Pandora
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Original Release Date:
2009
Original Running Time:
162 minutes
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Fanedit Running Time:
145 minutes
Time Cut:
17 minutes
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Synopsis:
This edit removes the subplot of Jake acting as a traitor to the Na’vi from the plot of Avatar, along with numerous other cuts, trims, and edits to improve the film.
Intention:
To remove the subplot of Jake acting as a traitor to the Na’vi from the plot of Avatar, along with numerous other cuts, trims, and edits to improve the film.
Editing Details:
- Complete Removal of the subplot of Jake acting as a spy for the military behind the scientists and Na’vi & the Na’vi rejecting Jake after his reveal as a spy.
(This was my biggest point of contention in the story – I hated and I mean absolutely HATED the subplot of Jake acting as a spy/double agent to both the scientists and Na’vi. It serves no purpose other than creating forced and false drama for the characters (it was this element of the movie that reminded me the most of Fox’s abysmal animated garbage, Ferngully: The Last Rainforest…) and giving a contrived reason for the Na’vi and Neytiri to reject Jake. What shocked me is just how easily this subplot can be completely removed from the film and with just a bit of editing, there’s no affect from it left on the main characters)
(This was my biggest point of contention in the story – I hated and I mean absolutely HATED the subplot of Jake acting as a spy/double agent to both the scientists and Na’vi. It serves no purpose other than creating forced and false drama for the characters (it was this element of the movie that reminded me the most of Fox’s abysmal animated garbage, Ferngully: The Last Rainforest…) and giving a contrived reason for the Na’vi and Neytiri to reject Jake. What shocked me is just how easily this subplot can be completely removed from the film and with just a bit of editing, there’s no affect from it left on the main characters)
Cuts and Additions:
Cut list:
- Cut down on some of Jake’s monologue in the film’s opening
- Cut the company men telling Jake that he’ll “get very good pay”
- Cut the “fresh meat” and “dinner on wheels” jokes by the marines
- Cut Quaritch’s “You’re not in Kansas anymore” line
- Cut Quaritch’s lines after he says “Pandora rules” and Jake’s monologue to the Colonel
- Cut Norm telling Jake “This is your Avatar now”
- Cut Jake trying to be “science smart” for the camera in his first video diary
- Cut Norm introducing Grace by name to the audience offscreen
- Cut Max telling Jake when to meet for Avatar training and to use “big words” in front of Grace
- Cut Grace’s “Oops” when she kicks the cup out of the way of Selfridge’s golf ball
- Removed all references of the name “Unobtainium” from the film
- Cut Jake poking at the spongy lining of the linkup capsule
- Cut Norm telling Jake “They’re gonna put you out”
- Cut the insert “close-up” shot of human Jake’s face reacting to Avatar Jake running in the garden
- Recuts to Jake’s meeting with Quaritch, making him mostly silent as Quaritch explains his need for someone to inform him on the Na’vi
- Cut the grunt’s response to Grace after they land in the forrest
- Cut Grace telling Jake to stand his ground to the Hammerhead
- Cut the majority of Jake’s taunts toward the Hammerhead
- Retinted the scenes of Jake wandering through the forrest and Neytiri watching him in hiding
- Cut the scene of Grace, Norm, and Trudy searching for Jake before they have to return to the Compound
- Cut Neytiri telling Jake for the second time that he’s “like a baby”
- Shorten some of the “long pauses” shots between Neytiri and Tsu’tey after the Na’vi capture Jake
- Cut Jake saying he’s from the “Jarhead Clan”
- Cut the “Clan supper” sequence which introduces Jake in his native clothing and looking like an incompetent ass to the Na’vi
- Cut Jake meeting with Quaritch and Selfridge and getting his assignments for gathering intelligence on the Na’vi
- Cut Jake taunting Norm by saying “Guess who has a date with the Chief’s daughter”
- Cut the insert “Jake’s reaction” shot from the scene of Tsu’tey riding up and telling him to go away
- Cut Jake passing on intel on Na’vi and Hometree to Quaritch and Selfridge
- Cut the line “She knew I was talking with the Colonel” from Jake’s monologue
- Little cuts throughout the “Neytiri trains Jake” montage
- Cut Jake refering to Neytiri’s beliefs as “Treehugger crap”
- Little trim to the shots of the Banshee attacking Jake, to removing visual inconsistencies
- Cut Tsu’tey laughing at Jake nearly falling off the cliff
- Cut Jake and Neytiri laughing outloud after they escape Toruk
- Cut Jake’s remeeting Colonel Quaritch before his Na’vi initiation ceremony
- Cut Jake’s internal monologue after he and Neytiri mate
- Cut Grace’s line of “Needing to muzzle” Quaritch to Selfridge
- Cut Grace’s line of “Needing to understand if you want to coexist with the Na’vi” to Selfridge
- Cut Quaritch’s line of being “So happy, he could give Jake a kiss”
- Cut the end of Quaritch “It’ll be humane” speech, to remove the line “… more or less”
- Completely removed the sequence of Jake explaining to the Na’vi that he was a spy for the military, Neytiri rejecting Jake, and the Clan capturing Jake & Grace and preparing to execute them for their betrayal
- Numerious recuts/edits to the “Hometree Bombing” sequence to remove the “Jake & Grace execution” subplot
- Completely removed Trudy’s presence from the “Hometree Bombing” sequence
- Cut Jake meeting Neytiri with her dead father and her telling him in anger to leave and never come back
- Cut the final scene of the Na’vi fleeing from the “Hometree Bombing” sequence
- Cut Trudy’s reaction shots from Grace getting shot
- Cut Grace’s “I’m a scientist, I don’t believe in fairy tales” line
- Cut the opening of Jake’s monologue after he wakes up in ash-covered wasteland
- Cut Neytiri’s lines after she say’s “I was afraid, Jake…” to Jake
- Several cuts to Quaritch’s lines during the military briefing, to reduce poor dialogue and acting
- Cut Trudy’s “Fricken daisycutters” line, along with some of her reaction shots with her, Jake, & Norm in the moble linkup station
- Numerous little cuts and edits throughout the final battle sequences, to improve pacing, reduce poor dialogue and acting, and remove visual inconsistencies
- Cut the insert “close-up” shot of Trudy’s face before her chopper is blown up by Quaritch
- Cut Jake telling Neytiri “That’s an order!”
- Cut the scene of the Hammerhead stomping onto the mech and the soldier inside screaming
- Cut the shot of Moat looking up from the Tree of Souls at the shuttle bomber
- Little cuts to the “Quaritch VS Neytiri” fight, to remove a few visual inconsistencies
- Cut Jake telling Quaritch “It’s all over”
- Cut Jake telling Quaritch “I knew you were gonna say that”
- Cut the extended shot of Quaritch waiting several moment before ejecting his mech’s cockpit hatch
- Cut Quaritch asking Jake “You think you’re one of them?”
- Cut the “linkup tunnel” shot while human Jake tries to relink with his Avatar
- Cut the final shot of Quaritch’s “death face”
- Removed Jake’s final line “This is Jake Scully signing off”
- Added new title “Pandora” to the end credits
- Added new music score for the end credits: “Oraanu Pi” & “Krosah” by E.S. Posthumus
Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Genre:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
2009
Original Running Time:
162 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
145 minutes
Time Cut:
17 minutes
Additional Links:
Synopsis:
This edit removes the subplot of Jake acting as a traitor to the Na’vi from the plot of Avatar, along with numerous other cuts, trims, and edits to improve the film.
Intention:
To remove the subplot of Jake acting as a traitor to the Na’vi from the plot of Avatar, along with numerous other cuts, trims, and edits to improve the film.
Editing Details:
- Complete Removal of the subplot of Jake acting as a spy for the military behind the scientists and Na’vi & the Na’vi rejecting Jake after his reveal as a spy.
(This was my biggest point of contention in the story – I hated and I mean absolutely HATED the subplot of Jake acting as a spy/double agent to both the scientists and Na’vi. It serves no purpose other than creating forced and false drama for the characters (it was this element of the movie that reminded me the most of Fox’s abysmal animated garbage, Ferngully: The Last Rainforest…) and giving a contrived reason for the Na’vi and Neytiri to reject Jake. What shocked me is just how easily this subplot can be completely removed from the film and with just a bit of editing, there’s no affect from it left on the main characters)
(This was my biggest point of contention in the story – I hated and I mean absolutely HATED the subplot of Jake acting as a spy/double agent to both the scientists and Na’vi. It serves no purpose other than creating forced and false drama for the characters (it was this element of the movie that reminded me the most of Fox’s abysmal animated garbage, Ferngully: The Last Rainforest…) and giving a contrived reason for the Na’vi and Neytiri to reject Jake. What shocked me is just how easily this subplot can be completely removed from the film and with just a bit of editing, there’s no affect from it left on the main characters)
Cuts and Additions:
Cut list:
- Cut down on some of Jake’s monologue in the film’s opening
- Cut the company men telling Jake that he’ll “get very good pay”
- Cut the “fresh meat” and “dinner on wheels” jokes by the marines
- Cut Quaritch’s “You’re not in Kansas anymore” line
- Cut Quaritch’s lines after he says “Pandora rules” and Jake’s monologue to the Colonel
- Cut Norm telling Jake “This is your Avatar now”
- Cut Jake trying to be “science smart” for the camera in his first video diary
- Cut Norm introducing Grace by name to the audience offscreen
- Cut Max telling Jake when to meet for Avatar training and to use “big words” in front of Grace
- Cut Grace’s “Oops” when she kicks the cup out of the way of Selfridge’s golf ball
- Removed all references of the name “Unobtainium” from the film
- Cut Jake poking at the spongy lining of the linkup capsule
- Cut Norm telling Jake “They’re gonna put you out”
- Cut the insert “close-up” shot of human Jake’s face reacting to Avatar Jake running in the garden
- Recuts to Jake’s meeting with Quaritch, making him mostly silent as Quaritch explains his need for someone to inform him on the Na’vi
- Cut the grunt’s response to Grace after they land in the forrest
- Cut Grace telling Jake to stand his ground to the Hammerhead
- Cut the majority of Jake’s taunts toward the Hammerhead
- Retinted the scenes of Jake wandering through the forrest and Neytiri watching him in hiding
- Cut the scene of Grace, Norm, and Trudy searching for Jake before they have to return to the Compound
- Cut Neytiri telling Jake for the second time that he’s “like a baby”
- Shorten some of the “long pauses” shots between Neytiri and Tsu’tey after the Na’vi capture Jake
- Cut Jake saying he’s from the “Jarhead Clan”
- Cut the “Clan supper” sequence which introduces Jake in his native clothing and looking like an incompetent ass to the Na’vi
- Cut Jake meeting with Quaritch and Selfridge and getting his assignments for gathering intelligence on the Na’vi
- Cut Jake taunting Norm by saying “Guess who has a date with the Chief’s daughter”
- Cut the insert “Jake’s reaction” shot from the scene of Tsu’tey riding up and telling him to go away
- Cut Jake passing on intel on Na’vi and Hometree to Quaritch and Selfridge
- Cut the line “She knew I was talking with the Colonel” from Jake’s monologue
- Little cuts throughout the “Neytiri trains Jake” montage
- Cut Jake refering to Neytiri’s beliefs as “Treehugger crap”
- Little trim to the shots of the Banshee attacking Jake, to removing visual inconsistencies
- Cut Tsu’tey laughing at Jake nearly falling off the cliff
- Cut Jake and Neytiri laughing outloud after they escape Toruk
- Cut Jake’s remeeting Colonel Quaritch before his Na’vi initiation ceremony
- Cut Jake’s internal monologue after he and Neytiri mate
- Cut Grace’s line of “Needing to muzzle” Quaritch to Selfridge
- Cut Grace’s line of “Needing to understand if you want to coexist with the Na’vi” to Selfridge
- Cut Quaritch’s line of being “So happy, he could give Jake a kiss”
- Cut the end of Quaritch “It’ll be humane” speech, to remove the line “… more or less”
- Completely removed the sequence of Jake explaining to the Na’vi that he was a spy for the military, Neytiri rejecting Jake, and the Clan capturing Jake & Grace and preparing to execute them for their betrayal
- Numerious recuts/edits to the “Hometree Bombing” sequence to remove the “Jake & Grace execution” subplot
- Completely removed Trudy’s presence from the “Hometree Bombing” sequence
- Cut Jake meeting Neytiri with her dead father and her telling him in anger to leave and never come back
- Cut the final scene of the Na’vi fleeing from the “Hometree Bombing” sequence
- Cut Trudy’s reaction shots from Grace getting shot
- Cut Grace’s “I’m a scientist, I don’t believe in fairy tales” line
- Cut the opening of Jake’s monologue after he wakes up in ash-covered wasteland
- Cut Neytiri’s lines after she say’s “I was afraid, Jake…” to Jake
- Several cuts to Quaritch’s lines during the military briefing, to reduce poor dialogue and acting
- Cut Trudy’s “Fricken daisycutters” line, along with some of her reaction shots with her, Jake, & Norm in the moble linkup station
- Numerous little cuts and edits throughout the final battle sequences, to improve pacing, reduce poor dialogue and acting, and remove visual inconsistencies
- Cut the insert “close-up” shot of Trudy’s face before her chopper is blown up by Quaritch
- Cut Jake telling Neytiri “That’s an order!”
- Cut the scene of the Hammerhead stomping onto the mech and the soldier inside screaming
- Cut the shot of Moat looking up from the Tree of Souls at the shuttle bomber
- Little cuts to the “Quaritch VS Neytiri” fight, to remove a few visual inconsistencies
- Cut Jake telling Quaritch “It’s all over”
- Cut Jake telling Quaritch “I knew you were gonna say that”
- Cut the extended shot of Quaritch waiting several moment before ejecting his mech’s cockpit hatch
- Cut Quaritch asking Jake “You think you’re one of them?”
- Cut the “linkup tunnel” shot while human Jake tries to relink with his Avatar
- Cut the final shot of Quaritch’s “death face”
- Removed Jake’s final line “This is Jake Scully signing off”
- Added new title “Pandora” to the end credits
- Added new music score for the end credits: “Oraanu Pi” & “Krosah” by E.S. Posthumus
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Trusted Reviewer review
1 review
(Updated: October 19, 2013)
Overall rating
8.5
Audio/Video Quality
7.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
Avatar is another James Cameron movie I haven't rewatched in full since the theaters (but I mean you know, it's only been 3 years or so). I highly enjoyed it but every time I try to rewatch it I turn it off about halfway through.
Firstly, I have to say that I watched an XVID AVI version that I don't think was made by the editor. The quality wasn't that great, but since the DVD for this edit isn't currently available, that's what happened. I feel bad rating A/V quality for it since it wasn't made by the editor, but maybe this will help @Q2 and @L8wrtr see my point. Anyway...
The narrative aspects of the edit were great. Nothing felt out of place, no plot holes and whatnot. The editing was great throughout as well. Highly recommended.
Firstly, I have to say that I watched an XVID AVI version that I don't think was made by the editor. The quality wasn't that great, but since the DVD for this edit isn't currently available, that's what happened. I feel bad rating A/V quality for it since it wasn't made by the editor, but maybe this will help @Q2 and @L8wrtr see my point. Anyway...
The narrative aspects of the edit were great. Nothing felt out of place, no plot holes and whatnot. The editing was great throughout as well. Highly recommended.
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Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0(1)
Audio Editing
10.0(1)
Visual Editing
10.0(1)
Narrative
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Enjoyment
9.4(5)
(Updated: August 31, 2012)
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10.0
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10.0
July 26, 2010 @ 7:23 pm
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*This rating was given before reviews were required*
(Updated: August 31, 2012)
Overall rating
8.0
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N/A
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Enjoyment
8.0
June 28, 2010 @ 8:42 pm
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*This rating was given before reviews were required*
(Updated: August 31, 2012)
Overall rating
10.0
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N/A
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N/A
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N/A
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N/A
Enjoyment
10.0
December 27, 2010 @ 6:58 am
I never liked the subplot betrayal bit. The removal of it didn’t hurt this movie one bit, and did it a great service. It’s been said that this is Dances With Wolves in Space, but I see it more of a Blue Pocahontas.
Very Well Done. 10/10
I never liked the subplot betrayal bit. The removal of it didn’t hurt this movie one bit, and did it a great service. It’s been said that this is Dances With Wolves in Space, but I see it more of a Blue Pocahontas.
Very Well Done. 10/10
(Updated: August 31, 2012)
Overall rating
9.0
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N/A
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N/A
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Narrative
N/A
Enjoyment
9.0
July 23, 2010 @ 5:42 pm
I just watched this and wow. This is probably one of the best fan-edits I’ve seen yet.
While the original is far too bloated and dragging, I enjoyed every minute of JasonN’s edit. I was especially thankful for the removal of “Unobtanium”. Jeez, whoever thought of that should be shot.
All the cuts were smooth and none of the scenes were missed. The only thing that WAS missing is violence but that is of course not your fault. This movie would have been so much better if the final battle was more like the one from Rambo.
If the edit was in 1080p it would be hands my favorite fan-edit ever but as it is now, it still shares the top with the likes of Batman Begins – The Dark Cut, Adywan’s Ep. IV and War of the Stars.
Thank you, JasonN.
I just watched this and wow. This is probably one of the best fan-edits I’ve seen yet.
While the original is far too bloated and dragging, I enjoyed every minute of JasonN’s edit. I was especially thankful for the removal of “Unobtanium”. Jeez, whoever thought of that should be shot.
All the cuts were smooth and none of the scenes were missed. The only thing that WAS missing is violence but that is of course not your fault. This movie would have been so much better if the final battle was more like the one from Rambo.
If the edit was in 1080p it would be hands my favorite fan-edit ever but as it is now, it still shares the top with the likes of Batman Begins – The Dark Cut, Adywan’s Ep. IV and War of the Stars.
Thank you, JasonN.
(Updated: August 31, 2012)
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
N/A
Enjoyment
10.0
June 20, 2010 @ 2:11 am
JasonN has shocked me. How? I was very surprised on how easily the sub-plot can be removed from this movie.
I saw this movie when the first week it hit iMax and honestly just didn’t care for it all that much. Didn’t hate it, but didn’t really like it either. I was then convinced by my brother-in-law to D/L this edit and watch it with him. Sort of “give it another try” event. I just don’t think this movie translates well to tv (even on his 55″ l.e.d.).
JasonN does a very effective job of getting rid of the horrible sub-plot but I still think so much more fat could be trimmed from this movie. Both time I have watched “Avatar” I can’t help but to think, “Dances with Wolves” in space.
The edit itself is of the quality that I have come to expect from JasonN. Excellent editing and cuts. No hard points that we could notice.
5/5 for both audio and video. I rated the edit at “10 stars” for the technical aspects; didn’t want to penalize JasonN any stars because I am so ambivalent about the actual movie.
If you haven’t seen “Avatar” before or want to see it again, this is definitely the version to view (verses the store bought version).
I expect that other fan editors will be coming up with their version of this movie soon. I will be interested in what they might do …
JasonN has shocked me. How? I was very surprised on how easily the sub-plot can be removed from this movie.
I saw this movie when the first week it hit iMax and honestly just didn’t care for it all that much. Didn’t hate it, but didn’t really like it either. I was then convinced by my brother-in-law to D/L this edit and watch it with him. Sort of “give it another try” event. I just don’t think this movie translates well to tv (even on his 55″ l.e.d.).
JasonN does a very effective job of getting rid of the horrible sub-plot but I still think so much more fat could be trimmed from this movie. Both time I have watched “Avatar” I can’t help but to think, “Dances with Wolves” in space.
The edit itself is of the quality that I have come to expect from JasonN. Excellent editing and cuts. No hard points that we could notice.
5/5 for both audio and video. I rated the edit at “10 stars” for the technical aspects; didn’t want to penalize JasonN any stars because I am so ambivalent about the actual movie.
If you haven’t seen “Avatar” before or want to see it again, this is definitely the version to view (verses the store bought version).
I expect that other fan editors will be coming up with their version of this movie soon. I will be interested in what they might do …