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The Lord of the Rings: Book V – The War of the Ring

a TRUE FANEDIT by Kerr

The fifth of a six-part edit made to bring Peter Jackson’s adaptations of “The Lord of the Rings” as close as possible to the original book by J.R.R. Tolkien, this covers the first half of “The Return of the King”.

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Original film name The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Film studio name New Line Cinema
Film release date 2003
Original runtime 251 minutes (special extended edition)
Fanedit release date March 2010
New runtime 85 minutes
Amount of time cut/added 165 minutes cut / 1 minute added

FULL TITLE:
J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings: Book V – The War of the Ring

INTENTION:
To separate Peter Jackson’s “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy into six parts that adhere as closely as possible to the six books of J.R.R. Tolkien’s “The Lord of the Rings”. This is done by both restructuring the films to match the narrative structure found in Tolkien’s book, and by removing as much as possible of the material that has no basis in Tolkien’s vision of Middle-Earth. For Book V, this has involved removing all of Frodo and Sam’s story from the film, as well as recutting and rearranging many of the remaining scenes.

CUTLIST:

  • - The film begins with the lighting of the beacons. As the camera flies over the mountains – “The Return of the King”. As in the book, Denethor has already lit the beacons before Gandalf and Pippin reach the city.
  • - “Book V – The War of the Ring” title added over the final shot of the ride through Minas Tirith.
  • - Cut to Gandalf riding with Pippin to Minas Tirith. We follow their storyline until otherwise noted.
  • - Pippin does not recognize the White Tree, since he never saw it in the Palantir.
  • - Cut Gandalf telling Pippin not to tell Denethor anything about Boromir, Aragorn, Frodo or anything at all. Parts of this was in the book, but I feel it works better without any of it.
  • - Parts of the audience with Denethor has been rearranged to match the book. Pippin pledging service to Denethor now comes a bit later, and thus feels less like a spur-of-the-moment-decision. Some closeups have been cut or rearranged.
  • - Some small cuts made to Denethor’s and Gandalf’s dialogue. Gandalf does not ask where Gondor’s armies are, since Denethor is fully aware of the danger in this edit, having already lit the beacons.
  • - Cut Pippin’s “Well… Minas Tirith. Very impressive. So, where are we off to next?” and Gandalf’s reply.
  • - Gandalf does not start coughing when smoking on the balcony. Sure, smoking is bad for your health, but LotR is not the right place to point that out.
  • - The flashback to Weathertop has been cut.
  • - The lighting of the Minas Morgul beacon has been reworked so that we only see it from the gondorians’ point of view. Some of the dialogue preceding it has also been rearranged.
  • - Cut to Aragorn spotting the beacon. We now follow his storyline.
  • - The orcs march into Osgiliath, and we cut to Aragorn spotting the beacon. We now follow his storyline.
  • - Theoden does not hesitate when hearing that Gondor calls for aid, he replies immediately that “Rohan will answer”.
  • - Cut Theoden’s VO as the Rohirrim prepare to leave Edoras.
  • - Cut Gimli interrupting Aragorn’s vision of the King of the Dead.
  • - Removed any mention of Arwen dying. That subplot never made any sense.
  • - Changed the elvish subtitles to the translation used by Tolkien: “I gave hope to the Dúnedain, I have kept no hope for myself”.
  • - Cut Aragorn and co. sneaking off in the middle of the night.
  • - Cut Legolas claiming that Isildur was “the last king of Gondor”. He wasn’t.
  • - No Gimli goofiness in the Paths of the Dead
  • - The Paths of the Dead sequence has been recut to make the army of the dead less threatening. The sequence ends like in the theatrical version, with Aragorn’s “What say you?”
  • - Cut to the Rohirrim riding off to war.
  • - Cut to Osgiliath. We follow the Gondor storyline.
  • - The orc army crossing the river is only seen from the gondorians’ POV.
  • - Gothmog’s speech about the age of the orcs being at hand has been cut. I hate Gothmog as portrayed in the films.
  • - Cut Gandalf’s line “Foreseen, and done nothing.” In this edit, Denethor lit the beacons.
  • - Tried to lessen Denethor’s craziness when meeting with Faramir. Denethor doesn’t see a vision of Boromir, and doesn’t stumble down the stairs.
  • - Cut Pippin fumbling the words when swearing allegiance to Denethor.
  • - Cut Pippin kissing Denethor’s ring.
  • - The Witchking telling Gothmog to “Send forth all legions” has been moved to a later point. It now comes after Faramir’s charge, and is followed by all the shots of the orc army marching towards the city.
  • - Gothmog’s presence during the siege has been lessened. In this edit, he only appears during the Grond sequence, and has a small appearance later during the charge of the Rohirriom. All other appearances have been cut.
  • - Gandalf does not knock down Denethor at the siege. Why does PJ’s version of Gandalf has to be such a violent brute?
  • - Cut Pippin’s apperance in the siege until the “Pyre of Denethor”-storyline.
  • - Cut the archers firing at the towers before Gandalf tells them not to.
  • - The Siege of Gondor has been rearranged. After Grond is brought forth, we exclusively follow Pippin’s storyline until Denethor locks him out, after which we return to Gandalf at the gate.
  • - Gandalf vs. the Witch-king has been altered. The WK does not break Gandalf’s staff, and Gandalf does not fall from his horse. As in the book, they never get the chance to square off. Also, the fact that the WK defeats Gandalf the White is completely ludicrous – remember that Aragorn fought off both the Witch-king and several other Ringwraiths back in FotR.
  • - As the WK hears the horns of Rohan and flies off, we cut to Merry and Eowyn at the Rohirrim camp.
  • - Removed intercutting of orcs preparing for battle with Theoden’s speech. It makes no sense for the Rohirrim to reveal themselves to the orcs and give them lots of time to prepare for the cavalry charge, so in this edit, we do not see the orcs responding until the Rohirrim are already charging.
  • - Some over-the-top stuff has been cut from the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, which plays in its entirety without cutting back to Minas Tirith.
  • - The character of the Black Serpent, leader of the Haradrim, has been cut. Yes, he was in the book, but I didn’t really like him, and I felt the Pelennor battle had to be shortened slightly, so out he went.
  • - Cut the Witchkings’ “Diiiieeeee…… Noooooooow…..”. Merry now stabs him immediately after his line “No man can kill me.”
  • - Eowyn says farewell to Theoden immediately after slaying the WK, after which Aragorn and co. arrive.
  • - Legolas vs. oliphaunt has been cut.
  • - The battle of the Pelennor Fields is won, and we cut to Denethor pouring oil over himself and Faramir. Again, a strange timeline change, but true to the book.
  • - Gandalf does not employ violence against Denethor, who stays on the pyre for the entire scene (he does not run across the length of Minas Tirith just to get a visually pleasing death scene). “Thus passes Denethor, son of Ecthelion” – and we see the sun shine on Minas Tirith once more.
  • - Gimli does not suggest that they keep the dead around for a while longer.
  • - I used the theatrical version of Pippin finding Merry, which now occurs before Eomer finds Eowyn.
  • - Several cuts have been made to the Last Debate. Gandalf does not say that Frodo has passed from his sight (as he earlier claimed that he had “no news of Frodo”), and all of Gimli’s and Legolas’ lines have been cut.
  • - When Aragorn challenges Sauron in the Palantir, he does not see the floating eyeball on top of Barad-Dur, but the armored Sauron holding a Palantir (taken from later on in the scene).
  • - I always felt that Aragorn should win the challenge, so it ends with him presenting Anduril, backed by the Gondor theme. No visions of Arwen dying, no shattered Evenstar pendant.
  • - Some cuts made to the Mouth of Sauron to make him less nasty.
  • - Some cuts made to the pre-battle sequence – the orcs do not completely surround our heroes.
  • - Cut Aragorn being tempted by Sauron.
  • - We see the battle in front of the Black Gate without cutting to Frodo and Sam. “The eagles are coming!” shouts Pippin, and we fade out: “End of Book V”.
  • “To battle!” they say, and we cut to the Rohirrim arriving at Pelennor. This timeline change might seem odd, but I’m going by the book, where the beginning of Chapter 5 – The Ride of the Rohirrim takes places before the horns are heard at the end of Chapter 6. We now follow the Rohirrim without cutting back to what’s going on inside the city (which will come later, like in the book).

changes for the DVD:

  • – Cut Pippin’s smile on the balcony
  • – The Paths of the Dead sequence has been extended slightly
  • – Cut Faramir and co. letting some of the orcs run past them
  • – The transition between the two parts of the Osgiliath battle has been changed
  • – Shortened Gothmog’s dialogue before Grond is brought forth
  • – Cut shots of women and children after the city has been breached
  • – Removed the Merry/Eowyn scene before the Rohirrim’s arrival
  • – The Battle of the Pelennor Fields has been recut
  • – Cut the King of the Dead’s line “Release us!”



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14 Review »

  1. Four near perfect votes so far astound me, as this is the first time I feel that Kerr did disappoint me.

    Without going into great detail I had some issues with the flow of some scenes, there were a few sound parts I didn’t like, and all too many times I didn’t agree with how Kerr chose to present the scenes, something that previously has worked very well for me with his edits.

    Some excellent moments of editing, but too few to make me happy.

    6 / 10 for me.

    Review by spelledaren — September 1, 2009 @ 4:34 pm

  2. I’ve tried to produce my own set of book cuts but gave up because I wasn’t happy with it.

    This is stellar work, and I think it’s about as good as one could hope for with the goal and source material. I am thrilled at how you conquered the Faramir problem and dealt with the parting of Frodo and Sam. Congratulations, and I cannot wait to have all six on NTSC DVD on my shelf with three backup copies behind each.

    Review by Kirkafur — September 7, 2009 @ 12:56 pm

  3. ^^Oops, wrong film, but still.

    Review by Kirkafur — September 7, 2009 @ 12:57 pm

  4. I have seen this cut, and after having seen the four previous releases, i think they all are near perfect, and far better than the comercial films, or extended cuts. Sad sometimes th flow is not soft as one would desire, but they are as best as possible, and flashes of genius.

    Only one thing about this Book V, on the negative side: when Rohirrim arive at Pellenor… i think it would be much much much better leaving the cut from de extended edition, when Witch King “hears” the sound of the horns, and we move to the battefield to see them. I know the reason to do this, but in the end, the scene that follows (with Eowyn and Merry) doesn’t add anything remarckable. I think this is the only thing i would change from this edit, and from the five books.

    I’m waiting for Book VI !!!!!

    Congratulations, Kerr.

    Review by Fast Eddie — September 9, 2009 @ 1:39 pm

  5. There is too much missing.

    Review by walls83 — September 22, 2009 @ 4:51 pm

  6. I am enjoying this series and cannot wait for the last book to be completed.

    Well done Kerr for all your hard work!

    Review by Shimoda — September 26, 2009 @ 11:05 pm

  7. Kerr,
    You sir are a genius! Peter jackson has nothing on you. You have fixed this story, and brought it to where it needed to be. How Tolkein imagined it. I dont think PJ understood that it was a tolkein novel. Not his own!. Now if someone could find a way to cut Elijah Wood and put a new actor in his place then this would a true masterpiece. Please hurry on book VI. I personally cant wait. Thank you i give this and books I – IV a perfect 10

    Thank You,

    Review by bishop27 — October 12, 2009 @ 1:41 am

  8. Oh Yeah!! KERR you ought to seriously try to get on the editing cast of the hobbit. so you can make sure that does not get ruined also by that greasy heeb PJ

    Review by bishop27 — October 12, 2009 @ 1:44 am

  9. I have not seen this yet… but I just HAD to say something based on one of the commentaries here: It is Tolkien’s novel, yes… but it also is PJ VISION and INTERPRETATION but more importantly ADAPTATION of Tolkien’s work… This story wasn’t “needed to be” this way, because the timelines are all messed up in the books (and yes, it works as a book, but as a film… comercially, it doesn’t) PJ did an AMAZING job with these films, people should be thanking him not the other way arround.

    KERR, I’m not saying anithing about you and what you’ve done here… in fact, I’m very curious about this fanedits of yours and will watch them ASAP. =)

    Have a great week!

    Review by TaiPanJoe — October 26, 2009 @ 8:49 pm

  10. Thank you for changing the awkward transition from the scene with the Witch King vs. Gandalf to the arrival of Rohan for the DVD edition. I have no reservations whatsoever of giving this the highest possible rating.

    It must be tiring to hear me keep babbling, but thank you for these DVDs, sir!

    Review by Kirkafur — November 8, 2009 @ 1:52 am

  11. Kerr is dedicated and innovative, and always ready to listen to whatever critism is brought forth. With this one he listened to what many of us had to say and went in trying to better everything that was possible. In many aspects he has removed any problems I had with the scenes. I wouldn’t agree with everything, but would like to point out that my first review on this page doesn’t apply to the dvd. I would give this one 8 / 10, and I’d like to applaud Kerr once more for being such a hard working editor.

    Excellent work. Looking forward to the conclusion.

    Review by spelledaren — December 8, 2009 @ 6:39 pm

  12. Once again (for the second last time), great work. Perfect editing, etc, etc… ;) Looking forward to the last book. It has been a fun and interesting ride. I’m going to give this one 9/10.

    Review by Ripplin — April 28, 2010 @ 8:24 am

  13. Book_V.part2.rar for the AVI file is showing as offline>File not found in JDownloader

    Review by eksif — July 21, 2010 @ 5:25 am

  14. Tremendous.

    Such a new experience to see the lead-up and siege of Gondor assembled without any cuts away to Sam and Frodo’s story. I didn’t see the orginal cut of Book 5 before Kerr made some changes, but as this DVD stands now, most sequences gels together very nicely indeed. 10/10.

    Review by mullholland665 — July 23, 2010 @ 7:30 am

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