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September 13, 2012    
 
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Faneditor Name:
Sunarep
Tagline:
Revisit how it all began
Original Movie Title:
Genre:
Fanedit Type:
FanMix
Original Release Date:
2008, 2010, 2011
Original Running Time:
351
Fanedit Release Date:
September 2012
Fanedit Running Time (Min):
278
Time Cut (Min):
83
Time Added (Min):
10
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Brief Synopsis:
After Tony Stark revealed his superhero identity to the world he became part of a larger universe.
While the Stark Expo is on its way a mysterious terrorist emerges to destroy Starks legacy. Meanwhile the military is chasing a certain Dr. Bruce Banner who seems to be in possession of TOP secret military intelligence.

But all this seems like childsplay compared to what is happening in New Mexico: Astronomer Jane Foster is about to find out that the norse myths about gods of thunder and lies might not be the stuff of children's books.
Intention:
When Avengers was about to come out I scoured the Internet for an edit that would combine all the MCU movies into one chronological experience. Sadly what I found was an overly bloated edit that just threw in every single scene without proper musical transitions or anything.

Because I couldn't find an edit like this I started to wonder - was that the only version around?
It started out as a quick idea to put together an edit for me and my friends to watch before The Avengers. Due to the interest from the community I decided to revisit the rough edit. Smooth out things I did not quite enjoy that much, condense redundant things and try to give an entertaining ride one can take before watching the Avengers.

This edit is intended as a companion piece to:

Captain America: The Steve Rogers Cut (by AEMovieguy)
Iron Man 1
Marvel's: The Avengers

For a sort of "giant all night dvd session" with Avengers Initiative placed between Iron Man and The Avengers.
Other Sources:
Marvel One Shot: A funny thing that happened on the way to Thor's hammer
The Avengers: Deleted Scenes (Agent Hill, Captain America)
Audioslave: Show Me How To Live
Avengers Score: A Promise, Invasion
Special Thanks:
Rogue-theX for the title font design
Juize4z0 for being the most reliable Workprint viewer
Bionicbob for cool advice
Addiesin, Neglify, TMBTM, Uncanny Antman for help everytime something didn't quite work out
Release Information
PAL DVD-9
Editing Details:
The idea was to combine three movies (plus some scenes from other MCU movies) into one timeline.

But be warned!

This is not an edit that sticks 100% to the official Marvel chronology. I tried to follow the Timelines as much as possible but when the question is between accurate time and enjoyment enjoyment always wins - something I learned from Jigsaw Files.
An example would be Coulson who departs from Iron Man 2 to Thor. In the canon this happens before Thor gets banished because there are already strange storms happening.
but movie wise I felt it was way cooler that Thor appeared and then Coulson got the call to go to New Mexico.


Also The Incredible Hulk and Iron Man 2 have witnessed a lot of cuts and trims - Thor got away pretty unharmed.
Those cuts were made because I was not content with those two movies and I want to improve them.
Cuts and Additions:
While the movies are intercut with each other this cutlist will just list the separate movies and what was cut from those movies:

Iron Man 2:

No first person celebrity-Tony, doesn't really add much to the story

No Audi commercial, the scene is there to get Tony to the senate, I think we understand that when Tony is in Washington during a hearing we don't need to hear about liking a badge cause he really likes the badge and still likes the badge

The opening banter between Pepper and Tony about the art collection is gone

Happy (Jon Favreau) has been heavily trimmed I find him pretty annoying and self-indulgent

Vanko will first appear in Monaco and his story will be unveiled by Tony/Fury since they tell us everything we need to know

"Give me the case" and Happy slamming Vanko against the wall again and again is gone, vanko wakes up, whips the car and Tony gets the case

Vanko will not want bird (that was a tricky one to remove, he still has a bird when working but the attention is never on it)

I intend to cut the scene where Stark goes to Pepper in the office because it does not really move the story forward and because Pepper mentions "Tomorrow Hammer will have a presentation" which gives Tony one afternoon to drive back and an evening plus half a day to get a new element.

No Ex-Wife or fart-gag in final fight

No kid against evil drone - kid gags are dumb in every superhero movie

Removed some of Black Widow's comic posing

Cut Happy fighting during Black Widow fighting, the gag is drawn out and not that funny. The final punch remains and Happy sees what Widow has done during that



Incredible Hulk:

Hulk has had a lot of scenes removed that show Banner doing stuff the audience can assume - like waiting for the guy who gives him the flower. In the next scene banner tells Blue that he has finally gotten the flower so the waiting scene is pretty pointless.

No "hot chick at work getting threatened" Banner just bumps into the guys when he is chased and gets in a fight because of that, no need to introduce a woman we will never see again

Removed Banner getting Pizza - the scene doesn't give us anything new except a nice wink to the original Hulk. Banner arrives at the pizzeria, gets a room then Betty arrives

Cut Betty selling her necklace it doesn't really drive the plot, it is a cliché and we get the desperate atmosphere when we are watching shield preparing to find Banner

No Stern getting Hulk blood to become the leader - this is a plotline that will not be important in The Avengers and detracts from the main action plus it is an overdone gimmick in comic movies

No "sweet" or "booya" from the military

Tony Stark does not talk to Ross as the scene - in the MCU - leads nowhere. He is a consultant but what he tells Ross is so contradictory they even made a one shot to explain the scene away. I did not include the Consultant One Shot because it felt more like comic book geeks talking instead of real characters. So without this scene the Tony Stark meets Ross scene serves no purpose but to advertise The Avengers without narrative consequences.


Thor:

As I said I really like Thor and there is not that much that distracts me

Facebook reference is be gone, but the pic needs to be taken for the fake-id

The "dramatic death" of Thor was removed because it is obvious that he is not really dead, no slow mo run of Natalie Portman. This was the only scene I felt to be a letdown when watching Thor - Thor now gets his powers when he is willing to sacrifice himself



All three movies have some exposition scenes removed/rearranged
Cover art by Sunarep (DOWNLOAD HERE) image

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Overall rating 
 
8.7
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8.7  (3)
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9.3  (3)
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9.0  (3)
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8.3  (3)
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8.7  (3)
Though superhero films have been around for a while it wasn't until the X-Men that it became a genre all of its own. While there's been more misses than hits Marvel studios has shown just what can be done in terms of building a superhero universe on the big screen.

With Iron Man Marvel studios started what would become a cinematic universe combing all five films into one large story leading into one of the most enjoyable cinematic experiences I’ve had with the release of The Avengers.

Sunarep edit split into two parts interweaving a complicated plot which results with the formation of The Avengers. These two edits are a good way of watching the films within a short space time, with all the characters and events happening the way they should. However it leads to certain characters being off screen for along time and when they reappear you have to pick up a story that was left off maybe 20min ago. This isn't a criticism towards the edit it's just how the story has to play out when viewing it as hole.

Part 2 suffers from a lack of Tony Stark / Iron Man I felt the scene between him and General Ross could have been included along with Marvel One Shot the consultant if anything just to give him a little more screen time but also he is the biggest piece in the Marvel jigsaw puzzle it should have maybe ended with him.

Part 2 also suffers from a lack of editing as it's basically the last 40mins of Thor and The Hulk with a little interweaving at the start. Again not a criticism against the edit it's just how the story pans out but maybe a few bolder editing decisions could have been made to bring the story down to around 3½ hour mark. Steve Rodgers / Captain America introduction is well done making good use of some deleted footage from The Avengers.

Overall the edit doesn't suffer from not knowing certain characters origins or background as I've seen these films so many times now I’m able to fill in the parts that are missing. The main focus of the edit is how the team came together and overall an edit filled with superheroes taking on their foes can only be entertaining
Overall rating 
 
7.5
Audio/Video Quality 
 
8.0
Visual Editing 
 
8.0
Audio Editing 
 
8.0
Narrative 
 
8.0
Enjoyment 
 
7.0
Reviewed by leeroy November 19, 2012
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Though superhero films have been around for a while it wasn't until the X-Men that it became a genre all of its own. While there's been more misses than hits Marvel studios has shown just what can be done in terms of building a superhero universe on the big screen.

With Iron Man Marvel studios started what would become a cinematic universe combing all five films into one large story leading into one of the most enjoyable cinematic experiences I’ve had with the release of The Avengers.

Sunarep edit split into two parts interweaving a complicated plot which results with the formation of The Avengers. These two edits are a good way of watching the films within a short space time, with all the characters and events happening the way they should. However it leads to certain characters being off screen for along time and when they reappear you have to pick up a story that was left off maybe 20min ago. This isn't a criticism towards the edit it's just how the story has to play out when viewing it as hole.

Part 2 suffers from a lack of Tony Stark / Iron Man I felt the scene between him and General Ross could have been included along with Marvel One Shot the consultant if anything just to give him a little more screen time but also he is the biggest piece in the Marvel jigsaw puzzle it should have maybe ended with him.

Part 2 also suffers from a lack of editing as it's basically the last 40mins of Thor and The Hulk with a little interweaving at the start. Again not a criticism against the edit it's just how the story pans out but maybe a few bolder editing decisions could have been made to bring the story down to around 3½ hour mark. Steve Rodgers / Captain America introduction is well done making good use of some deleted footage from The Avengers.

Overall the edit doesn't suffer from not knowing certain characters origins or background as I've seen these films so many times now I’m able to fill in the parts that are missing. The main focus of the edit is how the team came together and overall an edit filled with superheroes taking on their foes can only be entertaining

Faneditor's Reply

Hey Leeroy,
Thanks for the Review and thanks for going into so much detail
I understand the longing for the scene with Tony Stark speaking to Ross from the End of Incredible Hulk and I knew that most people would not be happy with the scene gone, as this scene is pretty much the appetizer for the entire Avengers concept.

But I chose to delete it for story-reasons. As I released the edit after Avengers i had the chance to go through all the cliffhangers again and see if there was an actual payoff in the Avengers movie (also a reason why I cut down Natalie Portman's part at the end of Thor where she is searching for him).

With the Stark scene it was just a scene that was more there for the fans to get our anticipation up instead of driving the story. As established in Avengers SHIELD kept their distance from Hulk and even helped him from time to time to go unnoticed - so why did Stark approach Ross and offered him a deal to work with him?

For that Marvel staged the entire Consultant one-shot clip which I would have had to include for the Stark scene to make sense, but that scene in my opinion was just a long scene of fanboys discussing things in the MCU mixed with as many bad wordplays as they could squeeze in.

So long story short, i deleted the consultant and with it also Stark had to go - long essay I know, but I just wanted to state my reasons - even though of course people are completely right to expect this scene in an edit that is supposed to connect all these movies

Cheers Sun

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Basing this solely on part 1 because that's all i've seen.
I watched this yesterday and I'm pumped for part 2, Primarily this focuses on Iron man 2, while dipping into Hulk 08 and Thor, I'd say about a fraction of thor is covered an half of Hulk, these will take center stage in part 2.

How does it stand as a movie? it is completely watchable, I never found myself getting bored, because of the nature of the edit you zip between characters, there's always something happening to keep you interested. Given that Iron man 2 and Hulk weren't the best entries in the recent Marvel-verse, there;s just enough of the good stuff salvaged to tell a decent coherant story. Unlike neglify I perfer the back and forth nature of the films, though I wish a little less Iron man 2 had been included in part one, maybe saving the second encounter with Whiplash and his escape for part 2, but I'm nitpicking.

I can't wait to conclude the outcome.
Overall rating 
 
9.2
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.0
Visual Editing 
 
10.0
Audio Editing 
 
10.0
Narrative 
 
9.0
Enjoyment 
 
9.0
Reviewed by Omaru1982 November 07, 2012
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Basing this solely on part 1 because that's all i've seen.
I watched this yesterday and I'm pumped for part 2, Primarily this focuses on Iron man 2, while dipping into Hulk 08 and Thor, I'd say about a fraction of thor is covered an half of Hulk, these will take center stage in part 2.

How does it stand as a movie? it is completely watchable, I never found myself getting bored, because of the nature of the edit you zip between characters, there's always something happening to keep you interested. Given that Iron man 2 and Hulk weren't the best entries in the recent Marvel-verse, there;s just enough of the good stuff salvaged to tell a decent coherant story. Unlike neglify I perfer the back and forth nature of the films, though I wish a little less Iron man 2 had been included in part one, maybe saving the second encounter with Whiplash and his escape for part 2, but I'm nitpicking.

I can't wait to conclude the outcome.

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This was pretty damn fantastic! I really enjoy watching Avengers edits now, thanks to Sunarep and Juice. I won't compare it to juice's edit (mainly because I've yet to see his Part 2) but compared to the theatrical versions, this is a worthy alternative to having a massive marathon before re-watching The Avengers.

The only thing that bugged me was the overall structure. I liked that the films were intercut with each other instead of just playing out 1-2-3, but the flows felt off to a degree. I didn't have a huge problem with it but after having the finale of each movie I felt done for the night and put the edit on hold. I enjoyed the deleted scenes at the very end, but it felt a little dragged out in my opinion. Once the finale of Hulk happened, I was all set to rewatch Avengers.

Video quality was great, but since these are 2 hour (plus) movies I personally would have preferred a more standard DL DVD. Not a huge thing, but quality loss is noticeable in Part 1.

As for audio editing, I only noticed 1 rough audio transition, so well done on the other 100 transitions. ;)

Overall, I loved this edit. It does pretty much exactly what it wants to do, give viewers a shorter, better companion piece to Captain America: Steve Rogers Cut, Iron Man 1 and The Avengers.

P.S. Damn you. After hearing the first minute of that song in the end credits, now I gotta re-listen to that album. It's 2 AM, I gotta go to bed. :(
Overall rating 
 
9.4
Audio/Video Quality 
 
9.0
Visual Editing 
 
10.0
Audio Editing 
 
9.0
Narrative 
 
8.0
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10.0
Reviewed by Neglify September 20, 2012
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This was pretty damn fantastic! I really enjoy watching Avengers edits now, thanks to Sunarep and Juice. I won't compare it to juice's edit (mainly because I've yet to see his Part 2) but compared to the theatrical versions, this is a worthy alternative to having a massive marathon before re-watching The Avengers.

The only thing that bugged me was the overall structure. I liked that the films were intercut with each other instead of just playing out 1-2-3, but the flows felt off to a degree. I didn't have a huge problem with it but after having the finale of each movie I felt done for the night and put the edit on hold. I enjoyed the deleted scenes at the very end, but it felt a little dragged out in my opinion. Once the finale of Hulk happened, I was all set to rewatch Avengers.

Video quality was great, but since these are 2 hour (plus) movies I personally would have preferred a more standard DL DVD. Not a huge thing, but quality loss is noticeable in Part 1.

As for audio editing, I only noticed 1 rough audio transition, so well done on the other 100 transitions. ;)

Overall, I loved this edit. It does pretty much exactly what it wants to do, give viewers a shorter, better companion piece to Captain America: Steve Rogers Cut, Iron Man 1 and The Avengers.

P.S. Damn you. After hearing the first minute of that song in the end credits, now I gotta re-listen to that album. It's 2 AM, I gotta go to bed. :(

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