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Cosmogony
Synopsis:
Cosmogony is a fanedit using a lot of movies to tell the story of humantity and nature, from the creation of life to wherever we are going.
Intention:
When I started this work I thought it would be cool to use all the great movies about the various wars and iconic moments in human history... But it did not turn like that. I needed to have room to show various stories more centered around certain characters (lots of them fictional), events and ideas than making a list of "known moments".
The edit is quite slow paced and contemplative. With mostly only music, except some dialogue at key points.
Additional Notes:
About 80% or more of the music you'll listen to is added and does not belong to the original movies.
Some audiences could find it too long for what it tells and maybe they're right (2h12 min) but I could not cut much more than I already did without the feeling that I was removing some things that I like.
So, the edit is what it is; maybe not perfect and not for everyone but I like it.

If you did not see The Emerald Forest, Apocalypto and Contagion, I advise you to watch them before this edit because there are some spoilers in the scenes I'm using.
Other Sources:
New music by: Jean-Michel Jarre; Neil Young; Judas Priest; Klaus Schulze & Lisa Gerrard; Lou Reed & Metallica; Bruce Dickinson; Bjork (song Cosmogony on end credits)
Special Thanks:
Thanks to Neglify and NJVC for early preview of this work.
Release Information:
DVD
Special Features:
Not much this time. Just the trailer.
Editing Details:
There are no real "changes" to the movies I'm using, storywise. I just use some scenes, cut them as I want and connect them to some other movies to continue the story.
Few special effect shots on the final scene.

Cosmogony from TMBTM on Vimeo.

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Cosmogony
Synopsis:
Cosmogony is a fanedit using a lot of movies to tell the story of humantity and nature, from the creation of life to wherever we are going.
Intention:
When I started this work I thought it would be cool to use all the great movies about the various wars and iconic moments in human history... But it did not turn like that. I needed to have room to show various stories more centered around certain characters (lots of them fictional), events and ideas than making a list of "known moments".
The edit is quite slow paced and contemplative. With mostly only music, except some dialogue at key points.
Additional Notes:
About 80% or more of the music you'll listen to is added and does not belong to the original movies.
Some audiences could find it too long for what it tells and maybe they're right (2h12 min) but I could not cut much more than I already did without the feeling that I was removing some things that I like.
So, the edit is what it is; maybe not perfect and not for everyone but I like it.

If you did not see The Emerald Forest, Apocalypto and Contagion, I advise you to watch them before this edit because there are some spoilers in the scenes I'm using.
Other Sources:
New music by: Jean-Michel Jarre; Neil Young; Judas Priest; Klaus Schulze & Lisa Gerrard; Lou Reed & Metallica; Bruce Dickinson; Bjork (song Cosmogony on end credits)
Special Thanks:
Thanks to Neglify and NJVC for early preview of this work.
Release Information:
DVD
Special Features:
Not much this time. Just the trailer.
Editing Details:
There are no real "changes" to the movies I'm using, storywise. I just use some scenes, cut them as I want and connect them to some other movies to continue the story.
Few special effect shots on the final scene.
Cover art by The Man Behind The Mask (DOWNLOAD HERE) image

Cosmogony from TMBTM on Vimeo.

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(Updated: July 18, 2022)
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9.2
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10.0
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10.0
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10.0
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7.0
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8.0
Filesize = 4.16 GB, Video = 720 X 480p mpgv, Audio = 320 kbps 2-Channel Stereo AC3

Ambitious story of humanity from the genesis of the cosmos to modern day.
Film fans will recognize 2001, Quest For Fire, Apocalypto, The Mission, etc …
It does seem to settle in the New World, omitting whole continents.
Also, it is dated. Scenes from Koyaanisqatsi would have pointed where humanity is headed.
Along with the eternal, suicidal conflicts we engage in.

This is a DVD, with menu and trailer, few editors bother with those nowadays.
The audio is superior to the video, though I found the audio too loud most of the time, often overwhelming what sparse dialogue there is.
As far as music choices, for every good tune, there were three I rolled my eyes at. Tastes vary, so I just tried to ignore.
By the end, I found “the story of us” suffered from overreach. I still wonder if TMBTM was trying to replicate a huge screen IMAX event.
TMBTM seems to be slowing down, too. Retired? Bummer, he remains a good editor.

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8.3
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8.0
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9.0
This is beautiful.
A beautiful, bold and lyrical experiment in artful storytelling.
I will be honest, I did not quite grasp it all. But what did not register with my intellect definitely manipulated me emotionally. There were moments where I did struggle with the narrative; where it felt a bit too long or drawn out, but then the story would evolve and I would find myself engrossed again.
I don't know if is this something I would watch repeatedly, but I do feel richer for the experience.
Thank you TMBTM!

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Somewhat shamefully, my anticipation for this, TMBTM’s latest fan-editing exercise, was dampened by a certain scathing review which appeared for one day and then disappeared the next. I thought to myself, could one of the best fan-editors in the community have really dropped the ball that badly?

The concept of Cosmogony excited me greatly. A deep, meaningful and very ambitious fan edit about “us”, using visuals and music to power the heart of the story. It’s quite honestly the kind of edit I’d been longing for an experienced editor to turn their hand to. The trailer just whetted the appetite even more, with Jean Michel Jarre’s mystical, majestic music marrying to beautiful imagery with effortless aplomb.

Most challenging question for an edit of this nature, especially one which runs over 2 hours, is simply in how well it can engage the viewer. After all, it’s all very well having pretty images to look at, but after about 30 minutes, if there’s no substance to engage us then one’s concentration and interest will undoubtedly begin to wane.

Initially, as the different chapters begin to unfold I was preparing myself for a narrative which would feel very loose and not necessarily hang together that effectively. It was a delightful surprise therefore to realise that TMBTM has taken much more care than that, with a linear storyline which actually makes sense, has relevance and perhaps most surprising of all, an emotional power which touched me greatly during various parts of the edit – particularly in the relationship we have with our own planet and how ruthlessly we treat it at times. In a way, I wasn’t prepared for how successful this element would be and I have to applaud TMBTM for his efforts here.

The music choices are varied, but uniformly excellent. Being a fan of the aforementioned Jean Michel Jarre , I was jumping for joy at the use of some of the composer’s lesser known pieces. He’s certainly the most prominent composer used (including some good use of the symphonic versions of his work), but there’s also some inspired choices from the likes of Judas Priest too. I have to admit that I was skeptical of actual songs being used, but TMBTM squashes such fears with the lyrics of the songs chosen being very relative to the scene they are combined with.
On the technical front I was amazed at how good the picture is for what is a single layer DVD. Yes, it would have been amazing to have this edit in HD, but to be fair it didn’t bother me one bit. Not to mention that ripping blu-ray files for the amount of films which are used here would demand a very big hard drive and a RAID RAM set-up to work well in the editing suite. Also, I love the stereo mix on the audio front. It sounded excellent through my system, and the absence of 5.1 mix didn’t even cross my mind. Plus, with the amount of extra “stereo” based music used in the edit, it would just seem superfluous to create a 5.1 mix for an edit like this.

Overall, Cosmogony is a fantastic piece of work. TMBTM always produces fine work, but here, with what many will label as a self-indulgent arty fanedit, he has arguably created his finest achievement to date. Perhaps not an edit for everyone, but I loved every beautiful second of it.

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TMBTM makes them like no one else makes them. This is an epic, mind bending, meditative, spiritual, philosophical brain bender of an edit. I loved the ambition and the scope, and was able to keep up with the intention of the chosen scenes most of the time.

Personal preference would have seen less wailing electric guitars (those sections distracted me a little) in favour of some ambient tracks from Arvo Part, or Sigur Ros, and I think the whole thing could have been a few minutes shorter, but that's not really the point here.

Well done TMBTM, another standout effort!

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When TMBTM announced this project a few months back I was deeply intrigued. Taking the viewer on "a journey about us" is no small feat, and I think if anyone but TMBTM attempted such an ambitious project it would have failed.

It's really difficult to talk about this project as it's more about the emotion than a story per say. That said, it's a beautifully crafted piece that, I think, everyone should experience: fans of films for the entertainment value, and fan editors to see what one can do with fanedits.

I only have a handful of minor criticisms. I would have much preferred 5.1 over stereo. I would have also liked an HD release as this definitely warrants a 1080p viewing in my opinion. (Combined I knocked off 1-star for this.) It did feel a tad long and could have been trimmed by a few minutes here and there. Finally, I think it would have been more effective in the scenes with just music, especially in the beginning, if there were subtle sound effects too. (No points off for this, just a personal preference.)

Some might say this is pretentious. It might be, but the edit is effective is worth at least one watch.

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I was very excited to watch this when I first read about it. I love films and documentaries about the origins of life.

This film is very well made, especially the first half. I was stuck to the screen for the first hour. What an amazing experience. I thoroughly enjoyed most of this film. The only part I felt didn't fit as well was the scenes from The Emerald Forrest. I get how it adds to the narrative but it just ruined the flow of the movie for me.

Also, I did not like the soundtrack very much. I love Neil Young and Classic Rock but the songs choices just made the film feel like it was made in the 70s or 80s. I would have loved if had a vibe like Trent Reznors film scores. Or music from electronic producers like Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada, Teen Daze, Schlomo, or Clams Casino.

Overall, I really enjoyed watching this and will definitely be recommending this to people.

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It's an incredibly ambitious project. I don't think my mind would have ever put half of these films together but the TMBTM has really showed us what can be done with fan edits if you are willing to be bold. Overall, I really enjoyed seeing so many of my favorite films in such a new light.

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The first hour and a half or so of this edit is phenomenal and truly amazing, if it stayed that good it would almost have a 10/10 score for me but sadly I have complaints. After the scenes about the virus start things start to get confusing as time becomes harder to keep track of. Instead of easily pin pointing where in time I am watching like the rest of the film the final "third act" is a bunch of tribes from various movies, mostly interacting with Americans. The scenes dragged on so long and had been done better earlier in the film. These scenes really ruined the movie and its pacing, it should have been replaced with world wars and famous disasters but instead it ended, boring and confusing. HOWEVER the first hour is truly amazing and a wonder of cinema and I highly recommend at least watching the first half.

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Parts of Cosmogony were beautiful, combining tone poetry with reflections on life and humanity. I'm reminded of some of the documentaries and movies that have caused me to think of my place in the universe, and this ambitious edit is like a feature-length collage built from those pieces.

Cosmogony felt overly long in places, and large swaths of footage from The Emerald Forest carried unintentional goofiness that didn't match the tonality of the rest of the edit. The soundtrack was overlaid evenly and with skill and was appropriately ethereal or elegiac in places, though other musical selections didn't work so well and took me a bit out of the experience, particularly the overly dramatic synthesizers attached to the Apocalypto chase sequence.

The meditative and almost spiritual nature of TMBTM's effort reminds me of blueyoda's superb (fe) la vie series, in that they rely on no primary cinematic source to tell a deeply emotional story that cannot be neatly summarized. Definitely worth a watch.

Enjoyjoy: 8 pelvic aerothusts.

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My first impressions were mixed. I do not think the subheading fits the title, because “Cosmogony” has a high tone that does not gel with the demotic “a fanedit about us”. The cover art was exceptional though and fitted the theme perfectly.

The DVD main menu was simple and effective, with a short, well-chosen clip that avoided the usual trap of animated menus: boring me senseless with a repeating montage of what I am about to see. (It could run for a little longer before it loops though.) The chapter menu is fine, but the black text does not work well against the background image. There is a nice trailer as an extra.

The division of the work into sections, with well-chosen headings, is successful and helps to unify the edit and give it structure; however, some sections are overlong, feel disjointed and feature too much material from the usually-well-selected films from which they are sourced. As a result, there are moments in which the edit feels like watching the originals and loses pace. These include the extended sequence with the proto-humans and the latter half of the one from 1492.

Where it succeeds, the edit is wonderful. Where it doesn't, it is always interesting, even when it has ceased to be enjoyable, and this says a great deal about the scope of the edit and the ambition of its editor. A strong beginning and ending help greatly and serve to bookend an edit that feels more like a fan-creation than a fan-edit.


Video

The video, drawn from a variety of sources, is of high quality for DVD. Extremely rarely, there is some blocking. Perhaps inevitably, the quality is not always consistent, and I couldn't help feeling that some color grading could have been applied to give the edit more of a look of its own.

Unfortunately, the edit cuts between sources that display nominal analogue blanking and sources that do not, with the result that the transition from one source to another is sometimes visible, and this should have been addressed during editing. What effects shots there were did not stand out as being added, which means they succeeded. :-)

Overall, Cosmogony presents a pleasing and generally-stable image.

Audio

The audio is harder to judge. It is well edited. No cuts stand out. Dynamic range is subject to personal preference but, as the edit is largely music-based, it is worth noting that sometimes the volume is a little high. Music choices are a matter of taste, so I shall simply observe that the music chosen usually fitted the subject matter and say that the replacement of the original scoring showed skill.

TMBTM's work is always vibrant and artistic; Cosmogony is no exception. It wavers between the broad, almost dreamlike sweep for which it aims and its focus on individual moments, but is diverting to the last.

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