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		<title>By: Phlegmbot</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-12291</link>
		<dc:creator>Phlegmbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t know how you did it, but you made me miss Ang Lee&#039;s version.

Sorry, man. I know these FanEdit&#039;s require a great deal of work -- and the technical quality of this is top-notch, TRULY impressive -- but you&#039;ve completely arsed up the story...not that you had much to work with.

I&#039;m uncertain how you classify Ang Lee&#039;s version as &quot;the thinking man&#039;s Hulk&quot; -- it talked down to the audience, had characters over-explaining everything, was poorly acted and was filmed like a Mexican soap opera. 

However, what it DID do well was give us a chance to get to KNOW the characters (in part b/c it took 80 minutes to do so), something your version lacks. I felt like I turned the movie on in the middle, b/c SO much was cut out. Now, I&#039;m OK with the amount you cut, I just think you took some of the wrong scenes out. We needed some of that Betty/Bruce as kids flashback, we needed more about why they care for one another. 

In order to enjoy this cut, one must go in knowing what you&#039;ve left out...and that doesn&#039;t work. We thus have ZERO emotional connection with any characters. 

While I appreciate your attempt at brevity, and cutting-out the scenes of Betty explaining to her father how Bruce became what he is and how you cut down scenes w/Bruce&#039;s dad, and scenes in the lab...what you ended up with is a mish-mash of action scenes with no weight. Like the first 45 min. of Quantum of Solace.

As for your ending, which I found creative, I honestly wouldn&#039;t have known you were showing that he was on the run had you not mentioned it above. There seemed to be such a disconnect between the Betty/Thunderbolt Ross scene and Hulk on the run.

As others have mentioned before, you also left us w/some plot holes. I do think you&#039;re on to something with this cut. I&#039;d love to see you have another go at it, keeping in mind the need for story, setup, and character -- things many, many FanEditors somehow forget the need for.

Oh, and I really enjoyed the addition of The Lonely Man theme. 5 stars on all the sound &amp; video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know how you did it, but you made me miss Ang Lee&#8217;s version.</p>
<p>Sorry, man. I know these FanEdit&#8217;s require a great deal of work &#8212; and the technical quality of this is top-notch, TRULY impressive &#8212; but you&#8217;ve completely arsed up the story&#8230;not that you had much to work with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m uncertain how you classify Ang Lee&#8217;s version as &#8220;the thinking man&#8217;s Hulk&#8221; &#8212; it talked down to the audience, had characters over-explaining everything, was poorly acted and was filmed like a Mexican soap opera. </p>
<p>However, what it DID do well was give us a chance to get to KNOW the characters (in part b/c it took 80 minutes to do so), something your version lacks. I felt like I turned the movie on in the middle, b/c SO much was cut out. Now, I&#8217;m OK with the amount you cut, I just think you took some of the wrong scenes out. We needed some of that Betty/Bruce as kids flashback, we needed more about why they care for one another. </p>
<p>In order to enjoy this cut, one must go in knowing what you&#8217;ve left out&#8230;and that doesn&#8217;t work. We thus have ZERO emotional connection with any characters. </p>
<p>While I appreciate your attempt at brevity, and cutting-out the scenes of Betty explaining to her father how Bruce became what he is and how you cut down scenes w/Bruce&#8217;s dad, and scenes in the lab&#8230;what you ended up with is a mish-mash of action scenes with no weight. Like the first 45 min. of Quantum of Solace.</p>
<p>As for your ending, which I found creative, I honestly wouldn&#8217;t have known you were showing that he was on the run had you not mentioned it above. There seemed to be such a disconnect between the Betty/Thunderbolt Ross scene and Hulk on the run.</p>
<p>As others have mentioned before, you also left us w/some plot holes. I do think you&#8217;re on to something with this cut. I&#8217;d love to see you have another go at it, keeping in mind the need for story, setup, and character &#8212; things many, many FanEditors somehow forget the need for.</p>
<p>Oh, and I really enjoyed the addition of The Lonely Man theme. 5 stars on all the sound &amp; video.</p>
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		<title>By: Russkafin</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-10210</link>
		<dc:creator>Russkafin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorge, I just finished watching your edit of Hulk.  I have to agree with everyone who said it is a vast improvement over the original.  I was amazed at how much you were able to peel away and still create a coherent film.  The backstory that is cut away is not missed at all.  The pacing is superb, the movie moves much better and doesn&#039;t slow down.  I love the ending with Hulk roaming free and leaping around the desert.  

What I did not feel worked as well was the voiceover narration.  I understand why you included it... to help bridge the scenes and connect the story while you were hacking away so much of it.  But to be honest, I don&#039;t think you needed it.  I really feel that with the scenes you chose and the way you ordered them, the story works well enough that you don&#039;t need that v.o. to explain everything, the story still flows well enough on its own I feel.  Without the narration, I also don&#039;t think you needed the newscast opening... it could have started right out with the lab experiments.  

When we first see Bruce&#039;s father in the hospital scene, his father says something about Bruce&#039;s last name not being Krenzler, it&#039;s Banner.  In your edit we never heard any reference before this to his name being Krenzler, as far as we know it was always Banner.  You could have cut that line and started with Bruce saying &quot;How&#039;d you get in here?&quot; or whatever came next.

It&#039;s too bad you couldn&#039;t cut even more of Nick Nolte than you did.  That scene with him and Bruce before he bites the electrical wire at the end always makes me cringe, it feels like some bizarrely acted two-man stage play.  

I wonder if an edit of this film could be done that completely removes the Notle character, and is just about Hulk vs the military...?  Before seeing your edit I would not have thought it could be done, but after seeing what you were able to do with this film I am convinced that anything could be possible.  

Anyway, very nice work and I enjoyed it very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge, I just finished watching your edit of Hulk.  I have to agree with everyone who said it is a vast improvement over the original.  I was amazed at how much you were able to peel away and still create a coherent film.  The backstory that is cut away is not missed at all.  The pacing is superb, the movie moves much better and doesn&#8217;t slow down.  I love the ending with Hulk roaming free and leaping around the desert.  </p>
<p>What I did not feel worked as well was the voiceover narration.  I understand why you included it&#8230; to help bridge the scenes and connect the story while you were hacking away so much of it.  But to be honest, I don&#8217;t think you needed it.  I really feel that with the scenes you chose and the way you ordered them, the story works well enough that you don&#8217;t need that v.o. to explain everything, the story still flows well enough on its own I feel.  Without the narration, I also don&#8217;t think you needed the newscast opening&#8230; it could have started right out with the lab experiments.  </p>
<p>When we first see Bruce&#8217;s father in the hospital scene, his father says something about Bruce&#8217;s last name not being Krenzler, it&#8217;s Banner.  In your edit we never heard any reference before this to his name being Krenzler, as far as we know it was always Banner.  You could have cut that line and started with Bruce saying &#8220;How&#8217;d you get in here?&#8221; or whatever came next.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad you couldn&#8217;t cut even more of Nick Nolte than you did.  That scene with him and Bruce before he bites the electrical wire at the end always makes me cringe, it feels like some bizarrely acted two-man stage play.  </p>
<p>I wonder if an edit of this film could be done that completely removes the Notle character, and is just about Hulk vs the military&#8230;?  Before seeing your edit I would not have thought it could be done, but after seeing what you were able to do with this film I am convinced that anything could be possible.  </p>
<p>Anyway, very nice work and I enjoyed it very much.</p>
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		<title>By: cafevincent</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-9157</link>
		<dc:creator>cafevincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great edit! I&#039;ve never really been able to watch the original twice but this edit really gets a great replay value boost. Thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: Rmando</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-5144</link>
		<dc:creator>Rmando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 04:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great edit- the movie still isnt the Hulk they should have made but at least you dont have to wait forever to get to the good parts now.  I did miss the part about Bruces childhood but can see how it slowed things down.  Nice touch adding the Lonely Man theme song from the tv show- at least I dont remember it being in the original movie.  The only bad thing about the audio being too low was in most of the scenes with Nick Nolte in them when he could hardly be heard.  The ending was good- more like the old comics by having the Hulk living out in the desert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great edit- the movie still isnt the Hulk they should have made but at least you dont have to wait forever to get to the good parts now.  I did miss the part about Bruces childhood but can see how it slowed things down.  Nice touch adding the Lonely Man theme song from the tv show- at least I dont remember it being in the original movie.  The only bad thing about the audio being too low was in most of the scenes with Nick Nolte in them when he could hardly be heard.  The ending was good- more like the old comics by having the Hulk living out in the desert.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripplin</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-4932</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripplin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of the few, it seems, that liked the original version of the movie. Loved, no, but liked, yes. It definitely had some great moments, though my problem was the pacing, which would slow to a crawl at times. With the excellent new narrative added to this edit, it keeps things tighter while still making everything perfectly understandable.

Despite what some have said, I personally have no problem with the length of it. So what if it seemed more like a pilot episode for a TV show than a movie if you didn&#039;t like the movie much in the first place? ;) I probably would have cut quite a bit of content myself, though there are some things I definitely would have left in, such as Hulk bending the barrel on the tank until it pointed at the soldier&#039;s face. That was a pure laugh out loud moment for me during a movie that is pretty gloomy overall.

The only negatives were the low audio and some scenes that were incredibly dark. Overall, though, I thoroughly enjoyed this edit and would recommend it to anyone, especially those who may be turned off of the movie, some of whom may not have even watched it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of the few, it seems, that liked the original version of the movie. Loved, no, but liked, yes. It definitely had some great moments, though my problem was the pacing, which would slow to a crawl at times. With the excellent new narrative added to this edit, it keeps things tighter while still making everything perfectly understandable.</p>
<p>Despite what some have said, I personally have no problem with the length of it. So what if it seemed more like a pilot episode for a TV show than a movie if you didn&#8217;t like the movie much in the first place? <img src='http://fanedit.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I probably would have cut quite a bit of content myself, though there are some things I definitely would have left in, such as Hulk bending the barrel on the tank until it pointed at the soldier&#8217;s face. That was a pure laugh out loud moment for me during a movie that is pretty gloomy overall.</p>
<p>The only negatives were the low audio and some scenes that were incredibly dark. Overall, though, I thoroughly enjoyed this edit and would recommend it to anyone, especially those who may be turned off of the movie, some of whom may not have even watched it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zarius</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-4936</link>
		<dc:creator>Zarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only regret is this edit isnt longer. I think bias and strong dislike of the &quot;thinking portions&quot; of Lee&#039;s movie hurt this from becoming something truley different. The Banner Journals were a distinct and undeniably well crafted addition, who knows what more they could have been stretched to a beleivable 90 or some extra minutes. I want to watch MOVIES when it comes down to fanedits, not &quot;pilot episodes&quot; that reflect a quick need to just get the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only regret is this edit isnt longer. I think bias and strong dislike of the &#8220;thinking portions&#8221; of Lee&#8217;s movie hurt this from becoming something truley different. The Banner Journals were a distinct and undeniably well crafted addition, who knows what more they could have been stretched to a beleivable 90 or some extra minutes. I want to watch MOVIES when it comes down to fanedits, not &#8220;pilot episodes&#8221; that reflect a quick need to just get the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: killbillme</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-4934</link>
		<dc:creator>killbillme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bionicbob wrote: &quot;I just finished watching HULK remixed, and all I can say is &quot;WOW!&quot;

This is Fan Editing at its finest. You have taken an overbloated but well-intentioned movie and cut it into a lean, mean, entertaining jolly green machine!

I am in the minority of people who actually enjoyed the original film (though even i still don&#039;t have a clue what the ending was about....) but this fan edit is a definite improvement. It is much closer to the spirit of the source material. Lets face it, people go to see the Hulk smash things, not watch Banner&#039;s angst.

I loved the inclusion of the theme music from the 1970s tv series! Brillant!

One question, where did the Banner Journels Voice Overs come from? Was this an extra on the dvds I missed? Or is it from an audio book version of the movie?

It might have been a nice bookend to the edit if there had been a Banner voice over during the closing.... but that is just me nitpicking. I LOVE THIS EDIT! Awesome work! &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bionicbob wrote: &#8220;I just finished watching HULK remixed, and all I can say is &#8220;WOW!&#8221;</p>
<p>This is Fan Editing at its finest. You have taken an overbloated but well-intentioned movie and cut it into a lean, mean, entertaining jolly green machine!</p>
<p>I am in the minority of people who actually enjoyed the original film (though even i still don&#8217;t have a clue what the ending was about&#8230;.) but this fan edit is a definite improvement. It is much closer to the spirit of the source material. Lets face it, people go to see the Hulk smash things, not watch Banner&#8217;s angst.</p>
<p>I loved the inclusion of the theme music from the 1970s tv series! Brillant!</p>
<p>One question, where did the Banner Journels Voice Overs come from? Was this an extra on the dvds I missed? Or is it from an audio book version of the movie?</p>
<p>It might have been a nice bookend to the edit if there had been a Banner voice over during the closing&#8230;. but that is just me nitpicking. I LOVE THIS EDIT! Awesome work! &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: killbillme</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-4935</link>
		<dc:creator>killbillme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wildthing73 wrote &quot;I checked this one out, but unfortunately no fanediting in the world can help fix this piece of sh*t. No amount of editing can make Ang Lee&#039;s so called vision of the Hulk faithful to the comics, so it&#039;s a lost cause.

The only scenes that actually ever worked was the Hulk vs the dogs and the Hulk vs the Tank, and since an entire film can&#039;t be based on these two scenes... it just won&#039;t work. Banner&#039;s backstory and the father angle are very pathetic, unless that could be dumped and the story could magically change to be more like the Pilot episode for the TV series, then fanediting is useless.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wildthing73 wrote &#8220;I checked this one out, but unfortunately no fanediting in the world can help fix this piece of sh*t. No amount of editing can make Ang Lee&#8217;s so called vision of the Hulk faithful to the comics, so it&#8217;s a lost cause.</p>
<p>The only scenes that actually ever worked was the Hulk vs the dogs and the Hulk vs the Tank, and since an entire film can&#8217;t be based on these two scenes&#8230; it just won&#8217;t work. Banner&#8217;s backstory and the father angle are very pathetic, unless that could be dumped and the story could magically change to be more like the Pilot episode for the TV series, then fanediting is useless.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: killbillme</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-4933</link>
		<dc:creator>killbillme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurtos wrote: &quot;Hi , I just watched HULK and this is the best the HULK will ever be. I am one of the few who liked the original but I liked this edit even more! The original didn&#039;t have a lot of action but this one...... Just great !!


image: 5 of 5
audio : 3 of 5

Image quality:
The image quality is great.
video quality: 5 of 5


Audio quality:
The audio is great, yet suffers from a low volume level. With a dialogue enhancer switched on it wasn&#039;t a problem.
audio: 3 of 5

Thanks for this one, 2 thumbs up!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurtos wrote: &#8220;Hi , I just watched HULK and this is the best the HULK will ever be. I am one of the few who liked the original but I liked this edit even more! The original didn&#8217;t have a lot of action but this one&#8230;&#8230; Just great !!</p>
<p>image: 5 of 5<br />
audio : 3 of 5</p>
<p>Image quality:<br />
The image quality is great.<br />
video quality: 5 of 5</p>
<p>Audio quality:<br />
The audio is great, yet suffers from a low volume level. With a dialogue enhancer switched on it wasn&#8217;t a problem.<br />
audio: 3 of 5</p>
<p>Thanks for this one, 2 thumbs up!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: killbillme</title>
		<link>http://fanedit.org/280/comment-page-1/#comment-4931</link>
		<dc:creator>killbillme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boon&#039;s review of HULK - REMIXED BY JORGE


The edit:
This is a 1h version of Ang Lee&#039;s HULK. More than half of the movie went into the trashcan - and I might add: rightfully so. The original was for many people an unbearable piece of junk. Dragging, long, ridiculous, badly acted, overanimated etc.
The new version is tight and follows a clear plot: The Hulk is revealed through the failed experiment, confronted by his mad scientist father, persecuted, tortured and experimented with by the army and finally ... see for yourself.
The edit works great. It is a huge improvement over the original movie, at times it is really fun to watch it, thrilling, entertaining and Jorge managed to get rid of so much of the over-animation. This Hulk rocks.
I enjoyed watching it a lot for about 50 minutes, then the finale started and once again I found myself thrown out of the movie. I just didn&#039;t get it. All this transforming of power and objects, well, too weird for me.
The image edit quality is perfect as is the audio edit quality. One huge problem is the low volume mix of the DVD. Without surround system it is really very quiet and increasing the volume with the remote to the max unfortunately leads to white noise.

image editing: 5 of 5
audio editing: 4 of 5
entertainment: 4 of 5
effort: 5 of 5

Image quality:
The image quality is great. It&#039;s perfect. I found the image sharp, detailed, colorful.
video quality: 5 of 5


Audio quality:
The audio is great, yet suffers from a low volume level. This is the one problem of this edit, but could easily be fixed.
audio: 3 of 5


Presentation:
The presentation is a typical Jorge DVD. Warning --&gt; static menu, scene selection, info.
It is nice and effective. Still it could be improved a lot by adding animation, sound, extras. The cover art, disc art and slip are cool.
presentation: 4 of 5

resulting in a 4 of 5 overall rating from me. Would have been 5 of 5 if the audio was louder and the finale would have worked a bit better (which is of course subjective - as is this entire review)

Conclusion:
This is about the best what can be done to the HULK. Congratulations for creating such a cool movie from this, what many would call unsalvageable. This shows once again the great potential of fanedits and for me this replaces easily my original DVD in my shelf. For this fanedit lots and lots and lots of work was needed and it clearly shows. I am a huge Jorge fan and I tend to stay one, because he won&#039;t let me down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boon&#8217;s review of HULK &#8211; REMIXED BY JORGE</p>
<p>The edit:<br />
This is a 1h version of Ang Lee&#8217;s HULK. More than half of the movie went into the trashcan &#8211; and I might add: rightfully so. The original was for many people an unbearable piece of junk. Dragging, long, ridiculous, badly acted, overanimated etc.<br />
The new version is tight and follows a clear plot: The Hulk is revealed through the failed experiment, confronted by his mad scientist father, persecuted, tortured and experimented with by the army and finally &#8230; see for yourself.<br />
The edit works great. It is a huge improvement over the original movie, at times it is really fun to watch it, thrilling, entertaining and Jorge managed to get rid of so much of the over-animation. This Hulk rocks.<br />
I enjoyed watching it a lot for about 50 minutes, then the finale started and once again I found myself thrown out of the movie. I just didn&#8217;t get it. All this transforming of power and objects, well, too weird for me.<br />
The image edit quality is perfect as is the audio edit quality. One huge problem is the low volume mix of the DVD. Without surround system it is really very quiet and increasing the volume with the remote to the max unfortunately leads to white noise.</p>
<p>image editing: 5 of 5<br />
audio editing: 4 of 5<br />
entertainment: 4 of 5<br />
effort: 5 of 5</p>
<p>Image quality:<br />
The image quality is great. It&#8217;s perfect. I found the image sharp, detailed, colorful.<br />
video quality: 5 of 5</p>
<p>Audio quality:<br />
The audio is great, yet suffers from a low volume level. This is the one problem of this edit, but could easily be fixed.<br />
audio: 3 of 5</p>
<p>Presentation:<br />
The presentation is a typical Jorge DVD. Warning &#8211;&gt; static menu, scene selection, info.<br />
It is nice and effective. Still it could be improved a lot by adding animation, sound, extras. The cover art, disc art and slip are cool.<br />
presentation: 4 of 5</p>
<p>resulting in a 4 of 5 overall rating from me. Would have been 5 of 5 if the audio was louder and the finale would have worked a bit better (which is of course subjective &#8211; as is this entire review)</p>
<p>Conclusion:<br />
This is about the best what can be done to the HULK. Congratulations for creating such a cool movie from this, what many would call unsalvageable. This shows once again the great potential of fanedits and for me this replaces easily my original DVD in my shelf. For this fanedit lots and lots and lots of work was needed and it clearly shows. I am a huge Jorge fan and I tend to stay one, because he won&#8217;t let me down.</p>
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