Comments on: Face / Off: Operation Terror http://fanedit.org/3759/ The wonderful world of movies - edited by fans for fans Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:32:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: joebshmoe http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9349 joebshmoe Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:55:23 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9349 ok... i also feel i need to say that i am a HUGE HK woo fan. the killer and hard boiled are two of my ALL TIME FAVORITE movies (with the killer being my favorite of the two). it just doesn't *feel* right when he imports his techniques and over-emphasizes every damn shot for artistic impact here in face/off. ok… i also feel i need to say that i am a HUGE HK woo fan. the killer and hard boiled are two of my ALL TIME FAVORITE movies (with the killer being my favorite of the two). it just doesn’t *feel* right when he imports his techniques and over-emphasizes every damn shot for artistic impact here in face/off.

]]> By: joebshmoe http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9348 joebshmoe Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:52:28 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9348 i enjoyed all of these cuts minus one (...or two, read on...) - the flight attendant kissing scene!?!? best quote of the whole damn movie. i really can't believe this was cut. this IS over the top. but easily the only thing nicholas cage has ever done that is remotely awesome. i MUST bring this up... the process of removing nicholas cage out of any movie (or at least minimizing him) has to be one of the best ideas ever. thank you, boon, for taking on such a mission! with that being said, i think a bit more needed to be done here. this movie needs to ALSO be de-woo-ified (slow motion, doves, ridiculous dual pistol shootouts jumping out of airplanes, etc.) AND one HUGE issue for me: the whole bloody (pun!) face removal procedure needs to be changed to not look totally f**kin stupid. you can't just make a laser cut around your face and then the whole thing pops off... ridiculous. i think this could be masked (oh shit! another pun!) by simply editing the procedure in such a way that the audience assumes that we aren't seeing EVERYTHING that is happening. also, why does castor troy have bloody eyelids? nose cartilage? lips? his quick reveal to the doctor needs to go. also, i think the subplot of castor's SON needs to at least be mentioned in the film. sasha lays it on pretty thick so either her role needs to be minimized OR this element (vital?) should be present. i think that WITH the reveal of castor's son, we have a better comparison between the two men at the focal point. is the "6 years later" title card necessary? i don't think so. also, sometimes the fanedited intro and credits pull me out of a film (unlike, say infodroid's handling of the indiana jones edits) so after all that, this is OF COURSE a better movie - but not as much as i was expecting. entertainment 3/5 fanediting 4/5 video 4.5/5 audio 5/5 original 3/5 fanedit 4/5 4/5 "If I were to let you suck my tongue, would you be grateful?" i enjoyed all of these cuts minus one (…or two, read on…) – the flight attendant kissing scene!?!? best quote of the whole damn movie. i really can’t believe this was cut. this IS over the top. but easily the only thing nicholas cage has ever done that is remotely awesome.

i MUST bring this up… the process of removing nicholas cage out of any movie (or at least minimizing him) has to be one of the best ideas ever. thank you, boon, for taking on such a mission!

with that being said, i think a bit more needed to be done here. this movie needs to ALSO be de-woo-ified (slow motion, doves, ridiculous dual pistol shootouts jumping out of airplanes, etc.) AND one HUGE issue for me: the whole bloody (pun!) face removal procedure needs to be changed to not look totally f**kin stupid. you can’t just make a laser cut around your face and then the whole thing pops off… ridiculous. i think this could be masked (oh shit! another pun!) by simply editing the procedure in such a way that the audience assumes that we aren’t seeing EVERYTHING that is happening. also, why does castor troy have bloody eyelids? nose cartilage? lips? his quick reveal to the doctor needs to go.

also, i think the subplot of castor’s SON needs to at least be mentioned in the film. sasha lays it on pretty thick so either her role needs to be minimized OR this element (vital?) should be present. i think that WITH the reveal of castor’s son, we have a better comparison between the two men at the focal point.

is the “6 years later” title card necessary? i don’t think so. also, sometimes the fanedited intro and credits pull me out of a film (unlike, say infodroid’s handling of the indiana jones edits)

so after all that, this is OF COURSE a better movie – but not as much as i was expecting.

entertainment 3/5
fanediting 4/5
video 4.5/5
audio 5/5
original 3/5
fanedit 4/5

4/5

“If I were to let you suck my tongue, would you be grateful?”

]]> By: Rock Savage http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9139 Rock Savage Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:41:10 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9139 Yes of Course. Still to your credit I got to the end, which I did not do with the original. Also my rating of 4/5 attests to the great work you did with the FanEdit. I watch all your work. I simply had the optimistic impression that you could redeem this movie for me. I was a huge John Woo Fan before he came to America. Yes of Course. Still to your credit I got to the end, which I did not do with the original. Also my rating of 4/5 attests to the great work you did with the FanEdit.
I watch all your work. I simply had the optimistic impression that you could redeem this movie for me. I was a huge John Woo Fan before he came to America.

]]> By: boon23 http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9138 boon23 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:22:47 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9138 funny comment. It was created for people, who liked the original movie. I am sorry if you had to endure it again, but I stated that quite clearly, Still thanks for the review and the rating, Next time though you should read the info before downloading and watching it. Might save you from wasting your time or being disappointed. funny comment.
It was created for people, who liked the original movie. I am sorry if you had to endure it again, but I stated that quite clearly, Still thanks for the review and the rating, Next time though you should read the info before downloading and watching it. Might save you from wasting your time or being disappointed.

]]> By: Rock Savage http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9137 Rock Savage Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:00:45 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9137 I did not like Face/Off. It was a huge disappointment considering the excellent work John Woo had been doing in Hong Kong with films like A Better Tomorrow (1986), Hard-Boiled (1992) and the classic The Killer (1989). I remember walking out of the cinema during the boat chase. So CBB has made a FanEdit of Face/Off called Operation Terror. Due to the high standard of CBB FanEdits, I was interested to see it this movie could be improved. Unfortunately this Fanedit cannot correct the embedded stupidity of this film. CBB has toned down some painful acting and ridiculous direction but the performances are still well over the top as is the super-hero action. Yes, the movie is more tolerable because there is less of it to watch but I think more could have been pruned. Entertainment 2 - Editing 4 - Audio 5 - DVD - 5 4/5 I did not like Face/Off. It was a huge disappointment considering the excellent work John Woo had been doing in Hong Kong with films like A Better Tomorrow (1986), Hard-Boiled (1992) and the classic The Killer (1989).

I remember walking out of the cinema during the boat chase.

So CBB has made a FanEdit of Face/Off called Operation Terror. Due to the high standard of CBB FanEdits, I was interested to see it this movie could be improved.

Unfortunately this Fanedit cannot correct the embedded stupidity of this film. CBB has toned down some painful acting and ridiculous direction but the performances are still well over the top as is the super-hero action. Yes, the movie is more tolerable because there is less of it to watch but I think more could have been pruned.

Entertainment 2 – Editing 4 – Audio 5 – DVD – 5

4/5

]]> By: searcher http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9059 searcher Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:14:37 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9059 Excellent work Boon as alway's, you quite right to pull Johnfowles over his comment, how anyone can comment without watching is ridiculous, and the quality is as you say excellent. A great fan edit, well done Boon and congrats on number 30. 5/5 from me. Excellent work Boon as alway’s, you quite right to pull Johnfowles over his comment, how anyone can comment without watching is ridiculous, and the quality is
as you say excellent. A great fan edit, well done Boon and congrats on number 30. 5/5 from me.

]]> By: JohnFowles http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9058 JohnFowles Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:06:27 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9058 boon23, I'm really sorry that we had began with certain misunderstandings. I never doubted nor said that you know what you do. In fact, from what I see till now, I really like your edits. From the begining, here and in Blade III, I said that I respected and appreciated the work done, evidently a work of love. Do not doubt that I will download this edit, will burn it, will print the cover and the DVD and use glossy paper for the cover and a Verbatim for the movie, because I keep in cases all my DVD's. I don't watch a movie from my PC. So, don't understand why you take it personally when I never crticized your work, just said that the size of the output chosen wasn't the most convenient for ithe quality of the end product, something that its quite different. I do use some of this programs just for my encodes, among them DVD Rebuilder (a legal copy from Jdobbs), and I still believe and stick to my words about Blade. But, I repeat, never criticizing all the dedication and skill from your part. But I can see this is a delicate issue not very well received, so I'll never bring it out again. And my apologies if maybe my bad English (not my native language) made you think I was questioning your skills Regards boon23, I’m really sorry that we had began with certain misunderstandings. I never doubted nor said that you know what you do. In fact, from what I see till now, I really like your edits. From the begining, here and in Blade III, I said that I respected and appreciated the work done, evidently a work of love. Do not doubt that I will download this edit, will burn it, will print the cover and the DVD and use glossy paper for the cover and a Verbatim for the movie, because I keep in cases all my DVD’s. I don’t watch a movie from my PC. So, don’t understand why you take it personally when I never crticized your work, just said that the size of the output chosen wasn’t the most convenient for ithe quality of the end product, something that its quite different. I do use some of this programs just for my encodes, among them DVD Rebuilder (a legal copy from Jdobbs), and I still believe and stick to my words about Blade. But, I repeat, never criticizing all the dedication and skill from your part.
But I can see this is a delicate issue not very well received, so I’ll never bring it out again. And my apologies if maybe my bad English (not my native language) made you think I was questioning your skills

Regards

]]> By: boon23 http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9055 boon23 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:54:50 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9055 John, please, before complaining over the quality of something, could you at least watch it? Because some people know their tools and know how to properly release something. I don't create DL DVDs because SL DVD is the common norm for fanedits. Now I would appreciate it, if you could stop the complaining and enjoy what is presented to you for free and in a good quality. It took me a long time to create this and I would really prefer it, if the movie was discussed and no strange assumptions were made about the technical quality, before you even watched it. This is also true for my other releases. John, please, before complaining over the quality of something, could you at least watch it? Because some people know their tools and know how to properly release something. I don’t create DL DVDs because SL DVD is the common norm for fanedits. Now I would appreciate it, if you could stop the complaining and enjoy what is presented to you for free and in a good quality. It took me a long time to create this and I would really prefer it, if the movie was discussed and no strange assumptions were made about the technical quality, before you even watched it. This is also true for my other releases.

]]> By: JohnFowles http://fanedit.org/3759/comment-page-1/#comment-9054 JohnFowles Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:37:11 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=3759#comment-9054 I'd really love to have this edit, but with a movie run of 2 hours and those extras, I'm not sure the quality will be all that good. Is it possible to make an edit for a DL DVD? As I said earlier in the comment for Blade III, all these works of love should deserve the best quality, and that is almost always a DL edition. I cannot understand that after all the work you dedicate (I mean all the fan editors), you end up with a DVD5, sometimes for 3 hours of movie with extras. IMO, it's not understandable. Again my thanx and appreciation of your work and hope that you do a DL edition. Best regards :) I’d really love to have this edit, but with a movie run of 2 hours and those extras, I’m not sure the quality will be all that good. Is it possible to make an edit for a DL DVD?

As I said earlier in the comment for Blade III, all these works of love should deserve the best quality, and that is almost always a DL edition. I cannot understand that after all the work you dedicate (I mean all the fan editors), you end up with a DVD5, sometimes for 3 hours of movie with extras. IMO, it’s not understandable.

Again my thanx and appreciation of your work and hope that you do a DL edition.

Best regards :)

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