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August 15, 2012    
 
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Original Release Date:
2003
Original Running Time:
109
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88
Time Cut:
21

Brief Synopsis:
This is a serious take on TERMINATOR 3 to be more in the tradition of its prequels. Lots of cheesy and unnecessary elements were removed as well as all the references to dates and ages that contradict the previous two films.
Intention:
To reduce the cheese, and eliminate all the references to dates and ages that contradict the previous two films.
Additional Notes:
For the real nerds, be on the lookout for all the easter eggs added to the film. There are several, and they all refer to the previous Terminator films, or other James Cameron projects.
Release Information
  • NTSC DVD-5
  • AVI/MKV
Cuts and Additions:
- New opening titles.
- Removed opening nuke and John’s first V.O. Film proper starts during John’s nightmare.
- Joined both parts of John on motorbike together and reworked V.O. to eliminate age reference and to simplify his narration.
- Removed the TX’s, “I like this car.”
- Added “Uploading Virus” readout to TX’s HUD. The so-called supervirus that pops up out of nowhere does not exist in this version. The only virus is the one she delivers. My line of reasoning is that future-Skynet sends her back with a virus that cannot be stopped by conventional means, thus instigating the Military’s activation of Skynet in the here and now.
- Removed TX’s Inflate-O-Boobs(TM).
- Removed Kate and Scott shopping scene. The latter half of this sequence (after General Brewster gets off the phone with Kate) is moved way back in the film. It would make little sense for General Brewster to be concerned about a supervirus that was only uploaded a moment earlier.
- Removed T-850′s encounter with the bouncer outside the Desert Star.
- Removed zoom into ‘Ladies Night’ sign and sped-up shot of T-850 reacting to new song starting.
- Altered so that T-850 doesn’t blink when hit in the face with a glove. (Yes, I realise that Terminators blink, but it makes him seem scarier that he doesn’t need to when hit. Mostly I just didn’t like Arnie’s ‘startled old man’ expression.)
- Removed T-850 talking into stripper’s hand, and the rest of the scene with the star-glasses. He just breaks the stripper’s hand and we go straight to the TX at Jim’s Burgers. Replaced song during entire Desert Star sequence.
- Removed the TX scanning Jose Barrera’s iris. As Reese said, “Most of the records were lost during the war.” I’m not a fan of Skynet’s files being this detailed. It’s bad enough she has John’s DNA records on file.
- Fixed the incorrect spelling of “BARRERA” on the TX’s heads-up-display. Now her readout matches his name-tag.
- After the TX kills Jose, we cut back to the T-850 stealing a truck. Removed watch on top of visor, synchronizing time, and T-850 contemplating the sunglasses. He just picks them up and puts them straight on without looking at them for ages.
- Removed newscast about supervirus seen during Bill Anderon’s party. Bill and his girlfriend are now watching a movie instead. For one, I needed the virus mentions all moved towards the end of the film, and two ... who watches the news at a party?
- Fixed TX blinking when she shoots Bill.
- Removed all references Kate makes to Mike Kripke’s basement. Also removed Kate mentioning them being in the 8th grade when John disappeared. As with the John’s age, this is incorrect. We don’t need to know how John knows Kate, it’s enough that he just does. In my mind, Nikki Cox was Kate Brewster in T2. She had red hair and certainly knew John back then.
- Removed TX scanning Betsy’s blood and speaking to herself about it.
- Removed some of Kate’s whimpering when hiding from the TX. The TX is so close, she should really hear it.
- Removed TX’s visible reaction to John’s blood ID. I don’t have a problem with Terminators showing reactions to things, but this one is a little over the top. Even if she were human, I’d have probably cut it.
- Removed Kate dropping her keys.
- Removed T-850′s line to Kate, “I lied.”
- Removed all the talking between John and the T-850 when first meeting in the hallway. John comes across like an idiot. “Are you here to kill me?” No, son if he were you’d be dead before you got the question out. Now, the Terminator strides up and just grabs John right away.
- Removed T-850′s line, “Keep moving!” I’ve tried to make the Terminator as taciturn as possible, removing any lines that really aren’t needed.
- Removed T-850′s, “Get out of here! Now!”
- Moved the paramedics finding the T-850 to a little later. Helps minimise the fact that they just stand next to him for a long time doing nothing. Also removed them trying to move him. It’s a stupid moment, and since when are paramedics in the habit of just dragging accident victims around without knowing what has happened to them?
- Removed T-850′s line to the motorcycle cop, “Get off!” It’s obviously looped after the fact, and it’s not needed.
- Removed John hitting the inflatable toy in the front yard during the car chase. “Boing”?? I could have just taken the sound effect out, but taking the shots out altogether actually made the sequence flow better.
- Re-instated an unused piece of score during the crane chase.
- Removed reverse-motion shot of Fire Truck heading straight for the T-850. It’s too obviously in reverse due to the exhaust fumes.
- Removed TX smirking to herself after shaking the T-850.
- Removed T-850′s to the firemen, “I’ll drive” and “Get out.” The ‘Get out’ is another obvious loop job.
- Removed TX’s double-take when seeing the T-850 in the firetruck.
- Removed the Terminator’s, “Excuse me.” to the TX. Substituted a metallic clink, (the axe hitting the side of the crane) which is what gets the TX’s attention instead.
- Removed “Move over” when the Terminator climbs into the driver’s seat of Kate’s truck. Another looped line.
- Removed all of John’s idiotic, “Do you even remember me?” talk.
- Removed, “I am unable to comply” when Kate tells the Terminator to drop dead.
- Removed John’s question, “Where are you taking me?” and the T-850′s reply, “To a safe location.”
- Removed the T-850′s claim that, “Judgement Day is inevitable.”
- Removed, “I’m an obsolete design.”
- Removed all the talk about the TX being an anti-Terminator Terminator, and “I am not shitting you.”
- Removed T-850′s second, “Relax!”
- Replaced the song playing in the ampm store. I cannot stand “Dat Funky Man” or whatever it’s called.
- Fixed jump-cut when TV is shown switching channels.
- Removed T-850 leaving the store. No 'Talk to the hand' at all. We can just assume he paid for the items. A few moments later, we will see the clerk calling the police due to Kate’s screaming. Wouldn’t he have been a bit more shaken, and already calling the cops if a huge dude in leather had just robbed him moments earlier?
- Removed all the revisited talk of Mike Kripke’s basement, and John’s idea that he and Kate were destined to meet.
- Erased the tire-iron from the back of the vet truck as it speeds down the road. The T-850 already removed it and threw it away.
- Removed the TX killing Scott, and the cops coming to the door. The scene sucks, and this way it’s a mild surprise when the TX kills the cops a few minutes later.
- Removed the dates on Sarah’s plaque. Both dates are completely wrong.
- Removed John saying that Sarah “...fought for three years” against leukaemia. Now he just says the more ambiguous, “She fought long enough to make sure the world didn’t end.”
- Removed John telling the T-850 that it was the closest thing he ever had to a father. John just comes across as stupid, as he knows full well that this is not the Terminator that protected him in 1995.
- Removed the T-850′s, “My mission is to protect you” to Kate.
- Removed T-850 spitting out the bullet. Gee, sure is a lucky shot that Kate managed to shoot a bullet into his mouth while it was closed.
- Removed all of John’s, “Why me?” stuff, and the T-850 'convincing' him to fight.
- Moved driving scene with Scott and the cops to after Kate meets Silberman. Reframed one shot to cover the fact that the TX’s arm isn’t behind the seat where it should be. Trimmed out one shot of the driver’s terrible ‘pain’ acting, and removed shot of TX’s hand slowly taking the steering wheel.
- Trimmed out the last few moments of Silberman’s ramblings. Way to run the joke into the ground, folks.
- Removed T-850′s casualty readout after shooting at the SWAT team.
- Removed the T-850 telling John that Kate will be his wife in the future.
- In the graveyard, the TX stupidly reverts back to its default form for no reason before trying to kill Kate. To try to help justify this, I’ve moved up the shot of John and the Terminator approaching in the hearse. It’s not much of an excuse, but at least it’s something. Sort of like the TX knows it’s busted, so there’s no need to keep up the ruse.
- Removed shot of the hearse turning and losing a hubcap. It loses the same hubcap again a moment later.
- Removed the last few frames of the TX jumping onto the hearse. There was a moment of 'float' to the cable work there.
- Removed Kate screaming, “Do something!” at the Terminator.
- Erased visible safety cables and effects markers from two shots of the TX on top of the hearse.
- Removed the T-850′s deadpan line, “We need a new vehicle.” And John and Kate’s dumbfounded stares. A very sitcom-esque moment.
- Removed the hearse’s door falling off the hinges when the Terminator opens it. More sitcom “hilarity”.
- After Kate has her little cry, we cut to General Brewster talking about the super-virus. Then we come back to John and the T-850 discussing the TX’s hit-list. Removed John asking about his future marriage to Kate.
- Removed John theorising about fate and he and Kate getting together back before T2.
- Removed all the business about, “You cannot self-terminate.”
- Removed line about Skynet assuming control over global communications. How can it when it hasn’t been brought on-line yet? The virus is the one affecting out communications.
- Removed Kate finding out about her marriage to John.
- Removed small-scale flying H/K and endoskeleton at CRS.
- Removed final mention of Mike Kripke’s basement, and T-850′s line about levity.
- Removed line about Skynet operating at 60 teraflops per second. The ‘PS’ in teraflops already stands for ‘per second’ so it’d be an awfully stupid thing for a technician to say.
- Removed “She’ll be back.”
- Removed John’s line, “Skynet is the virus!”
- Removed General Brewster’s line about Pandora’s box. It’s very trite, and I prefer that the shot focuses on Kate’s reaction instead of his rambling.
- Removed the Terminator telling John and Kate to run when the TX shows up. They should know to run just fine without being told to all the damn time.
- Removed the TX’s head spinning all the way around.
- Removed a few frames from when the T-850 steps on the TX’s head. The original shot had a little reverse motion in it, and looked silly.
- Removed the TX turning her upper body all the way around.
- Removed the TX stomping the T-850′s head off. It’s stupid that it would go back on fine with no effort, and some of the CG looks really crummy. She injects her nanobots while he is still reeling from the electrical shock.
- Removed John and Kate versus the small flying H/K.
- Removed Kate’s, “Just die, you bitch!” and a few frames at the end of the scene when you can see someone else at the end of the tunnel.
- Removed the T-850 putting his head back on.
- Removed, “You can’t kill a human, you said so yourself!” The T-850 never said this.
- When the Terminator is smashing the truck, removed a few shots that ruin the continuity.
- Removed both shots of the plane with the wrong call letters on the side.
- Removed, “I’m back.”
- Removed a bunch of the TX’s roaring and screaming. I couldn’t get all of it out without it being ridiculously choppy, but I snipped as much as I felt I could.
- Removed Kate’s suggestion to just let the bomb go off. She’s awfully quick to embrace suicide.
- Slightly different ending, features no V.O. from John about the virus/Skynet, alternate musical cue, and a different final shot of the film.
- Shortened end credits and replaced music. Score only, no songs.
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Overall rating 
 
9.2
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.4  (13)
Visual Editing 
 
9.6  (13)
Audio Editing 
 
9.8  (12)
Narrative 
 
8.2  (10)
Enjoyment 
 
9.4  (71)
All of the technical aspects of this edit were actually really impressive, but I felt a tad disappointed with the narrative decisions made. While the new narrative choices weren't hard to follow, they just tended to not be as engaging as the original I felt.

The fact that we know less about what happens and/or has happened between John and Kate takes away from the level of engagement for these characters. On the whole, the decision to remove most of the cheesier elements was a good decision, but it leaves the film feeling a little sterile and bland. On the other hand I really liked some of the smaller inclusions such as the final shot, the new music during the stripper scene (which was a great callback I thought), and the editing of the television scene during the party.

Overall this edit was a little disappointing since I'd heard good things about it, and I'm a little torn over whether it's an improvement over the original and whether I would recommend this fanedit for Terminator fans. Having said that all of the technical aspects were near faultless and my only qualms were with the changes to the story and mythology of Terminator 3.
Overall rating 
 
6.6
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.0
Visual Editing 
 
8.0
Audio Editing 
 
10.0
Narrative 
 
7.0
Enjoyment 
 
5.0
Reviewed by seanuz October 23, 2013
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All of the technical aspects of this edit were actually really impressive, but I felt a tad disappointed with the narrative decisions made. While the new narrative choices weren't hard to follow, they just tended to not be as engaging as the original I felt.

The fact that we know less about what happens and/or has happened between John and Kate takes away from the level of engagement for these characters. On the whole, the decision to remove most of the cheesier elements was a good decision, but it leaves the film feeling a little sterile and bland. On the other hand I really liked some of the smaller inclusions such as the final shot, the new music during the stripper scene (which was a great callback I thought), and the editing of the television scene during the party.

Overall this edit was a little disappointing since I'd heard good things about it, and I'm a little torn over whether it's an improvement over the original and whether I would recommend this fanedit for Terminator fans. Having said that all of the technical aspects were near faultless and my only qualms were with the changes to the story and mythology of Terminator 3.

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unbelievable what the editor did here.

you took a shitnugget and turned into an actual watchable movie, a terminator movie nontheless.

truth be told - something is still missing from this movie, what no fanedit can fix - heart.
but you fixed all the god aweful, stupid shit that was in the original.

i would have never called it, that T3 could be more then a flyswarmed turd, but i bow down to you.
Overall rating 
 
8.4
Audio/Video Quality 
 
8.0
Visual Editing 
 
9.0
Audio Editing 
 
9.0
Narrative 
 
9.0
Enjoyment 
 
8.0
Reviewed by eigenlaut April 15, 2013
Last updated: April 15, 2013
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unbelievable what the editor did here.

you took a shitnugget and turned into an actual watchable movie, a terminator movie nontheless.

truth be told - something is still missing from this movie, what no fanedit can fix - heart.
but you fixed all the god aweful, stupid shit that was in the original.

i would have never called it, that T3 could be more then a flyswarmed turd, but i bow down to you.

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I rather liked terminator 3 when I first saw it at the cinema though the humor like with any film of this type just seems out of place on repeated viewings. This edit successfully removals all unnecessary humor and in doing so gives us a terminator who only talks when he has something to say instead of spitting out one liners every 5 mins.

I do however rather like the story to Terminator 3 so I can't help but feel too much has been cut / changed to this edit. Whether it's the fault of the actual film I just feel the character of John Connor isn't that important any more as the focus is more on the Brewster family. My preference would have been for the film to remain in tack but with the bad jokes removed. However none of this spoilt my overall enjoyment towards the edit (I've seen this 3 times now) and as others have said it before me this really is a classic fanedit.
Overall rating 
 
8.2
Audio/Video Quality 
 
10.0
Visual Editing 
 
9.0
Audio Editing 
 
9.0
Narrative 
 
7.0
Enjoyment 
 
8.0
Reviewed by leeroy January 13, 2013
Last updated: January 12, 2014
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I rather liked terminator 3 when I first saw it at the cinema though the humor like with any film of this type just seems out of place on repeated viewings. This edit successfully removals all unnecessary humor and in doing so gives us a terminator who only talks when he has something to say instead of spitting out one liners every 5 mins.

I do however rather like the story to Terminator 3 so I can't help but feel too much has been cut / changed to this edit. Whether it's the fault of the actual film I just feel the character of John Connor isn't that important any more as the focus is more on the Brewster family. My preference would have been for the film to remain in tack but with the bad jokes removed. However none of this spoilt my overall enjoyment towards the edit (I've seen this 3 times now) and as others have said it before me this really is a classic fanedit.

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Let's get this straight, everything after Terminator 2 varies in disgusting quality from bad to absolute disgrace. Peg me in the camp that hates Terminator 3 with the passion that only Star Wars prequels haters have. Terminator 2 is one my favorite movies of all time. Absolutely stupendous story, ending, emotional attachment, and metaphors that T-3 just craps all over. I have been on an active stance of pretending that T3 and T4 never were made.

That's the mindset I came into this movie with. After hearing all the incredible reviews. I decided to give it a shot. The first shot I've given it after seeing it in theaters. It's been a long time.

In terms of editing, Uncanny Antman is an amazing talent. Visually most of the cuts were done quite well. The Audio changes fit the film. And everything is done expertly. There's a couple of visual cuts that were jarring that we noticed:
1. The cut from "Talk to the Hand" to the next scene was a little jarring, but maybe it's because I remember the goofy crap that happens afterwards.
2. The cut from "I like your gun," same thing.

Another thing UA achieves is fantastic break neck pacing, no more of the cartoon aspects that irked me so, and a more somber tone to the whole film (the ending is really more poignant because of it). What's also done well is John Connor's character, well, not arc, but moment at the end fits. He's a sissy boy that's been through all this crap, and now he needs to step up, and he realizes it, the whole movie is about him realizing it. UA did his job, he made a really bad movie BETTER.

But even with all that, UA could not overcome the absolutely fundamental crap, backwards ass flaws of this movie. The dialogue is awful, a lot of the more awful dialogue has been cut, but what's here is still not very good. The whole point of the story is ridiculous, the destiny is predetermined aspect pisses me off to no end. The arc of John Connor is STILL not done very well. And all of that, represents the biggest flaw of the entire movie, it's emotionless, there's no heart, no tension, no anything. The terminator isn't scary, she's supposed to be frightening, am I supposed to care about John, why, he's a disgrace, am I supposed to care about Arnold's T850, because I don't. And all it does is just try and recreate the setpieces and absolute MAGIC and THRILL of T-2. Instead it just comes off as empty and rushing me from one lame action sequence to the next.

The flaws are not UA's fault, not by a long shot, UA made a crappy movie watchable. It fits into the tone of the trilogy, Terminator 3 used to be a walking talking cartoon and now it's an action setpiece popcorn movie. Still doesn't have substance.

In the end, I realize that I'm not sure if any fanedit will make an awful movie, good. I think all it will make is watchable. No offense to UA, but I'm going to go back to pretending that Terminator ended with T-2.

Original Rating of Crap Ass Movie: 4
New Rating: 6
Overall rating 
 
7.5
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.0
Visual Editing 
 
10.0
Audio Editing 
 
10.0
Narrative 
 
8.0
Enjoyment 
 
6.0
Reviewed by elnino14 November 29, 2012
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Let's get this straight, everything after Terminator 2 varies in disgusting quality from bad to absolute disgrace. Peg me in the camp that hates Terminator 3 with the passion that only Star Wars prequels haters have. Terminator 2 is one my favorite movies of all time. Absolutely stupendous story, ending, emotional attachment, and metaphors that T-3 just craps all over. I have been on an active stance of pretending that T3 and T4 never were made.

That's the mindset I came into this movie with. After hearing all the incredible reviews. I decided to give it a shot. The first shot I've given it after seeing it in theaters. It's been a long time.

In terms of editing, Uncanny Antman is an amazing talent. Visually most of the cuts were done quite well. The Audio changes fit the film. And everything is done expertly. There's a couple of visual cuts that were jarring that we noticed:
1. The cut from "Talk to the Hand" to the next scene was a little jarring, but maybe it's because I remember the goofy crap that happens afterwards.
2. The cut from "I like your gun," same thing.

Another thing UA achieves is fantastic break neck pacing, no more of the cartoon aspects that irked me so, and a more somber tone to the whole film (the ending is really more poignant because of it). What's also done well is John Connor's character, well, not arc, but moment at the end fits. He's a sissy boy that's been through all this crap, and now he needs to step up, and he realizes it, the whole movie is about him realizing it. UA did his job, he made a really bad movie BETTER.

But even with all that, UA could not overcome the absolutely fundamental crap, backwards ass flaws of this movie. The dialogue is awful, a lot of the more awful dialogue has been cut, but what's here is still not very good. The whole point of the story is ridiculous, the destiny is predetermined aspect pisses me off to no end. The arc of John Connor is STILL not done very well. And all of that, represents the biggest flaw of the entire movie, it's emotionless, there's no heart, no tension, no anything. The terminator isn't scary, she's supposed to be frightening, am I supposed to care about John, why, he's a disgrace, am I supposed to care about Arnold's T850, because I don't. And all it does is just try and recreate the setpieces and absolute MAGIC and THRILL of T-2. Instead it just comes off as empty and rushing me from one lame action sequence to the next.

The flaws are not UA's fault, not by a long shot, UA made a crappy movie watchable. It fits into the tone of the trilogy, Terminator 3 used to be a walking talking cartoon and now it's an action setpiece popcorn movie. Still doesn't have substance.

In the end, I realize that I'm not sure if any fanedit will make an awful movie, good. I think all it will make is watchable. No offense to UA, but I'm going to go back to pretending that Terminator ended with T-2.

Original Rating of Crap Ass Movie: 4
New Rating: 6

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I am one of the few who actually enjoyed Terminator 3 in its original form. Definitely, it had some failings but realistically, so did the previous two films in their original form as well.

Removing the love story between Kate and John, to me, removes a key, integral component of the film. Removing things like Ahnold putting on the male stripper's sunglasses, getting keys from the viser, Terminatrix grabbing Ahnold's crotch in the bathroom fight, Terminatrix looking at herself in the mirror, and a couple one-liners: great. Removing Kate as the focus for John's future is a mistake in my opinion. Doing that, causes the story to fall flat. Both prior Terminators had humans finding or re-discovering love to make them remember their humanity.

Video and audio quality is superb but the story is just empty when Kate is stripped of her love interest for John, which includes the discussion about kissing for the first time and meeting at the party. These two things also drastically remove the idea of fate from the film, which was the largest appeal for me. All great mythologies--Terminator being no exception--have that aspect and it is necessary to make John Connor transform into a "great military leader."

Aside from that, the pacing is excellent as the action just keeps coming. I would recommend making another version with Kate re-integrated.

I'm sure many will disagree as evidenced by the numerous rave reviews but I find the movie very lacking without that key component.
Overall rating 
 
5.6
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.0
Visual Editing 
 
9.0
Audio Editing 
 
9.0
Narrative 
 
2.0
Enjoyment 
 
5.0
Reviewed by daov2a October 16, 2012
Last updated: October 16, 2012
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I am one of the few who actually enjoyed Terminator 3 in its original form. Definitely, it had some failings but realistically, so did the previous two films in their original form as well.

Removing the love story between Kate and John, to me, removes a key, integral component of the film. Removing things like Ahnold putting on the male stripper's sunglasses, getting keys from the viser, Terminatrix grabbing Ahnold's crotch in the bathroom fight, Terminatrix looking at herself in the mirror, and a couple one-liners: great. Removing Kate as the focus for John's future is a mistake in my opinion. Doing that, causes the story to fall flat. Both prior Terminators had humans finding or re-discovering love to make them remember their humanity.

Video and audio quality is superb but the story is just empty when Kate is stripped of her love interest for John, which includes the discussion about kissing for the first time and meeting at the party. These two things also drastically remove the idea of fate from the film, which was the largest appeal for me. All great mythologies--Terminator being no exception--have that aspect and it is necessary to make John Connor transform into a "great military leader."

Aside from that, the pacing is excellent as the action just keeps coming. I would recommend making another version with Kate re-integrated.

I'm sure many will disagree as evidenced by the numerous rave reviews but I find the movie very lacking without that key component.

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