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Dr Jones and the Skull Kingdom Mystery


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I have completed the edit. The DVD is about a week away, mayber less so I have released the trailer in Mega..../?d=0J0H26HN.

I do not want to give to much away prior to full post. So the trailer show a little of what is gone and been done. What it does not show is the enhanced scoring, better romance, less chees, no silly lines or silly CGI or comedy Russians. New FULLY new opening and re vampmed non UFO ending with NEW FX shots to eliminate aliens etc plus 80s film stock look and colour correction PLUS and removal of excessive CGI panning shots and downplay Indys age inorder to tighten up ALL the action sequences (compare trailer warehouse to the theatrical version)...plus no mushroom could and LOTS more. RT is 1hr 39 min, 23 min deleted and 2 min (from another movie) added.....and more...no ants, dogs, monkeys, scorpions etc...Is there a film left I hear you cry? Yes...In fact if you tabulate Raiders and what the action sequences are, what is in them and long they are, this is still structurally comparable and by no means a cop out. I think the tone, look and feel is no as near spot on to being a worthy contender as you are ever likley to get without re-shooting half the film.

As always I will release this with ALL the deleted material as an extra and the full edits list as my previous. I started this on a whim a year ago thinking it was an easy win (not having read any of the other Indy thread....HONEST)....I will read them once I have released it...since I did not want to be influenced....but lets see....Editing this really does not give you too many choices.

POsting any day now

pls comment etc,

Thx to all of you for your comments

I'd like to see the trailer for this. Perhaps you can fix the link?
reave - NO.
Render DVD tonight, and tomorrow doing DVD cover art and finishing description of edit.
Will also render the MP4 for you.

Very good trailer, Wraith! Only, there's an awkward video crossfade at around the 00:28 mark, right after "I like Ike", a bit of a deleted shot appears. Otherwise, nice job!
Thx...v odd, will check
WOW...impressed you saw that...have re-rendered and will repost tonight.....

Yep nice trailer.
Too many trailers (including my Kong and Judas Breed ones) plays like if it's the original movie.
Yours shows that it's a fanedit and I think it's good to have some trailers like this one.
Can you upload it on youtube or vimeo for it to be shown on the front page later?
Old trailer removed, new improved is up on Mega
Nice trailer, Wraith! I especially like the color comparisons. One thing I don't like about many modern films is how they don't feel like natural color is good enough anymore. Does every Shia LeBoeuf movie have a golden/orange tint to it or what? Anyway, congrats on being so close to releasing it.
Very cool stuff, Wraith! I particularly like the reveal of the Trinity monument -- looks very Spielberg-esque. Ever since I saw it in the color correction sample you posted months ago, I've wondered how it was going to look in motion. Nice!

It's also really interesting to see how some of the stuff you've cut I've kept and some of the stuff I've cut you've kept. Always cool to see different possibilities and combinations. Like you, I've tried to avoid being overly influenced by the other edits out there, but I'm very much looking forward to checking your edit out when mine is closer to completion (which will probably be a while, but still) :).
ITS UP. reave - No. Full DVD this weekend.
To HEBRIDES...Maybe when you are done we can chat and do a HYBRID joint edit, we agree what works best, dice up the film in to 4 chunks and 2 chunks each based on our agreement? WADAYASAY?
reave - NO.
---------------- wait for it to be posted on fanedit.info.
The MP4 is up there...here are the FULL DETAILS after the summary. This is for the FANEDIT PAGE for the movie. SPOILER in great detail.
Original film name:Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of Crystal Skull
New film name : Dr Jones and the Skull Kingdom Mystery
Film studio name : Paramount
Edit crew name : Wraith
Date Original Film Was released : 22 May 2008
Date Edit Was Released : 13 Jan 2011
Original Runtime : 122 min
New Runtime : 99 min
Added 2 min from Trinity and Beyond : Dir Peter Kuran
So after a year, my take on Indy 4.
New FULLY new opening and re vampmed non UFO ending with NEW FX shots to eliminate aliens etc plus
80s film stock look and colour correction PLUS and removal of excessive CGI panning shots over moving vehicles etc.
Downplay Indys age in order to tighten up ALL the action sequences (compare trailer warehouse to the theatrical version)...plus
no mushroom could and LOTS more...no ants, no prarie dogs, no monkeys, no scorpions etc...
Is there a film left I hear you cry? Yes...In fact if you tabulate Raiders and what the action sequences are, what is in them and long they are, this is still structurally comparable
and by no means a cop out. I think the tone, look and feel is no as near spot on to making Indy 4 a worthy contender to the franchise (bar re-shooting half the film).
Other stuff...cleaned up some of the FBI goons crap. Enhanced the Mario romance by adding some music at key points and making her less silly...she was NEVER silly.
More stuff....no fight with the crazy Russian at the cliff edge, Spalko is more mysterious, Mac a bit less corny....and the list just goes on and on and on.. (DETAILED VERSION BELOW AND HIDDEN)
DVD release Info
release information:
NTSC Release at 5350 mbps and at 448 kps 5:1 surround SL
A movie, trailer, all deleted scenes and an Easter egg!!!
An MP4 version is also available
DVD details:
Single DISC
Main Film 4.06 build 11
1 Trailers
hardware used:
EDITED on DEL Dimension 8300
2 x 1 TB Western Digital SATA Drives
4 gb RAM
Intel 3.2mb GHz Dual Core
Windows XP Sp3
Saphire 1950xt 512mb
Correl Ulead Video Studio 11 for editing
Correl Ulead Video Studio 12 for endering this version 2.02c
DVD Movie Factory 4
Cooledit Pro V 1
Total Video Converter v 3 for MP4 conversion 640×480 1:2.35 Anamorphic at 2000 mbps and Audio at 192kbps
Animation for titles and opening starfield in Paint, Photoshop and Photo Pro Plus
SF Fedora - Version 1.0s
The following fonts were used:
- SF Fedora
- SF Fedora Titles
- SF Fedora Titles Shadow
There are a total of:
ORIGINAL RUN TIME:2hr 2min 33sec
FOOTAGE ADDED:1min 59 Sec (From Trinity & Beyond Dir: Peter Kuran
FOOTAGE DELETED: 23min 16 sec
New Run Time:1hr 38min 57sec

001 Custom opening using footage from the TRINITY AND BEYOND: THE ATOMIC BOMB MOVIE, including Music from the film which is very Raiders. Footage is treated and WAS in colour but converted in B&W
002 Trinity site shot used and aspect modified and repositioned to permit PARAMOUNT LOGO segue
003 Overlaid with music from the isloated score from the ATOMIC BOMB MOVIE
004 Custom titles over the completely new opening sequence
005 Seuge to sequence from the ATOMIC BOMB MOVIE establishing the period and the Russiona threat overlaid with new custom titles.
006 All of the opening to the Original is removed as is the Rock n' roll sequence leading to the conflict at the gate which forms part of the new title sequence.
007 Continus to the Mac/Indy Russian confrontation which is trimmed and has dialogue removed and re-arranged.
008 Refernce to age removed from sequence.
009 Mac's comments are re arranged to correct a continuity error in the theatrical release.
010 Some of Indys hamfisted lines are removed.
011 Russian Punch to Indy removed
012 Russian line about "looking for stuff" removed....so begins needless exposition or crummy lines...(hard to think a Russian army officer in the 50's would use such a colloquialism)
013 Spalkos intro trimmed (we get her name later in the post nuke briefing). She need s to be a little more menacing and not so comedic.
014 Spalkos nonsense about awards and psychic over exposition removed as is pshchic door opening (perrrleeaaaasse). This laso removes a later problem when she doe not forsee Oxleys Autowriting!!!
015 Warehouse sequence trimmed removing initial gunpoweder chase and significantly tightened up to not make Indy too old.
016 removing excessive magnetised schtick since it makes no sense that the guns are not attracted but lamps in rafters are!!!. WHOA!
017 Mac shot looking onto corpse opening removed and replaced with Indy shot to set up punch
018 Corpse bag opening deleted (we do not need to see the Aliens....EVER!!! NEVER!!! COMPRENDE!!)
019 Gun stand off trimmed removing Mac closeup
020 Indy reaction removed as is gun raising by russian
021 reference to Spying and the Russians removed. Fine that they are friends....for now. We get the OOS CIA think at the de-brief in about 10 min time....
022 The obvious "overdub" of Mac loosing at cards removed. Too patronising to the Audience and it makes Mac meaner and more deliberate which makes the redemption sweeter and the later reveal (IN 10 min again, be patient).
023 Shots reinserted to allow for guards re-aiming
024 Line about "I Like IKE" removed. Lord, Indy was never that full blooded a patriot or corny!
025 Fight at the sled is again tightened up and the russian burn up unified so the FX is not split, but ride is untouched
026 Prarie dog removed.
027 segues to shortened nuclear town sequence in which Indy is not chased by Russians (enhanced with Indy Scores).
028 Town blast trimmed and reorderred including removal of Russians outrunning blast. The scene is also score with Music now.
029 Indy walking up to watch nuclear cloud also removed as are the Prarie dogs, a few FLYING FRIDGE shots, and dialogue replacement for segue that follows
030 Segue to base score enhanced,
031 Initial interogation with Fed goons removed and starts when Spalko's file dropped on desk.
032 Last Fed Goon line removed...its an Indy film, not a pantomime. This sequence is the only scene where the original colour is untouched.
033 2 lines from Indys chat with college friend trimmed at his home.
034 Conversation with Mutt in diner is trimmed (which also correct a continuity error when the Mustard is knocked over).
035 Chase removed university drive thru and ends at the banner collapse. Frankly it drags on a bit a nd is a touch boring.
036 Grave robbers and crap lines removed and score enhanced (can't bring myself to type them. Watch them on the edit EXTRAS)
037 Mutts fall re-editted.
038 "You're a teacher" line removed...it comes again later
039 CGI scorpinons are removed
040 Indy's dialogue with Mac trimmed in camp
041 Spalko's over exposition about the skull is trimmed and shots re-arrange to facilitate audio fix
042 Indy punching Mac and breaking his nose cut at this point. Funnier if pay off is delayed.
043 Indy/Marion arguing trimmed
044 Spalo's autowriting line cut...needless and patronising (sequence and audio re-ordered to accomodate the change) PLUS she is PSCYHIC so how could she miss this!!!!
045 "Three times it drops" Oxley line and Indy responses cut since this edit drops once....yes once...it was boring when we all saw it the first time, but shots use from all 3 drops.
046 Marions trust me stuff, all the CGI ants and monkeys in the earlier chase, and remaining footaged significantly tightened up with major aerial panning shots removed throughout.
047 Quick sand trimmed and dialogue referring to fear of snakes and "its slimey" removed.
048 Russian on lorries line to stop arguing cut.
049 Chase thru jungle is trimmed to increase pace and tension, kept tighter, removing repetitious fight moves
050 Needles to say the monkeys are gone but key pieces of sequence kept to permit Mutt to get to Spalko's car.
051 Cliff edge also trimmed, goes on TOO long
052 End of chase trimmed and on foot running is shortened.
053 Indy fighting the Russian by the ants removed as is
054 all the CGI ant attacks
055 Russsians climbing down the cliff is also deleted as redeundant
056 thus no flip back of the tree,
057 no dropping three times on the waterfalls (why did Spielberg not tell Lucas to cool these excessive beats)
058 waterfall end is also trimmed removing the bickering and score enhancing the discovery of the entrance.
059 Marions Theme added after falls. The marriage at the end doe not have a sufficient romantic preamble in the film. This adds to it and I used the Marion device 3 time more.
060 Added The "Well of Souls" here to bring out the "we are on the money" now.
061 No real change from here until after they land in the water where again I use the Marion and Ell of sould motifs.
062 Massive change to the SPFX as Spalko no longer encounters the aliens which have been removed.
063 To faciltate this change a new 5 new effects are added, light bleeding, to create a more etheral feel consistent with the previous movies and a new segue to her dintgration.
064 There is then a chnge to Macs death as well which is no longer split.
065 Deleted Mac rooting around the cave too early, Sequence needs tightening.
066 Climatic water effect and gears enhanced with music.
067 Once on the surface the sequence is completely reworked to removed the UFO and falling rocks.
068 Dialogues is trimmed to increase the sense of awe
069 From the wedding the film plays out as normal with tweaked credits.
SCORE ENHANCEMENTS: All cues taken from the 5 disc extended edition box set CD
13:57 Track 7 Father and Son reunite - Last Crusade
16:10/16:29 Track 3/6 X Marsk the spot segues into Journery to Austria - Last Crusade
35:38 Track 15 Oxley's Dilema - Crystal Skull
1:07:20 Track 10 The Jungle Chase - Crystal Skull
1:08:04 Track 11 The Wrong Choice - Last Crusade segues with
1:08:53 Track 14 Marion's Theme - Raiders
1:09:04 Track 05 Washington Men - Raiders
1:17:31 Track 17 Marion's Theme/The Crate - Raiders
1:27:39 Track 16 Ants - Crystal Skull
EASTER EGG: Some side by side shots from Trinity and Dr Jones. The last shot is AWESOME
reave - NO.
What? We who? Not allowed?

I don't understand.
Very, very interesting list of cuts. I think we're actually on the same page with many of them (in intent if perhaps not actual execution), and I'm really curious to see how your reworked versions look. I too am using bits of the box set for re-scoring, as well as lesser-known tracks from other classic-era JW soundtracks, and I'm looking forward to hearing your new takes on the scenes too :)
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