Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: Covenant Edition

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All I can say is wow! Outstanding edit here. After watching this movie in theatre, I never would have thought I could rate this as being close to as good as Raiders. The pacing, the action now, the humor, THIS is now a Indiana Jones movie. Never in a million years would I think I could have a blast with this movie. Thankyou from the bottom of my heart for improving this turd and actually making it a very fun movie. Far too many cuts to mention, I loved them all. People watch it!

Enjoyment: Original: D+
Enjoyment: Covenant Edition: A-

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(Updated: January 26, 2014)
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some things are be left alone, and the Indiana jones trilogy is perhaps the best example. after a long period the fourth film for me like many was a disappointment. though my own personal expectations weren't too high after seeing what George Lucas did with the star wars prequels. and so as with the star wars prequels many faneditors have tired to give the fourth Indiana jones film a make over

TM2YC edit is solid attempt in trying to improve the film, gone is the nuke town to which coined the phrase 'nuke the fridge'. to be honest i didn't mind this sequence it gave us a iconic image of indy standing near the mushroom cloud and is no more plausible to other events that have taken place within the series. that being said the removal here is done well and moves the story along at a quicker pace.

one of the main issues with the original film was the character of mac and his continued flipping from one side to the other. this character is poorly written and i don't feel it's a good performance from the normally solid ray winstone. the editing is done really well though his character has little to do towards the end of the film. it is also obvious that it's his hand that pointing the gun at the end but a editor can only work with what he has.

the only thing that stood out as being awkward was the car/cliff jump. the editing here seemed to imply that the cliff wasn't so high and wasn't that great a risk. also the pit/snake scene perhaps should have been left alone. it's a terrible scene to begin with and only serves to remind us of Indiana's fever of snakes. i feel with some edits perhaps editors try and change to much and sometimes some things should just be left alone (no matter how bad they maybe)

but looking at the cut-list there are a lot of changes made all of which are done to a very high standard. overall i enjoyed this version more than the original but it's still a average film within a excellent film series.

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Owner's reply January 26, 2014

Yes I agree, the Snake and the Tree/Jeep jump removals aren't really good enough but I couldn't except a big rubber snake and that awful Jeep scene remaining in a cut I wanted to watch, so yeah I pushed it on those two spots.

Check out TMBTM's new edit for a much better dispatching of the Jeep jump's silliness. He resorted to some clever and seemless FX work (Which is way beyond my skills or software).

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Like most - KoTCS - I try to make believe it doesn't exist. There's no fourth film in my world. I'd watched a couple edits and they were still full of issues I hated. So I noted the film was on last night and thought, isn't there a new edit out there? Which is getting the hightest ratings?

Turns out it's TM2YC.

Had high hopes for this edit and I have to say, overall, this is a great improvement over the original film. Massive sequence removals just go to prove that they weren't needed at all. (I've always hated Boomtown) - but the removals of interrogation and university were the most bold and totally not missed.

I completely forgot about the goafers. Didn't even notice!

Edit wise, I noticed nothing abrupt or jarring. Picture is good. There may have been a few audio transitions that were a little notable, but then I'm looking for those things.

The film does feel a little short now and moves at quickened pace, perhaps a little faster than the first three Indy films. There's no pondering moments or pause for reflection, but then that wasn't the editors intention. I enjoyed it, but it won't get more than an 8, as I don't like the story that much. I will say that I though the ending was a little abrupt and of course because it's not standard for post credits sequences in Indy films - I didn't know it was there. (BTW - why does Jim Broadbent get a credit???)

If you're looking for an edit of this 4th installment of Indy that you won't hate - you can't go wrong here. Well done.

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My wife and I really enjoyed to watch this edit. It's no more a pain to look at it. All the things that were too much or not funny are removed. It's now a really good Indy movie. Thanks a lot for making this edit. I enjoyed the movie so much that I made a french 5.1 soundtrack for it. If someone is interested, please go to the discussion forum.
The video quality is good, but I found that it miss a little bit of colors.
Audio is good, but only in 2.0.

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Owner's reply November 02, 2013

If anybody wants this excellent French soundtrack PM me for the time being. I'll see about adding it to the edit. - Thanks to Marvins for creating it!

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(Updated: September 03, 2013)
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This is an exemplary fan edit. Although perhaps some movies might be converted into a far more successful narrative, such a feat is not possible when it comes to movies more fundamentally problematic. But when it comes to bringing a movie in a franchise back to the quality of it's predecessors, well, I can't imagine much more that could be done than Bring me to your cinema's work on this cut.

The movies overdone saturation has been removed. And although it was quite noticable for me and at first felt strange, it was nothing once I got used to it. And it certainly helps make the movie feel more like an actual sequel to the 80's originals.

The best part of this edit is the cuts. They are so seamless that I must have missed 90% of them.
So seamless, I even forgot that the failed whip jump at the start was even cut.

But the attempt to remove the cg gopher at the start didn't work for me. The matte felt too out of place, and not realistic. I would rather have had the silly gopher than something that took me out of the movie.

The First cuts I noticed were some dialogue cuts, with no issues. Then came the actual excising of whole scenes. The first of which I noticed was the removal of the atomic bomb scenes and interrogation. Indy now simply stumbles on civilization, shining in the distance. Then he is seen on a train.

This. is. perfect. In the original movie we were confused by the train segment. Why was indy there? How could mutt find him? Besides that, the terrible, terrible acting of the FBI people is now gone, thank heavens. And altough his dialogue with mac still references it, Indy is no longer directly stated to be some war hero. (which is overdoing it, and pushing Indy even further into mary sue territory)

Now, it makes perfect sense! He's on a train back to wherever the college is, where he works. Sure, Mutt must have employed some detective work in finding out he was there at that time, and there's no difference in the logic in this between the versions, but I can accept it in any case.

The pacing of the movie was excellent. I never thought that a part dragged on too long.

I also like that Take me to your cinema also doesn't dislike Mutt as much as some fans, and we don't lose the fencing scene which I admittedly always enjoyed.

Lastly, there's the removal of the live alien on screen, at the end of the movie. I was looking forward to seeing the changes, because I didn't realize any way in which it could be done and still look professional. But it was just perfect. This scene cemented the fact that this is my go-to version of this movie.

Although I must say, I downloaded the .iso dvd version, and expected more quality than what I received. It looked much more like an .avi. Still, perhaps that is more of an issue to others than to me.

In the end I must say that this could probably have salvaged the movie, in the eyes of the fans. If it had been the version we saw.

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