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Slumberland - Episode II and III

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Episode II: THE GATHERING OF THE STORM

by Slumberland
What is it about? This fan edit of George Lucas's second Star Wars prequel subtly trimms conversations and actions. A lot of babbling has been removed.
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original film name: Star Wars: Episode Two - Atack of the Clones
film studio name :20th Century Fox / Lucas Films

Date Edit Was Released :2006

Amount of time added/cut: 25 minutes short to the original

Cuts removed/added/extended :

* too many to mention, no scene was left unharmed

Conceptual improvements/advancements of edit over original:

I know, I know... another fan edit. It seemed like a good excuse to teach myself Final Cut, and while I've heartily enjoyed many of the prequel edits I've seen, there would often be something either left in or in some cases
added which would leave me scratching my head. I did my edit of Episode II in something of a vacuum, but was amazed to discover I had made some of the exact same choices as others did (i.e. Magfan, The Phantom Editor and even
Trooperman). For example, my elevator conversation between Anakin and Obi-Wan is almost exactly like The Phantom Editor's, though I only recent checked out his version, looking for things to steal, as it were. And in re-shaping the romance of Ep. II, I came to a similar conclusion as Trooperman and went from the telekinetic fruit scene straight into the kiss.
My version of the aborted kiss is somewhat like The Phantom Editor's, but at the risk of sounding smug, I think my musical transitions are better coming out of that scene.

Anyway, my primary philosophy going forward with this edit was that if you make everyone talk about half as much, you lose no crucial information and gain lots of needed momentum. So while many of the larger changes will be evident upon watching, there are also many instances where conversations and actions have been subtly trimmed.

I always liked the Obi-Wan story in Ep. II, and even have a soft spot in my heart for Dex and his over-accessorized diner (I can hear you navigating away now... just roll with me). My primary beef with this chapter, like so many others, was with the love story between Anakin and Padme. I attempted to make it as simple as possible, so here's the crux: Anakin loves Padme, and Padme would love Anakin, but she still thinks of him as a kid. That's it. That's the whole arc. It's Padme realizing that the little boy from Tatooine has become an exceptional adult, and their bond is sealed as she watches him suffer through the death of his mother (which is a more internal process for Anakin in my cut, as you'll see). Of course, that's tricky, as there was very little of that "exceptional adult" to be seen in the theatrical cut of AOTC, but I think in making him less talkative and focusing on his acts of bravery, you can sort of get there.

Here's a general, but in no way complete, list of changes. This version is about 25 minutes shorter than the theatrical/DVD release:

-The coruscant arrival and assassination attempt are trimmed up. Some shots have been removed, and the handmaiden doesn't say "I've failed you, Senator", much like most AOTC edits. I did leave in the "I'm sorry", if only because having her head go limp too quickly doesn't feel right to me. I don't know what she's apologizing for, perhaps not sussing out the
assassination plan, perhaps 'cause her super-duper reflective ship blew up, who knows. There are certain things I'll let go for the sake of rhythm.

I also left in Typho's "I guess there was no danger after all." I'm aware of The Phantom Editor's 'Friday the 13th' analogy, but just because it's a stock device doesn't mean it doesn't work. When I watched his version, the shot of Typho ambling up breathing heavy without some sort of statement just didn't feel right to me. Personal choice. I also took out that weird
intermediate CU of Padme when Typho tries to get here to leave. It was so obviously shot on a different day.

-Palpatine's office begins right with Palpy talking about systems threatening to secede, into "do you really think it will come to war?" This scene is a lot shorter, with several common changes such as removing Yoda's excellent but poorly placed line about warm feelings in his heart. Yoda's rection shot which used to accompany Palp's finishing of Padme's sentence not goes over his initial suggestion that Obi-Wan guard her life. He never finishes her sentence here... that always felt off to me. Padme generally puts up less of a fight in this version but voices her complaints later to Obi-Wan. An example of something that's not really THAT interesting (Padme's willfullness) that they still felt the need to hammer home four or five times. One and a half does it for me.

-No gundarks for Obi-Wan and Ani. This scene is trimmed up quite a bit, with "we will not go through this again" moved up earlier to match the lip movements of and replace Obi's "we will not exceed our mandate"... stuff like that. The scene wipes away before Anakin can whine to Jar-Jar.

-The second attempt on Padme's life is edited a bit differently. The scene of Zam putting the worms into the probe is cut, though she still receives them from Jango. The muffled dialogue does not carry over to the shots of Padme sleeping, and a bit of the Anakin-Kenobi conversation is placed after the worms arrive, in an attempt to stretch the time and build suspense.

-Speeder Chase... no funny aliens yelling at Kenobi, no power couplings, Anakin's dialogue is trimmed considerably, and Obi-Wan's chiding of Anakin when they "lose" Zam is a lot shorter.

-In the Cantina, the "death sticks" scene is cut. Ahmed and Lucas girl are out. They walk in, look around, then Obi-Wan says "go and find him". The 'him' was taken from a later scene with Obi, Mace and Yoda, then pitch shifted down a touch to match the inflection. They don't know it's a she. No shape shifter stuff either. When Zam get the dart in the neck, I had someone do a little ADR for a death croak. I'm tired of huttese curses.

-Jedi Council scene is a bit shorter, but no real information lost.

-Anakin/Palp's scene ends after the word "invincible". I was also tired of people telling other people what kind of Jedi they foresaw they would become, a la Qui-Gon/Kenobi in the swamp in TPM. Show me, don't tell me.

-Padme's apartment ends after she tell's Anakin "you've grown up."

-Anakin/Padme begins later, with Obi-Wan promising Padme he'd get to the bottom of it. I kept "at least we have R2 with us". A harmless little moment of levity between Anakin and Padme. I like it. So sue me.

-Yep, I kept Dex's diner, but it begins with Obi-Wan getting up from the booth to meet Dex, so you lose the lame kiss-my-grits waitress robot, aswell as the reference to whatever juice it was that Obi-Wan was so eager to drink. Sounded like Jamba Juice to me. Obi-Wan says "hello Dex" when his back is to the camera and he's hugging the foul creature. Their ensuing talk is a bit shorter too.

-There's no scene of Mace, Obi and Yoda talking. No deleted Mace/Obi scene either. If there's one image from the prequels I got tired of fast, it's two people in robes walking side by side and talking solemnly.

-Yoda and the Younglings remains, but I tightened it up as best I could. Is it just me, or does Liam take forever to answer? Not anymore. I also kept this scene to help set up the slaughter in Ep. III.

-The scene where Ani and Padme discuss forbidden love over cafeteria food is gone. One problem I ran into with my choices overall is that the idea of Anakin potentially being expelled for his relationship with Padme is emphasized to a far lesser degree. There's Obi-Wan's line before the speeder chase about Anakin's thoughts betraying him... "you've made a commitment to the Jedi Order... a commitment not easily broken" and whatnot. Truth is, the whole "keep it on the down low" plotline bored me to death. I'm depending a lot on that line from Obi-Wan to carry things through to their obviously
secret marriage in episode III, and that may be stretching it, but worse comes to worst I feel like I can re-iterate things like that in a revised crawl for Ep. III if need be.

-Anakin meeting the family is back, baby. I like that scene in the kitchen.

-The packing scene is not included.

-The order of scenes and intercutting between Kamino and Naboo is changed around a bit. Obi-Wan's business with the Kaminoans is largely unchanged.

Back on Naboo, Anakin and Padme have the picnic. The scene ends after Padme accuses Anakin of making fun of her and he laughs. "I'd be much too frightened to tease a senator" is gone. What a weird line.

-Jango and Obi-Wan's first meeting is altered just a bit to speed up the pace.

-As mentioned earlier, the fruit eating scene leads right into the kiss scene on the balcony. The line about Obi-Wan getting grumpy is gone. The near kiss by the water starts as they get to the railing. It's pretty much wordless. It's also been color corrected to approximate day-for-night. Itlooks okay, especially if you convince yourself it's about 8pm and not 11pm.
It certainly holds up well to the day-for-night stuff in a movie like Jaws. Ah, simpler days. They don't kiss as long here as they do in the original cut.

-There is no fireplace scene. The day-for-night balcony scene functionally replaces it.

-Jango and Obi-Wan fight is pretty much unchanged. Never had beef with that.

-Anakin's nightmare is gone. I'm not interested in any of that superimposition dream sequence type stuff. She mentions it, that's enough for me. The scene the next morning is trimmed up as well. So many long pauses... I couldn't get all of them.

-I kept the asteroid chase, but removed some of the dialogue that bugged me, i.e. "this is why I hate flying" and Boba's snickering. You know, the usual stuff.

-Tatooine. Lots of changes here. No "okey-dokey" robot. Watto doesn't drop the spanner with that 'boing' noise. Most importantly, there's no interruption in Anakin's search for his mother. It wipes right from him talking to the Jawa to him on the cliff. Shmi's death is also quicker.

After Anakin freaks out, it doesn't iris wipe to Yoda lamenting about how Skywalker is in pain. We know that, we just saw it. And I always found it strange, the conceit that Yoda knew about Skywalker's anguish and yet they never reach out to him and continue to keep him at arms length. Was there ever a conversation about that "terrible pain" when Yoda and Anakin found themselves in the same room? In Lucas's world, I bet there wasn't. I'd rather assume Yoda doesn't know what happened.

Here, Anakin's slaughter instead iris wipes to Obi-Wan ascending the steps on Geonosis and discovering Dooku and his confederates. The first part where he sees them walking through a hall is cut... he simply finds them all at the conference table.

-Anakin brings his mother back. Obi-Wan sends Anakin a message to re-transmit. There's a much shorter funeral (Anakin never drops to his knees and grabs the dirt... he just "misses her so much"), interrupted by R2 with the transmission.

I took out the "I slaughtered them" confession to Padme entirely. The frustration with Obi-Wan seemed too forced... I think there's plenty of REAL reason for Anakin/Kenobi conflict when Ep. III comes around. His confession also made him way too unappealing in my eyes for Padme to then fall for him. Obviously, you lose the "I will be able to stop people from dying" statement, but I always found that WAY too expository. By the time Ep III rolls around, we still get it. He lost his mother. He doesn't want to lose Padme. I think it was overdone in the original cut and done awkwardly to boot.

The added benefit of removing this scene, is that when Palpatine mentions Anakin's mother and the sandpeople at the beginning of Ep. III, it says something that he was able to share that with his mentor but not with his wife.

-Anakin and Padme in the little ship leaving for Geonosis... I cut out a bit of Anakin's whining. Unfortunately, that's really all he does in this scene. Still, it's better.

-Things are generally untouched for a while here... Jar Jar sells out the republic, Dooku tempts Obi-Wan (a scene I always liked if only for Lee's performance), etc.

-Anakin and Padme arrive on Geonosis. C-3PO never leaves the ship... a common edit at this point. Sections of the factory scene are gone, i.e. the weird shot where Anakin does a downward thrust with the heel of his saber but is only hitting thin air. R2 jets remain. Anakin's line "Obi-Wan is gonna kill me" does not.

-Arena love pledge goes as such:
Anakin: Don't be afraid.
Padme: I'm not afraid to die.
(Anakin looks at her, questioningly)
Padme: I love you.
Anakin: (disbelieving, she's already rejected his advances) What are you talking about?
Padme: I truly, deeply love you... and before we die I want you to know...

Not perfect, but it passes much quicker. And you lose the terrible "I've been dying a little bit each day" line, not mention Anakin's "but I thought we had decided not to fall in love" and so on. Have you ever seen a love story where the word "love" is used more than in AOTC? They're constantly saying it. I tried to take it out until her pledge.

-The Arena battle isn't that different. I always liked the monsters and the funny little Harryhausen homages with Obi-Wan hopping around. The sight of Portman's bare midriff doesn't displease me, even if the means by which it's
shown is a little suspect. And you know what? I like Mace's "this party's over" line. A little colloquial and modern, perhaps, but even Han's "then I'll see you in hell!" felt wrong ever since I was 10 and could ponder the existence of hell in the Star Wars universe. Plus, when you step back, Dooku is overseeing a dumb little, Batman-villain-style execution party out there on that backwater planet, and Mace's line seems like a funny way of acknowledging that.

Some of the Jedi in the battle annoyed me. There have been a few cuts.

Jango's pistol twirl is gone, if only because the footage of Dooku turning back to the battle looks like it was reversed digitally.

-Leaving the arena and moving out to the open battlefield... the two instances of Dooku in the Geonisian war room have been combined into one. Dooku walks in, the Neimodians say how the Jedi have assembled a huge army, they must get the ships back into space (this line has been pitch shifted back up a tad... they were clearly trying to mask the fact that they didn't have the original voice actor for this line, but it still sounds better with less of an effect on it), then Dooku talks about his master and the republic's treachery, and the alien dude hands him the plans. I cut around the death star hologram a bit so it's less obvious until Dooku fires up his palm pilot.

-For a while I tried to leave out Padme's "getting up" moment, and just had her show up after the duel, assuming you could use your imagination, but I ended up putting it back in. It trims the beginning moans off the scene, one of her 'no's, and her silly run, so it happens VERY quickly. If all else fails, get through it quickly... you should see my edit of Otoh Gunga.

-The duel between Anakin and Dooku is trimmed up a bit. About half as much of the colored light fight in the dark, some shots were reversed to increase visual logic, and the shot before Anakin gets his arm sliced is slightly different, as the move Dooku made to get himself in position to get Anakin's arm made NO sense in the theatrical cut... it just came out of nowhere.

-Dooku throws one fewer piece of debris at Yoda. We get it. Yoda doesn't hop all over the walls to no effect.

-From there on out, it's pretty much intact. I trimmed up the Dooku/Sidious talk ever so slightly just to speed it up. Old people. There you have it. I really wanted to see what I could do with the footage provided, and I'm happy with the result. Everyone's got their own opinions, but I do believe that there are at least a couple people out there for whom this edit will really work.

The running time is 110 minutes, down from 142 in the original cut.

Initial release will be single layer, but a dual layer might coming soon.

Sound is stereo mix. I don't have the home theater setup to take advantage of 5.1, but maybe when I get one down the road I'll re-export the project. It's just a lot of trouble for something I don't really care about... yet.

DVD layout and features:

1. Static menu.
2. Chapter Stops.

persons involved: Slumberland

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Episode III - THE FALL OF THE REPUPLIC

by Slumberland
What is it about? This fan edit of George Lucas's second Star Wars prequel subtly trimms conversations and actions. A lot of babbling has been removed.
member ratings: 1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (2 votes, average: 4.5 out of 5)
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original film name: Star Wars: Episode Three - Revenge of the Sith
film studio name :20th Century Fox / Lucas Films

Date Edit Was Released :2006

Cuts removed/added/extended :

* too many to mention, no scene was left unharmed

Conceptual improvements/advancements of edit over original:

The Galactic Republic is crumbling under attacks by Count Dooku, the
ruthless

Sith Lord. War ravages the galaxy, with no end in sight. In a daring move, General Grievous, the cyborg leader of the Separatist droid army, has swept into Coruscant and kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine, leader of the Galactic Senate.
As the Separatists attempt to flee with their valuable hostage, two Jedi Knights lead a desperate mission to rescue the captive Chancellor...

This fan edit of George Lucas\'s third and final Star Wars prequel offers a streamlined take on Anakin Skywalker\'s fall from grace, and the subsequent birth of Darth Vader. Notable changes include an abridged rescue of the Chancellor aboard General Grievous\'s ship, edits to all scenes involving Anakin and
Padme including the complete excision of their balcony scene, the removal of
redundant or unnecessary dialogue in an effort to increase momentum, and the
jettisoning of the medical droid\'s \'will to live\' explanation.

Few scenes have been left untouched.

Special thanks to the crew at originaltrilogy.com, Rikter, and especially my friends for their interest in the project.

And to my dad for instilling in me a frighteningly single-minded love for
Star Wars.
DVD layout and features:

1. Static menu.
2. Chapter Stops.


Maybe downloadable from Fanedit.info
 
Torrent on Demonoid
 
Sorry I had a problem again but I've managed to figure out where I was going wrong.

At least I'm getting better at this sort of thing.
 
Bingowings said:
Sorry I had a problem again but I've managed to figure out where I was going wrong.

At least I'm getting better at this sort of thing.

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I had a problem trying to get the download to work and posted a query which I retracted when I figured out what I was doing wrong...teething problems as I'm new to using JD...sorry for the added confusion.
 
May as well list all 3.

I = 1:49:07
II = 1:49:57
III = 2:08:42
 
hi im having a issue i downloaded Ep2 and it's asking for a password but I do not see any on the site here so far :(
 
Would it be possible for someone to reseed the torrent for Slumberland's Episode II? I really like his philosophical approach to the edits -- preserving most of the scenes, but cutting out all the garbage that makes them unwatchable. Thank you!
 
Episode III is now available on Megashares via .info.
 
According to IMDb, Moulin Rouge used the word "love" and all its variants 143 times, and I definitely know that's more times than Episode II.
 
And this is relevant why?
 
[MENTION=31915]IvanLV[/MENTION] please read Using This Site. It's full of useful information that will get us all off on the right foot. This site has many rules in place to protect itself and its users. Should you ever need a reminder look no further: General Rules and Own the Source Rule. If you do not understand any of these rules send a private message to an admin for further details.
 
Ep 3 is once again available on MS via info.
 
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