Comments on: Red Sun: Leone-ised http://fanedit.org/712/ The wonderful world of movies - edited by fans for fans Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:32:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: spelledaren http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-11024 spelledaren Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:33:28 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-11024 I think this one deserves a higher rating than it's current average, Mollo is showing off his sense of style here and it is quite an improvement. Some excellent editing for sure. I think I gave this an 8, but I'm not certain, as it was some time ago. Recommended watching! I think this one deserves a higher rating than it’s current average, Mollo is showing off his sense of style here and it is quite an improvement. Some excellent editing for sure. I think I gave this an 8, but I’m not certain, as it was some time ago. Recommended watching!

]]> By: jokersmailbag http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-9511 jokersmailbag Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:40:34 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-9511 That said, Mollo's edit is certainly more entertaining than the original. Unfortunately, the original is faulted (IMO) beyond any attempt to make it very good at all. It's sad, really, because the premise of the film is quite cool and Mollo's thought behind the edit (making it more like a Leone film) is an excellent one. And in the hands of someone more capable, like Leone, it could have been a really kick ass movie. Imagine Clint Eastwood and Mifune with Leone directing! And if any old Western could benefit from a remake ala '3:10 to Yuma', it is this one. Mollo has improved it a bit with new sfx and some new score. His stated intention was to give it "a bit" of the Leone feel, and he has done so. But it's really not enough to save the picture. Mollo is a very good (and award winning, lest we forget!) editor. But even with competent fan editing certain films might never rise above a certain level. For me, this is the case here. That said, Mollo’s edit is certainly more entertaining than the original. Unfortunately, the original is faulted (IMO) beyond any attempt to make it very good at all. It’s sad, really, because the premise of the film is quite cool and Mollo’s thought behind the edit (making it more like a Leone film) is an excellent one. And in the hands of someone more capable, like Leone, it could have been a really kick ass movie. Imagine Clint Eastwood and Mifune with Leone directing! And if any old Western could benefit from a remake ala ‘3:10 to Yuma’, it is this one.

Mollo has improved it a bit with new sfx and some new score. His stated intention was to give it “a bit” of the Leone feel, and he has done so. But it’s really not enough to save the picture.

Mollo is a very good (and award winning, lest we forget!) editor. But even with competent fan editing certain films might never rise above a certain level. For me, this is the case here.

]]> By: Monroville http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-9088 Monroville Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:17:26 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-9088 re: http://fanedit.org/712/ There is something odd with the picture framing: when watching the comparison clips, the Leoneized image is 2.35:1. When the movie plays, it is 16:9 and is stretched vertically. I went to the above image (with the sword under Bronson's neck at 23:37 on the dvd timeframe) and compared the comparison scene's image above and the movie scene's image and the movie is vertically stretched (not by much, but look at the japanese man on the right and when you pause the dvd, open this page and compare both images). Is there any way to release a version 2 that properly sets the image (to 1.85:1 or 2.35;1)? I've also noted that the dvd image is a little brighter and maybe washed out as a result, again in comparison to the images above. re: http://fanedit.org/712/

There is something odd with the picture framing: when watching the comparison clips, the Leoneized image is 2.35:1. When the movie plays, it is 16:9 and is stretched vertically. I went to the above image (with the sword under Bronson’s neck at 23:37 on the dvd timeframe) and compared the comparison scene’s image above and the movie scene’s image and the movie is vertically stretched (not by much, but look at the japanese man on the right and when you pause the dvd, open this page and compare both images). Is there any way to release a version 2 that properly sets the image (to 1.85:1 or 2.35;1)?

I’ve also noted that the dvd image is a little brighter and maybe washed out as a result, again in comparison to the images above.

]]> By: podub http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-9078 podub Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:51:53 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-9078 wow, i'm really excited you made this. i like this movie, although certain parts are too corny, like bronsons jokes n some of the music. it really needs to be leonized! great idea. thanks again and i hope you take a crack at some other westerns! PS: i currently dl'n your D-DAy flick, cant wait! pcout! wow, i’m really excited you made this. i like this movie, although certain parts are too corny, like bronsons jokes n some of the music. it really needs to be leonized! great idea.

thanks again and i hope you take a crack at some other westerns!

PS: i currently dl’n your D-DAy flick, cant wait!

pcout!

]]> By: oulkas http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-9001 oulkas Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:09:20 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-9001 super film.great movie. super film.great movie.

]]> By: ColdNorway http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8966 ColdNorway Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:43:27 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8966 I bought the original DVD some time ago,but sadly it just ended as a faded memory in my ever growing pile of unwatched DVD`s.I remember the movie from a rental VHS-tape in my kid years,and I was left with an impression of having seen a western with really silly music score borderline making the movie feel like a comedic western.After hearing about this new fan edit with a more befitting western music score I felt the urge to see the movie again. I must say that Im quite impressed with what Mollo did with this movie,the new music actually made it a more serious movie.And the new action sounds packs a serious punch.Whenever I feel like seeing this movie again I will forever watch this fan edit,my original DVD will never be used.Kudos! I bought the original DVD some time ago,but sadly it just ended as a faded memory in my ever growing pile of unwatched DVD`s.I remember the movie from a rental VHS-tape in my kid years,and I was left with an impression of having seen a western with really silly music score borderline making the movie feel like a comedic western.After hearing about this new fan edit with a more befitting western music score I felt the urge to see the movie again.

I must say that Im quite impressed with what Mollo did with this movie,the new music actually made it a more serious movie.And the new action sounds packs a serious punch.Whenever I feel like seeing this movie again I will forever watch this fan edit,my original DVD will never be used.Kudos!

]]> By: Monroville http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8895 Monroville Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:30:42 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8895 From the clip on Youtube, this looks to be quite an excellent edit. I think if there was one complaint is that if this were to truly be a Leone-ized cut, it would have a LOT more Morricone-esque music and definitely have more action oriented music. It sounds as if most of the movie is music free. Regardless, I will post a further comment after downloading. From the clip on Youtube, this looks to be quite an excellent edit. I think if there was one complaint is that if this were to truly be a Leone-ized cut, it would have a LOT more Morricone-esque music and definitely have more action oriented music. It sounds as if most of the movie is music free. Regardless, I will post a further comment after downloading.

]]> By: Rock Savage http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8883 Rock Savage Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:05:38 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8883 Comment by Amok - Oct 23 2008 I watched it and while I agree that this movie can not be made "great", Mollo did an excellent job at giving it a little update. I loved all his changes and would have welcomed more editing. Bronson's jokes where appropriate at the beginning of the movie, but I would have expected his character to become a little more serious towards the end of the movie. The general idea is excellent however, and there are a LOT of (potentially) great spaghetti westerns that could benefit with a little Mollo treatment. Comment by Amok – Oct 23 2008

I watched it and while I agree that this movie can not be made “great”, Mollo did an excellent job at giving it a little update. I loved all his changes and would have welcomed more editing. Bronson’s jokes where appropriate at the beginning of the movie, but I would have expected his character to become a little more serious towards the end of the movie.

The general idea is excellent however, and there are a LOT of (potentially) great spaghetti westerns that could benefit with a little Mollo treatment.

]]> By: SLASHFACE http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8635 SLASHFACE Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:38:57 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8635 That just seems odd. Never had anything like this happen before... That just seems odd. Never had anything like this happen before…

]]> By: Rock Savage http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8632 Rock Savage Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:39:13 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8632 Thanks Slash, I checked those timings and have found no errors. The raw video files work perfectly so it could be the burn process. Thanks Slash, I checked those timings and have found no errors. The raw video files work perfectly so it could be the burn process.

]]> By: SLASHFACE http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8631 SLASHFACE Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:05:31 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8631 These are the ones I noticed 38:22, 56:56 and 1:38:17. Also, I am assuming this is 1.85:1. While the scene comparison lookes framed properly, the actual film doesn't look quite 1.85:1, maybe more like 1.78:1? These are the ones I noticed 38:22, 56:56 and 1:38:17. Also, I am assuming this is 1.85:1. While the scene comparison lookes framed properly, the actual film doesn’t look quite 1.85:1, maybe more like 1.78:1?

]]> By: Rock Savage http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8612 Rock Savage Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:24:22 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8612 If anyone else notices any glitches please report it, as it seems my NTSC conversion plays correctly. As for 'one near the end looks like a very bad edit.' maybe Slash, you could give a time as to when this occurs to see if this is indeed a problem with the NTSC DVD? Thank You If anyone else notices any glitches please report it, as it seems my NTSC conversion plays correctly. As for ‘one near the end looks like a very bad edit.’ maybe Slash, you could give a time as to when this occurs to see if this is indeed a problem with the NTSC DVD? Thank You

]]> By: SLASHFACE http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8611 SLASHFACE Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:20:01 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8611 Well, there are several glitches in the film, I'm guessing from the PAL conversion? Plus one near the end that looks like a very bad edit. Well, there are several glitches in the film, I’m guessing from the PAL conversion? Plus one near the end that looks like a very bad edit.

]]> By: Rock Savage http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8607 Rock Savage Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:28:36 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8607 Blofeld wrote August 22 2008 It's amazing how by changing the music in the early scenes makes it all seem more tense. Nice job. Blofeld wrote August 22 2008

It’s amazing how by changing the music in the early scenes makes it all seem more tense. Nice job.

]]> By: Rock Savage http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8605 Rock Savage Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:03:40 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8605 The repeating shot of the hooker is a bonus feature! The film was tested, as was the AVI version, so there should be no errors....? The original comparison short is included in the DVD. The repeating shot of the hooker is a bonus feature!

The film was tested, as was the AVI version, so there should be no errors….? The original comparison short is included in the DVD.

]]> By: SLASHFACE http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8603 SLASHFACE Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:47:53 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8603 Nice work, but noticed a few video errors during playback. Also the scene in the brothel, the shot of Kuroda's girl disrobing repeats itself. Other than that, good work. Would have liked to have the trailer and original scenes included on the DVD also. Nice work, but noticed a few video errors during playback. Also the scene in the brothel, the shot of Kuroda’s girl disrobing repeats itself. Other than that, good work. Would have liked to have the trailer and original scenes included on the DVD also.

]]> By: bleujayone http://fanedit.org/712/comment-page-1/#comment-8563 bleujayone Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:19:14 +0000 http://fanedit.org/?p=712#comment-8563 I really like the idea behind this concept and the example you posted on YouTube are compelling enough to show this will work not just for "Red Sun" but perhaps enough to invigorate many other Westerns. I look forward to viewing your work in its entirety. Do you think you could give the same "Leone-ised" treatment to "Two Mules for Sister Sara"? It already stars Clint Eastwood and is scored by Ennio Morricone so it's already 2/3's of the way there. I really like the idea behind this concept and the example you posted on YouTube are compelling enough to show this will work not just for “Red Sun” but perhaps enough to invigorate many other Westerns. I look forward to viewing your work in its entirety.

Do you think you could give the same “Leone-ised” treatment to “Two Mules for Sister Sara”? It already stars Clint Eastwood and is scored by Ennio Morricone so it’s already 2/3’s of the way there.

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