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BERNSTEIN'S BASTERDS - A WRAITH RE-SCORING EXPERIMENT: Part 1 of 2

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Hi folks

What if I take an overlong 153 min movie, cut it to 102 minutes and then remove all the music?

What if I then do two versions each with a different score?

A lot of score replacement projects tend to either randomly use music from various composers, or will focus on one composer sourcing music from multiple films that they have worked on.

I propose to take two scores from two very different composers and then adhering to the discipline used by composes for film music composition, adhere to those principals as if the music had been composed for this movie.

What does this mean?

It means that I will use the themes and Leimotifs in a consistent manner both for characters and situations.

It also means that these two versions will feel VERY different from each other and of course different from the original but visually and runtime wise they will be identical in every other respect.

The workprint has now long been prepared waiting for me and I’m in the process of finalising the first version for which I will release a trailer as soon as it is completed.

Which movie am I using?

INGLORIOUS BASTERDS

WHICH COMPOSERS WILL I BE USING?
  • ELMER BERNSTEIN
  • ENNIO MORRICONE.
The Morricone score is from a lesser known non-western film and so the music will be fresh to most.
The Elmer Bernstein score, well I’ll let the trailer reveal that to you in a few days time.
 
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Moved to ideas. Fixes, mixes etc is for completed edits.
 
UPDATE

I'm hoping to submit the ffirst version using Elmer Bernstein's GREAT ESCAPE score this week.

A trilaer will follow today or tomorrow .

Some details.
  • All but 10 secs of the original music have been removed.
  • Aproximately 60 mins of the 102 mins runtime is scored.
  • 31 minutes from the 91 minutes of available score were NOT used, either due to excessive repetion, or just not useable.
  • No exact piece of music is used more than once (except 2 stings, that were doubled in length for dramatic purposes).
  • All but 6 cues from the EXPANDED GREAT ESCAPE 2 CD set were used, but not all the music in those cues. Many were extensively reworked to fir the visuals and vice versa.
  • 51 minutes of the original movie have been removed
  • 2 minutes added
  • Extensive full audio rebuild for many scenes
  • Leimotifs, thems and melodies from the new score have been applied consistently to situations, characters and drama....a few have been used to either misdirect the viewer or to inject melodic irony.
  • The THEME from THE GREAT ESCAPE, appears in many forms and stlyes on the original score; some are as expected, but the theme was also orchestrated dramatically, melancholy-like, tense and even a few cues which have dissonate orchestrations...these have been used to good effect.
  • The 20 min intro with LANDA now runs 10 mins.
  • LANDA scenes run for the most part UNSCORED (per the original), with a few stings or minor underscoring added where it felt appropriate.
  • Some scenes are in black and white, and adjuested for high contrast where needed.
  • Some scenes that were not previously scored, now are.
  • Hitler's Rant is gone
  • The Zoeller romance is gone
  • Over exposition is gone
  • The game in the tavern, is gone.
  • The climax is restructured
  • Over 80 sound FX were used throughout.
  • New opening and end credits have been created.
  • A new flashback has been added (which was used in The Tarantino Tales Episode 7, but was originally created for THIS edit).
The second version of this edit....
(MORRICONE's BASTERDS)
... will use Ennio Morricone's score from "Violent City"/"Citta Violenta" (1970) starring Charles Bronson and Telly Savalas; the visuals of THAT second version will be IDENTICAL to this one, so the score may need more tweaking. The whole point here is to have two identical workprints, then score them differently.

That score ( "Violent City") is wildly different than The Great Escape. It is not known by many who have not seen the film and it contains a wide variety of cues and styles, which lend themselves to creating a very different feeling movie than either the original or this version, BERNSEIN's BASTERDS.

I have already analysed the score and allocated where the music will be placed and the edits and remixes I need to perform to make that score work. There may be changes to that if the music does not deliver as expected (that occured on this first version, so cues were re-ordered or not used).

A non-exhaustive change list will follow for this version after I complete the trailer.
 
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CHANGES LIST - BERNSTEIN's BASTERDS

BERNSTEIN’s BASTERDS CHANGE LIST: (Scoring and foley, follow below).

VISUALS
Changes count noted, but not details of every edit

  • 001 ADDED FE LOGO
  • 002 ADDED WRAITH LOGO
  • 003 ADDED RED APPLE CREW MEMBER LOGO
  • 009 ADDED CUSTOM pre-opening credits
  • 010 REMOVED opening credits
  • 049 REMOVED 12 mins from farm opening
  • 051 FARM opening is in Black and White
  • 081 ADDED 32 audio elements for sound rebuild
  • 096 RESTRUCTURED interview and underfloor board shots, including cropping out Landa’s notebook for new pan down, which is repurposed
  • 097 REMOVED Hitler’s rant
  • 123 26 excisions from the forest scene to tighten up and accommodate new scoring
  • 140 ADDED 17 audio elements for sound rebuild
  • 142 two minor trims to mission briefing
  • 143 ADDED insert shot of Paris cinema to Mission Briefing
  • 165 ADDED 22 audio elements to Paris street sound rebuild
  • 170 Entry to restaurant restructured to remove Zoeller
  • 171 REMOVED ZOELLER and SHOSHANA meeting outside cinema.
  • 172 REMOVED entire restaurant scene with Zoeller and Shoshana
  • 174 REMOVED NITRATE FILM lecture by Samuel L Jackson. I mean, seriously. WTF! She tells us its explosive in the very next scene.
  • 199 15 trims to excise Zoeller and pacing for re-scoring pre-Landa
  • 232 ADDED 12 shots for new flashback in Black and White
  • 247 15 trims and tweaks during Land’s arrival
  • 250 3 minor trims during Land interview
  • 251 Removed sex scene shot
  • 278 ADDED 27 audio elements to sound rebuild in cinema foyer
  • 283 5 trims to foyer scene for re- scoring purposes
  • 305 ADDED 22 audio elements to SAFE HOUSE scene in village for re-scoring audio rebuild
  • 336 36 trims to second part of TAVERN SCENE to remove the game. These changes were all made prior to The Tarantino Tales Episode 7, but used for that edit as well.
  • 352 18 audio elements added during new restructured Shoshana “GETTING READY” scene, and re-timed for scoring.
  • 366 14 minor trims for timings for re-scoring to same scene
  • 374 REMOVED all Foyer Zoeller romantic inferences
  • 375 REMOVED Landa’s laugh
  • 376 REMOVED first exit from screening to explore
  • 426 restructured and re-timed climax up to STAIRS for re-scoring; Zoellers intrusion is removed as well
  • 438 23 audio elements added to pre explosion to rebuild audio for rescoring
  • 439 REMOVED big slo-mo shot and no plays normally
  • 463 ADDED new TOPAZ pass shots of explosion which were re timed and altered for speed.
  • 474 21 shot alterations to climax
  • 526 ADDED 52 new captions for custom end credits
  • 527 ADDED RED APPLE CREW MEMBER logo
  • 528 ADDED FE Logo
  • 529 ADDED WRAITH logo

MUSIC CUES.
All original music was removed barring 10 secs (can you find those pesky 10 seconds?).

ADDED RE-SCORING CUES in the order that they appear.
  • Many scenes use more than one cue to achieve the desired effect.
  • 68 distinct cues were used in either edited or complete versions.
  • DUCKING
  • 468 level adjustments to the 68 cues used.
  • Mixing and editing of clips excluded.
ONly 4 Cues were not used, totaling 8 minutes. These were:
  • 1.08 "x"/Tonight we dig
  • 1.09 The Scrounger
  • 2.13 Road's End
  • 2.14 Betrayal
Not all the used cues are complete in their use; many are re-edited and re-ordered for sync purposes, but here they are in order of use.
  • 1 02 – At First Glance
  • 1.07 – The Mole
  • 1.01 Main Title
  • 1.10 Water Faucet
  • 1.18 Yankee Doodle
  • 1.05 Forked
  • 1.05 Forked
  • 2.01 Various Troubles
  • 1.17 Booze
  • 1.03 Premature Plans
  • 2.07 Foul Up
  • 1.17 Booze
  • 2.08 The Station
  • 2.09 On the Road
  • 1.11 Interruptus
  • 2.02 Panic
  • 1.04 If At Once
  • 1.19 Discovery
  • 1.19 Discovery
  • 1.19 Discovery
  • 1.19 Discovery
  • 1.19 Discovery
  • 1.19 Discovery
  • 1.10 Water Faucet
  • 1.04 If At Once
  • 1.19 Discovery
  • 1.19 Discovery
  • 1.14 Hilts & Ives
  • 1.16 Restless Men
  • 1.16 Restless Men
  • 1.16 Restless Men
  • 2.03 The Pin Trick
  • 2.05 Realest Again/Escape Time
  • 2.04 Hendley’s Risk
  • 2.06 20 Feet Short
  • 1.17 Booze
  • 1.11 Interruptus
  • 1.17 Booze
  • 2.11 Flight Plan
  • 2.11 Flight Plan
  • 1.15 Cave In
  • 1.15 Cave In
  • 1.15 Cave In
  • 1.11 Interruptus
  • 1.12 The Plan /Sad Ives
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 2.06 20 Feet Short
  • 2.06 20 Feet Short
  • 1.13 Green Thumbs
  • 2.12 More Action/Hilts Captured
  • 1.04 If At Once
  • 1.06 Cooler
  • 1.06 Cooler
  • 1.06 Cooler
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 1.06 Cooler
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 2.01 Various Troubles
  • 2.01 Various Troubles
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 2.10 The Chase/ First Casualty
  • 2.15 Three Gone/Home Again
  • 2.16 Finale/The Cast

FOLEY USED for sound rebuilding. SOURCE FREESOUND.ORG
List only includes additional audio used and NOT any isolated audio from the original.
No list for AI isolated dialogue is provided.

  • 36433_elbanquo__car_engine_off.wav
  • 106486_klankontwerp_4banger_engine_outside_1.aiff
  • 445811_thoryn_opening-hard-make-up-case.wav
  • 235507 ceberation_car-engine.wav
  • 333221_hdfreema_night-crickets-back-porch.wav
  • 488056_bendrain_ car door_open_02 way
  • 553183 nachtmahrtv_enter-car-with-running-engine.wav 660321_Indip__car4.wav
  • 553902 itinerantmonk108 walk-and-run-up-stairs.wav 155388_woodmoose guncock.wav
  • 406688_t|colbe_walking-down-hallway_hardwood_quiet-heel_medium-spee
  • 674335_d-ryro_footsteps-grass-3.wav
  • 259226 decembered outdoors-rumble.wav
  • 333221_hdfreema_night-crickets-back-porch.aiff
  • 472674_tvilgiat_locked-door.wav
  • 654984_jo_vanvuuren_unscrewing-and-popping-off-metal-lid-on-glass-jar.w.
  • 67349_simon_lacelle_stapler_hands_02.wav
  • 182249_martian_loys-gun-cock-far.wav
  • 545958_cloud-10_gun-cocking-sound.mp3
  • 683785_elements-library_hard-impact-on-sand.wav
  • 528953_fthgurdy_walking-on-sand-and-gravel-2.wav 442894_180118_cutting-foam.wav
  • 625622_hannahbelle144__knife-1.mp3
  • 344497_mike_stranks_woodland-walk-through-leaves.wav
  • 101502_earthsounds_woodland-ambience.wav
  • 653529__maxman727__walking-on-carpet
  • 87506_qubodup__cuttingbread.wav
  • 87506_qubodup_cuttingbread.flac
  • 454359_kyles_wind-light-breeze-whips-through-grass-aspen-sparse-corn-gusts-rustle.flac
  • 79031_labailey_cutting-a-pastry.wav 540978_univ_lyon3_tordeux_emeline_2020_2021_handbreakbread.wav
  • 407984_judith136_64 WATER.wav
  • 176963_kyster_old-water-pump-by-the-lake-2013-02-02.wav
  • 361126__dsoadigital_footsteps-in-the-grass.wav 362250_dsoadigital_grass-footsteps.mpB
  • 454841_tonmeister88_mountain-meadow-switzerland-birds-insects-distant-c.. 543783_stefan_machu_tauplitz-freesound1.mp3
  • 637555_kyles__footsteps-shoes-walk-hard-floor-stone-patio-nice.wav 72674_tvilgiat_locked-door.wav
  • 708235__hendrikodendaalow__slow-walk-on-wooden-floor614074 stormwaveaudio_small-metal-slide-1.wav
  • 607924__eminyildirim_night-ambient-loop.wav
  • 218321_splicesound_julians-door-open-and-close-hinge-only.wav
  • 683785_elements-library_hard-impact-on-sand.wav 52807__firefreak__heavymetaldooroutsidemicsnearwall
  • 408039__170048virtualwindowcoza__exerercise-_-push-ups 697925__jaklocke__push-person-2
  • 637147__kyles__air-tone-village-night-very-quiet-light-breeze-distant-something 614475_secondbody__35.wav
  • 534478__vital_sounds__2-men-walking-on-gravel-path.wav
  • 615082__epicallay__walking-in-dirt-on-side-of-country-road-1.m4a
  • 740419__fossarts__walking-indoors-on-concrete-floor-1.wav
  • 376873__deepseapro__sandal-gravel-walk.wav
  • 361126__dsoadigital_footsteps-in-the-grass.wav
  • 362250_dsoadigital_grass-footsteps.mpB
  • 454841_tonmeister88_mountain-meadow-switzerland-birds-insects-distant-c..
  • 543783_stefan_machu_tauplitz-freesound1.mp3
  • 637555_kyles__footsteps-shoes-walk-hard-floor-stone-patio-nice.wav
  • 72674_tvilgiat_locked-door.wav
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Submission made.

Part 2, Morricone's Basterds, September 2024.
 
UPDATE

The above foley list has been further expanded, including some additional items identified by @futon88, who kindly also supplied a completed foley segment while Shoshana is splicing the film etc ...

Nice work friend...
Thanks
 
Example of a complete sound rebuild, from the ground up.


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STATISTICS

304 individual audio level adjustments to music
288 physical cuts to the main movie
184 Sound Effects pieces used to rebuild audio (some last several minutes)
86 Audio fragments from the original re-used or repurposed
85 dips to main audio sound to accomodate music
70 distict music cues added
55 mins Minutes cut
28 AI Vocal segements used (totaling 12 mins)
27 songs or music cues removed
16 subtitle captions added
9 scenes requiring full or partial audio rebuild
6 mins added
2 versions available
  • 2 gb for small screens and mobile devices
  • 6 gb version for everything else.
1 almost insurmountable 'half a frame' sync issue (a rare thing, lasting only 3 mins) which took two weeks to figure out the why...(after that, the fix was easy).
0 music cues were used more than once (except a single sting used three times).
 
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i LOVE stats haha
Very very exciting creation, I can't wait to see it!
 
UPDATE

Following the first review by @bionicbob , I have made revisions following his observations to resolve the two minor issues they noted. I have also made a few additional tweaks to levels to further improve the experience...

THANKS @bionicbob

You can read their review below

Review for Bernstein's Basterds: A WRAITH Re-Scoring Experiment Part 1, - Fanedit.org

AMAZING!!! It is incredible how the Bernstein score both perfectly fit and transformed the source material. As I watched and the new score washed over me, I was transported back to the 1960s, to the bygone era of some Hollywood's finest WWII films -- The Dirty Dozen, Where Eagles Dare and, of...
fanedit.org fanedit.org

The latest version is in the same location for those that have the details and is now deisgnated V15C.

A large (6GB) and small (2GB) file version are avaialable.
W
 
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UPDATE

Thanks to the EVER vigilant and sharp eyed @ParanoidAndroid , VERSION 15 D will be available tomorrow containing the following changes:

0:31:42 Shosanna's head position jumps between cuts so the shot has been moved and the framing and subtitles redone to accomodate the continuity
0:54:56 Subtitle Text jumps at the cut corrected
0:55:00 Should be "Not I" instead of "Nor I"?
1:40:00 "Bernstein", currently "Berstein"
1:40:09 Text alignment credit corrected
1:40:27 Should be "Alan Smithee", no second "I"

@ParanoidAndroid is SOOOO eagle eyed that 13 more subtitling issues were spotted BUT are burnt into the original, so these shall remain ...for now.
THANKS as always to you CHIEF!
 
....I have also added an additional music cue....

Such a change is VERY unusual for me to make given the edit was completed...nevertheless, I felt that the cue added HAD to go in. In The Great Escape, there is a moment when two escapees (trying to avoid spoilers" are discovered due to a basic slip up...that music has been added to this edit at a similar point....to emulate that scene in the Great Escape, when a certain moment occurs...

Apologies to those that already have the edit....If anyone wants to know precise when the cue is added, please DM me...

The cue is called "At The Train Station", and was not used in any other part of the edit...
 
UPDATE:
thanks to TRUSTED REVIEWER and the bionic vision of @bionicbob , a tiny protagonist geography continuity issue at the restaurant was flagged. I am not only grateful for this, but I have also managed to fix it despite the fact that there is little to play with and there are a few jump cuts in there already which truncate movements for a stylistic staccato entry, but this now works....

A revised file will be placed in the same folder that viewers already have.

Thanks @bionicbob
 
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