — July 10, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
My only regret is this edit isnt longer. I think bias and strong dislike of the “thinking portions” of Lee’s movie hurt this from becoming something truley different. The Banner Journals were a distinct and undeniably well crafted addition, who knows what more they could have been stretched to a beleivable 90 or some extra minutes. I want to watch MOVIES when it comes down to fanedits, not “pilot episodes” that reflect a quick need to just get the job done.
Review by Zarius — August 29, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
I am one of the few, it seems, that liked the original version of the movie. Loved, no, but liked, yes. It definitely had some great moments, though my problem was the pacing, which would slow to a crawl at times. With the excellent new narrative added to this edit, it keeps things tighter while still making everything perfectly understandable.
Despite what some have said, I personally have no problem with the length of it. So what if it seemed more like a pilot episode for a TV show than a movie if you didn’t like the movie much in the first place?
I probably would have cut quite a bit of content myself, though there are some things I definitely would have left in, such as Hulk bending the barrel on the tank until it pointed at the soldier’s face. That was a pure laugh out loud moment for me during a movie that is pretty gloomy overall.
The only negatives were the low audio and some scenes that were incredibly dark. Overall, though, I thoroughly enjoyed this edit and would recommend it to anyone, especially those who may be turned off of the movie, some of whom may not have even watched it.
Review by Ripplin — January 15, 2008 @ 11:34 pm
Great edit- the movie still isnt the Hulk they should have made but at least you dont have to wait forever to get to the good parts now. I did miss the part about Bruces childhood but can see how it slowed things down. Nice touch adding the Lonely Man theme song from the tv show- at least I dont remember it being in the original movie. The only bad thing about the audio being too low was in most of the scenes with Nick Nolte in them when he could hardly be heard. The ending was good- more like the old comics by having the Hulk living out in the desert.
Review by Rmando — May 17, 2008 @ 4:45 am
Great edit! I’ve never really been able to watch the original twice but this edit really gets a great replay value boost. Thank you!
Review by cafevincent — January 13, 2009 @ 8:20 am
Jorge, I just finished watching your edit of Hulk. I have to agree with everyone who said it is a vast improvement over the original. I was amazed at how much you were able to peel away and still create a coherent film. The backstory that is cut away is not missed at all. The pacing is superb, the movie moves much better and doesn’t slow down. I love the ending with Hulk roaming free and leaping around the desert.
What I did not feel worked as well was the voiceover narration. I understand why you included it… to help bridge the scenes and connect the story while you were hacking away so much of it. But to be honest, I don’t think you needed it. I really feel that with the scenes you chose and the way you ordered them, the story works well enough that you don’t need that v.o. to explain everything, the story still flows well enough on its own I feel. Without the narration, I also don’t think you needed the newscast opening… it could have started right out with the lab experiments.
When we first see Bruce’s father in the hospital scene, his father says something about Bruce’s last name not being Krenzler, it’s Banner. In your edit we never heard any reference before this to his name being Krenzler, as far as we know it was always Banner. You could have cut that line and started with Bruce saying “How’d you get in here?” or whatever came next.
It’s too bad you couldn’t cut even more of Nick Nolte than you did. That scene with him and Bruce before he bites the electrical wire at the end always makes me cringe, it feels like some bizarrely acted two-man stage play.
I wonder if an edit of this film could be done that completely removes the Notle character, and is just about Hulk vs the military…? Before seeing your edit I would not have thought it could be done, but after seeing what you were able to do with this film I am convinced that anything could be possible.
Anyway, very nice work and I enjoyed it very much.
Review by Russkafin — September 18, 2009 @ 4:50 pm