Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan – Hybrid Cut
an EXTENDED EDITION by Captain Khajiit
A best-of-both-worlds hybrid of STAR TREK 2 between the almost-perfect theatrical cut and the intriguing director’s cut member ratings: |
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INTENTION:
to create a best-of-both-worlds hybrid between the almost-perfect theatrical cut and the intriguing director’s cut
CUTLIST:
- Used the expanded conversation between Kirk and McCoy about the spectacles and the clearer alternate director’s cut take of “administer Retinax V” rather than the theatrical “recommend Retinax V.”
- The scene with the Ceti eels is uncut.
- Used the first half of the director’s cut engine room conversation between Kirk and Midshipman Preston in the Enterprise engine room, in which Scotty reveals that Preston is his nephew. As I read the book before seeing the film, I always felt Scotty’s extreme emotional distress at Preston’s death lacked sufficient explanation; and while the dialogue in this scene is not the best scripted in the world, it is better than nothing. The second half of the scene is the theatrical take with the close up of the cadets and the better line delivery at the end.
- The longer version of the scene in which Chekov informs Dr. Marcus that Reliant has new orders is retained with its more logical expanded dialogue.
- The theatrical take of the Regula One scientists arguing about Starfleet’s “new orders” arrival has been used. This version creates more suspense, and we uncover the fate of the scientists as the Enterprise crew do.
- Included the theatrical version of Spock and McCoy’s argument about Genesis, as the director’s cut additions were unnecessary and dampened the fiery intensity of the exchange. Moreover, the line delivery was not as good as it could have been.
- The scene in which Midshipman Preston dies in sickbay has been recut to omit the director’s cut expanded dialogue and follow the theatrical version, which flowed better with the rest of the film; however, Preston still dies in a close-up shot like the director’s cut.
- Removed the scene in which Kirk informs Spock that David is his son, so that the music does not loop here. This short scene was uninspiring in its implementation, broke the flow of the sequence in which it was included, and we know enough of Kirk’s close friendship with Spock to surmise that he informed him at some point.
- For the same reason, I removed Saavik’s question on the bridge and Spock’s response about the human ego. Again, the music no longer loops here.
CREDITS:
thanks to Boon for authoring the disc and Throwgncpr for advice on cover art
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(6 votes, average: 9.00 out of 10, rated)
I typically stay away from extended cut/versions, but I couldn’t resist D/L-ing this one and watching it. I was too young to go to ST: The Motion Picture when it came out, so Wrath of Khan was my first real exposure to Star Trek when I was young. Loved this movie ever since.
I feel I must say this before my review starts, I have never seen the theatrical version on DVD, only the Director’s Cut. So I have no basis to compare the two versions and this Hybrid Cut.
First, I absolutely loved the dvd menu for this cut. It is nothing spectacular, but for some reason I watched the entire menu scene until it looped back to the start. I’m not sure why I liked it so much, but the scene choice was very smart. A vibrant, colorful scene.
I am usually the minority opinion here, because I don’t really care about the menus, or special features/extras or cover art. I only care about the movie edit itself. I D/L the movies and store them in my network drives and streamed them to my TV or computers – I don’t burn any of them to dvd etc. So all the extra stuff is not that important to me. But for some reason, I really liked the dvd menu of this edit.
Video quality is perfect – as good as my store bought Director’s Cut dvd. All the cuts/integrated scenes seemed flawless to me.
As far as the audio goes, I rate it lower. I may be wrong on my next point, but it seemed to me that the audio synch was just slightly behind the video for the first 7 min 12 secs. I may not be right, so I will gladly retract this part of my review if others don’t notice it. It didn’t seem drastically off, but only slightly. I would greatly appreciate it if other watchers of this excellent cut look at it for me. Other than that, the music, effects etc were perfect.
Overall, well worth the D/L.
Review by flyboy707 — April 7, 2010 @ 5:46 am
Just wanted to add a few comments on this cut. Firstly, I agree that the menu looks very nice. Simple, but very well done. I kept a close eye on the sync in the first 10 minutes, and I could find no sync problems at all. Everything seemed dead on to me. I can usually detect sync errors, as they usually drive me nuts. If there is any sync issue, it must be very very small. I’d love to hear if anybody else had sync issues also.
The picture quality is excellent. Many fanedits tend to look like they had gone through a generation or two by the time they end up on dvd, but this looks as clean as the actual retail disc. Great job. The sound is also excellent. As far as the editing goes, it seemed seamless. It was very nice to see these alternate takes on some of these scenes. The only negative thing I can comment on is during the engine room conversation, where half of one cut was used, then the last part of the other cut was cut in. Maybe it’s because I was listening so closely to it, but I did notice a slight change in background rumble after the switch between takes, like the engine room noise was a bit different between takes. It certainly wasn’t a jarring cut by any means, in fact barely worth noting at all. The editing was perfect, in fact, it was just something that cannot be helped because of the slight difference in background rumble between shots. (It may also be that the same thing happens in the theatrical and/or director’s cuts, and I just never noticed before, so if that’s the case, I apologize for even mentioning it).
Overall, a very good cut, with seamless editing, superb picture quality, and a slightly different take on a classic film. Great job, and I highly recommend it to all fans.
Review by oknihcap — April 10, 2010 @ 10:45 pm
I would like to thank both of you for your kind comments. They are very much appreciated.
@flyboy707 I have checked the sync issue for you, and it seems fine to me. There are actually no cuts until later in the film, so no real reasons for the audio to be out of sync at the start.. If you are streaming the file, that might explain the discrepancy. Please try burning the edit to disc and see if that solves your problem. I hope this helps!
@oknihcap Thanks for your comments. Would you kindly consider rating the edit to go along with the review?
The rumble in the engine room scene is probably the sound of the elevator descending. It always ends in that place, and there is in fact no audio transition until slightly after it has finished its descent. Thanks for tactfully pointing this out though. It gave the chance to explain myself.
Review by Captain Khajiit — April 11, 2010 @ 6:06 pm
REVIEW UPDATE:
Captain Khajiit, you were right, the audio sync problem I noticed was due to a streaming error. I transfered the edit from my network to my desktop harddrive and then rewatched the first 12 minutes of your edit. No sync issues at all – Audio is perfect now.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I decided it was time to buy a new router/server; mine was 6 years old afterall and had given me issues in the past.
Now I can rate this edit as 5 out of 5 for BOTH video and audio quality. Well done!
Review by flyboy707 — April 11, 2010 @ 7:18 pm
Just wanted to update my comments with a rating. I gave it a 10! because I really think that this is the quality that all fanedits should shoot for. Even though this may not have been the most complex fanedit out in terms of editing requirements, the cuts themselves are done seamlessly, and the audio and video maintain a very high level of quality. Many times, I will find a nicely done fanedit, but am torn because in the process of editing the quality has been reduced, sometimes to close to unwatchable condition. That makes it difficult to adopt as a regularly watched version. I would have no problem popping this in a watching it any time I’m in the mood for some Khan action. And the menu itself, as was mentioned, is very nicely done, completing the well-done package. Great job!
Review by oknihcap — April 21, 2010 @ 4:13 pm
Short and sweet comment: There are other people around here that are bigger experts on [b]The Wrath of Khan[/b] than I am, so I’ll leave it to them to decide if this cut is better than either official one or not. But, since the edit is seamlessly executed, both the audio and video quality are as flawless as any commercial DVD and better than many, and the presentation of the disc is very well made with a particularly nice main menu, I see absolutely no reason to not give this edition 10 stars out of 10. Great job!
Review by DwightFry78 — June 9, 2010 @ 5:48 am
This review is based on my opinions and my viewing experience. Nothing is meant as an attack. Spoiler warning.
Audio: sounded great on my 2.0 system. Absolutely no complaints.
10 out of 10
Video: Looks the same as my 2disc dvd, again no complaints.
10 out of 10
EDITING: Everything was executed perfectly, nothing was distracting, perfect!
10 out of 10
ENTERTAINMENT:
*I love the expanded KIRK’S glasses sequence, glad you kept it.
*Uncut Ceit eel, Right on.
*The engine room scene is perfect this way!
*Keeping the long version of CHEKOV/CARROLL, good choice.
*Theatrical version of the scientists arguing, good choice.
*Theatrical version of SPOCK/McCOY argument, again good choice.
*PRESTON’S death is great.
*I wish you kept the scene of KIRK informing SPOCK about DAVID being KIRK’S son and just used a different que.
*Again I wish you kept the scene of SPOCK telling SAAVIK about the human ego and used a different que.
8 out of 10
OVERALL: 9.25 out of 10
SIDE NOTES: This is THE go to version of The Wrath Of Khan. if you can’t decide on the theatrical cut or the directors cut, then watch this version, you will not regret it.
Sincerely. Rogue.
Review by Rogue-theX — August 28, 2010 @ 5:36 pm