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August 14, 2012    
 
8.7 (14)
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Faneditor Name:
Tagline:
The KIRK P.O.V. Cut
Original Movie Title:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1982
Original Running Time:
116
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
87
Time Cut:
26
Time Added:
3

Brief Synopsis:
A new take on the most beloved installment of the original cast Star Trek movies; Wrath of Khan. By introducing classic TOS sound and music cues and restructuring the movie to be told from James T. Kirk’s point of View, we are given a fresh look at a classic.
Intention:
The intent of this edit is NOT to create a better movie. Wrath of Khan already rocks!!! Instead, I set out to create an alternative, and hopefully, entertaining viewing experience.

Wrath of Khan is probably hands down the best, and most popular, of the Original Cast Trek Movies. It has stood the test of time fairly well, with few weak/bad scenes and very little fat. I have often described it as a lean, mean, economical story machine.

But after many, many viewings over the years, the thing I always found the most fascinating about the movie is the two main characters of KIRK and KHAN never actually physically meet through the entire movie.

And that got me thinking, could a person still tell the same story by completely (or as much as possible) removing KHAN from the movie? Thus, a Fan Edit was born!
Additional Notes:
THE SECOND FIVE YEAR MISSION BEGINS… Sins of the Past return to haunt Admiral James T. Kirk… A minor training cruise turns into a desperate fight for survival as an old enemy from Kirk’s past returns to extract his revenge. Entangled in this web of vengeance is an inexperienced new crew, a long lost son and a startling new scientific creation. A creation, that in the wrong hands, could become the most powerful weapon in the galaxy! Relive the adventure from an entirely new perspective!
Release Information
NTSC DVD-5
Editing Details:
With the exception of the Opening Teaser, I have attempted to recut the remaining movie from the Point of View of Admiral James T. Kirk. Thus, the viewer experiences the adventure as Kirk does. The audience only learns details as Kirk learns them. Furthermore, the audience only sees or hears KHAN when KIRK is present.

Along with flashback clips from the Original Series, TOS music/FX and a few other surprises, PERDITION’S FLAMES will be a fresh and enjoyable viewing experience for the Trek Fan who has watched WRATH OF KHAN on more occasions than they like to admit.
Cuts and Additions:
– created new opening teaser introducing Reliant, Genesis, Terrell, Chekov and our mystery villian
– modified TOS opening credits from V’GER edit
– cut all Regula One scenes featuring Carol and David Marcus
– cut Khan introduction and torture of Terrell and Chekov
– cut all Reliant/Khan scenes
– cut all scenes featuring Spock in Engine Room
– added flashback to Space Seed episode
– restructured Spock’s funeral scene
– modified new closing credits from V’GER edit
– added TOS music and sound f/x
– plus one or two other surprises!
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Overall rating 
 
8.7
Audio/Video Quality 
 
7.5  (6)
Visual Editing 
 
8.8  (6)
Audio Editing 
 
8.8  (4)
Narrative 
 
9.0  (5)
Enjoyment 
 
8.8  (14)
The bad:
DVD is not anamorphic, Image looks funny on widescreen TVs. (I ended up ripping the DVD, cropping the image, and re-encoding a disc of my own.)

The good:
Apparently, everyone loves wrath of Khan. It's supposed to be the film that saved star trek. I was born after the classic Trek era. I grew up with TNG. The first Star Trek movie I remember seeing in theatres was First Contact.

Compared to First Contact, WOK is slow and boring (with a glaring continuity error right in the opening). It's not a bad film, it has a lot of redeeming qualities. There is a lot of dramatic irony, the plot is good, the characters are dynamic. It makes for an excellent study in technically proficient storytelling, but it was never a lot of fun for me. (Also, Ricardo Montalbán is the biggest Ham in the universe, right?)

This edit... well it made the film fun. The story moves more quickly, there is mystery and tension. Shatner seems like a great actor. What little we se of Khan makes him tolerable (even enjoyable). Also, the continuity problems have been amended.


On the whole, a fantastic edit. My go to copy of WOK.
Overall rating 
 
8.6
Audio/Video Quality 
 
7.0
Visual Editing 
 
8.0
Audio Editing 
 
8.0
Narrative 
 
9.0
Enjoyment 
 
9.0
Reviewed by ajroach42 April 29, 2013
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The bad:
DVD is not anamorphic, Image looks funny on widescreen TVs. (I ended up ripping the DVD, cropping the image, and re-encoding a disc of my own.)

The good:
Apparently, everyone loves wrath of Khan. It's supposed to be the film that saved star trek. I was born after the classic Trek era. I grew up with TNG. The first Star Trek movie I remember seeing in theatres was First Contact.

Compared to First Contact, WOK is slow and boring (with a glaring continuity error right in the opening). It's not a bad film, it has a lot of redeeming qualities. There is a lot of dramatic irony, the plot is good, the characters are dynamic. It makes for an excellent study in technically proficient storytelling, but it was never a lot of fun for me. (Also, Ricardo Montalbán is the biggest Ham in the universe, right?)

This edit... well it made the film fun. The story moves more quickly, there is mystery and tension. Shatner seems like a great actor. What little we se of Khan makes him tolerable (even enjoyable). Also, the continuity problems have been amended.


On the whole, a fantastic edit. My go to copy of WOK.

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There’s never enough time to watch everything… and man, are there loads of fanedits which I need to catch up on! Well, one wet Thursday evening I fancied a bit of Star Trek, and having only seen 2 of Bob’s Trek edits (of the first and fifth movies), I thought it was about time I watched “Perdition’s Flames”.

Firstly, I really like the whole concept of what Bob has done with his TV series approach to the movies. The adding of the series sound effects, music and all the fade to black ad-breaks worked particularly well in “The V’ger Incident” (a few music level problems aside), and I’m pleased to say that the case for Perditions Flames is no different. In fact, as The Wrath of Khan always seemed to feel much like an extended TV episode anyway, the classic feel which Bob adds to this edit seems perhaps more like a perfect marriage of styles this time around. Indeed, it comes as no surprise that flashback footage to the actual TV episode, “Space Seed” is utilised when Kirk realises it is Khan who is attacking the Enterprise. What’s more, it’s nicely executed too, and to me the only aspect of this edit which would make it even better would have been to try and crop the image to 1.85:1 ratio. That being said, picture quality is good throughout and the sound editing this time around is more consistent with no varying levels to speak of.

So, for picture and sound quality I would give this a solid 9/10. Great job Mr Bionic.

In terms of the story, this was perhaps the most ambitious side of the edit, in that Bob tries to tell the story very much from the point of view of Kirk, meaning that we only ever see Khan when Kirk is also present in the scene. Initially I was a bit worried how this would work. After all, some of the best moments in the film are when Ricardo Montalban is chewing up the scenery, but for this edit and its intentions, it works very well. That being said, when it comes to the heroic exploits of a certain Mr Spock and the consequences thereafter, I did feel that there was a little too much missing, even though I fully understood Bob’s intention to keep things firmly fixed on Kirk’s point of view. The use of flashbacks and new music during Spock’s send off though does not work as well for me; not badly executed, it just didn’t seem to fit comfortably for me.

Overall however, the narrative works perfectly well in context of the edit and I wouldn’t hesitate in giving this 9/10

On the visual and audio front, the editing is more or less flawless and as already mentioned the audio side in particular is an improvement on Bob’s first Star Trek edit. So, Visual editing would get 10/10, audio 10/10.

Enjoyment is, as with all Bob’s edits, the aspect which shines through the most. You can tell the amount of enthusiasm and love which he puts into the edit and I was thoroughly entertained from start to finish, as easy 10/10 for me.

Overall then, Perditions Flames continues and in many ways improves on the good work started with The V’ger Incident. If you want to see Star Trek II from Kirk’s perspective then this is the perfect way to do so and you will have a blast; that I can guarantee.
Overall rating 
 
9.7
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.0
Visual Editing 
 
10.0
Audio Editing 
 
10.0
Narrative 
 
9.0
Enjoyment 
 
10.0
Reviewed by LastSurvivor October 17, 2012
Last updated: October 17, 2012
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There’s never enough time to watch everything… and man, are there loads of fanedits which I need to catch up on! Well, one wet Thursday evening I fancied a bit of Star Trek, and having only seen 2 of Bob’s Trek edits (of the first and fifth movies), I thought it was about time I watched “Perdition’s Flames”.

Firstly, I really like the whole concept of what Bob has done with his TV series approach to the movies. The adding of the series sound effects, music and all the fade to black ad-breaks worked particularly well in “The V’ger Incident” (a few music level problems aside), and I’m pleased to say that the case for Perditions Flames is no different. In fact, as The Wrath of Khan always seemed to feel much like an extended TV episode anyway, the classic feel which Bob adds to this edit seems perhaps more like a perfect marriage of styles this time around. Indeed, it comes as no surprise that flashback footage to the actual TV episode, “Space Seed” is utilised when Kirk realises it is Khan who is attacking the Enterprise. What’s more, it’s nicely executed too, and to me the only aspect of this edit which would make it even better would have been to try and crop the image to 1.85:1 ratio. That being said, picture quality is good throughout and the sound editing this time around is more consistent with no varying levels to speak of.

So, for picture and sound quality I would give this a solid 9/10. Great job Mr Bionic.

In terms of the story, this was perhaps the most ambitious side of the edit, in that Bob tries to tell the story very much from the point of view of Kirk, meaning that we only ever see Khan when Kirk is also present in the scene. Initially I was a bit worried how this would work. After all, some of the best moments in the film are when Ricardo Montalban is chewing up the scenery, but for this edit and its intentions, it works very well. That being said, when it comes to the heroic exploits of a certain Mr Spock and the consequences thereafter, I did feel that there was a little too much missing, even though I fully understood Bob’s intention to keep things firmly fixed on Kirk’s point of view. The use of flashbacks and new music during Spock’s send off though does not work as well for me; not badly executed, it just didn’t seem to fit comfortably for me.

Overall however, the narrative works perfectly well in context of the edit and I wouldn’t hesitate in giving this 9/10

On the visual and audio front, the editing is more or less flawless and as already mentioned the audio side in particular is an improvement on Bob’s first Star Trek edit. So, Visual editing would get 10/10, audio 10/10.

Enjoyment is, as with all Bob’s edits, the aspect which shines through the most. You can tell the amount of enthusiasm and love which he puts into the edit and I was thoroughly entertained from start to finish, as easy 10/10 for me.

Overall then, Perditions Flames continues and in many ways improves on the good work started with The V’ger Incident. If you want to see Star Trek II from Kirk’s perspective then this is the perfect way to do so and you will have a blast; that I can guarantee.

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Review by steelio2006 — June 21, 2011 @ 3:29 pm

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Reviewed by steelio2006 September 12, 2012
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Reviewed by Dwight Fry September 12, 2012
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