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Star Wars - Episode III: Revenge of the Sith – The Spence Edit
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Original Movie/Show Title:
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Original Release Date:
2005
Original Running Time:
140 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
120 minutes
Time Cut:
20 minutes
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Synopsis:
This is the attempt to finally give fans of the famous “Phantom Edits” the missing third episode. This is “Revenge of the Phantom”.
Intention:
I still consider The Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom to be the pinnacles of the fanediting idea. Sure, maybe it’s not the best picture/sound quality, but in terms of greatly improving a film, he nailed it on both accounts. Yet, he never did an Episode III edit. There have been some other edits, sure, but none of them really have that feel that his films have. Most prequel edits seem to come to a place of either hatred for the film or over-appreciation of the film, and tend to be unbalanced (this isn’t all of them, and its just my opinion.) Frankly, I haven’t found an ROTS edit that I feel I can put next to those Phantom Editor versions.
So I tried to use his principals and points of view to create a Revenge of the Sith edit I could watch along with Phantom Editor’s prior versions. It won’t feel exactly like a Phantom Editor edit of course, as it’s from my point of view which will always be different, and also he is a much better editor than me. But I feel like I can watch this version and confidently enjoy the film.
So I tried to use his principals and points of view to create a Revenge of the Sith edit I could watch along with Phantom Editor’s prior versions. It won’t feel exactly like a Phantom Editor edit of course, as it’s from my point of view which will always be different, and also he is a much better editor than me. But I feel like I can watch this version and confidently enjoy the film.
Release Information:
DVD
Cuts and Additions:
- Cut little odd bits of dialogue all over the place.
- Cut any lines or scenes that I found redundant.
- Attempted to cut any unnecessary pauses, camera shots, anything that slows down the pace and momentum of the film.
- Cut the buzz droids.
- Cut the missiles sequence to get them to the Invisible Hand faster.
- Removed the first elevator sequence. They get in the elevator and arrive to fight Dooku.
- Removed Palp’s little “Yeah!” thing. Not sure what that was but it’s gone.
- Removed the bit where Dooku drops a piece of scaffold onto Obi-Wan.
- Removed all of R2′s shenanigans.
- Added some music from KOTOR over the Jedi vs. Grievous guards sequence.
- Cut the scene where Yoda gives Anakin advice he never uses or mentions again. Because, well, he never uses it or mentions it again.
- Removed all the awkward “floating head over video game body ” clone trooper sequences.
- Trimmed as much of the squaking from that bird-lizard thing as possible. Drives me nuts!
- Removed Grievous’ line about being trained to use a lightsaber. It’s redundant since two seconds later, he uses a lightsaber.
- Removed the silly Sergio Leone eye close ups from the Obi/Grievous fight.
- Anakin catches onto Palps being a sith lord a little faster. Because, try as Lucas might, Anakin is not retarded.
- Trimmed a little of the Grievous chase scene.
- Palps vs. Jedi sequence has been reworked. Lucas somehow made him seem gymnastic and geriatric at the same time. I lessened both of those factors. Also, the other Jedi don’t go out like bitches. They now seem caught off guard.
- The entire transition to Vader sequence has been trimmed, cut and moved around to the point where I can’t really remember what I actually did. But I can tell you that i feel confident in this version working much better than original version.
- Cut the mission to Mustafar being mentioned 30 bajillion times. Once is enough.
- After Order 66, there’s more or less some sort of cut every 30 seconds. The pacing should’ve been brisk and fast and intense and it wasn’t. So I tried to get that momentum going as much as I could and removed lots of dead weight.
- I cut that weird moment where Anakin’s eyes appear orange. Yeah, I know, it’s a Sith trait, it’s happened before, blah blah blah, but the whole shot just feels like it’s there so they can stick it in the trailer over the Darth Vader theme.
- I cut the entire Obi-Wan/Anakin fight into one giant, tightly paced four minute action sequence. Some of the fight was removed, but it really flows now and is a lot more exciting.
- NO PALPATING YODA FIGHT. Yoda, in my Star Wars world, does not flip around like a monkey with a lightsaber. The only time he uses his saber is to behead the two clone troopers that were going to try and kill him. I like the idea that he uses all his strength to do that, but thats about all he’s capable of at his age.
- I cut all the talking between Anakin and Obi-Wan during the fight. They are Jedi and they are in fighting mode, they aren’t gonna stop and talk about it. I also cut Obi announcing to Anakin he has the high ground. If his mission is to kill Anakin, and he has already said “I will do what I must” why would he announce his advantage? It just makes him appear weak.
- Removed some droid silliness. I’m all for droid silliness, but not at this moment of the film.
- Padme has no longer “lost the will to live” because that always felt like she was saying “F**k you twins, you’re on your own!”
- I redid the whole “Nooooo!” thing. It’s shorter, more clean, and looks better.
- I removed any reference to Qui-Gon and new training and all that stuff. It was half-baked, not very well thought out, and it’s too much new info too late in the film.
- I did not add any deleted scenes into the film, as i didn’t find any of them necessary or particularly helpful.
- Cut any lines or scenes that I found redundant.
- Attempted to cut any unnecessary pauses, camera shots, anything that slows down the pace and momentum of the film.
- Cut the buzz droids.
- Cut the missiles sequence to get them to the Invisible Hand faster.
- Removed the first elevator sequence. They get in the elevator and arrive to fight Dooku.
- Removed Palp’s little “Yeah!” thing. Not sure what that was but it’s gone.
- Removed the bit where Dooku drops a piece of scaffold onto Obi-Wan.
- Removed all of R2′s shenanigans.
- Added some music from KOTOR over the Jedi vs. Grievous guards sequence.
- Cut the scene where Yoda gives Anakin advice he never uses or mentions again. Because, well, he never uses it or mentions it again.
- Removed all the awkward “floating head over video game body ” clone trooper sequences.
- Trimmed as much of the squaking from that bird-lizard thing as possible. Drives me nuts!
- Removed Grievous’ line about being trained to use a lightsaber. It’s redundant since two seconds later, he uses a lightsaber.
- Removed the silly Sergio Leone eye close ups from the Obi/Grievous fight.
- Anakin catches onto Palps being a sith lord a little faster. Because, try as Lucas might, Anakin is not retarded.
- Trimmed a little of the Grievous chase scene.
- Palps vs. Jedi sequence has been reworked. Lucas somehow made him seem gymnastic and geriatric at the same time. I lessened both of those factors. Also, the other Jedi don’t go out like bitches. They now seem caught off guard.
- The entire transition to Vader sequence has been trimmed, cut and moved around to the point where I can’t really remember what I actually did. But I can tell you that i feel confident in this version working much better than original version.
- Cut the mission to Mustafar being mentioned 30 bajillion times. Once is enough.
- After Order 66, there’s more or less some sort of cut every 30 seconds. The pacing should’ve been brisk and fast and intense and it wasn’t. So I tried to get that momentum going as much as I could and removed lots of dead weight.
- I cut that weird moment where Anakin’s eyes appear orange. Yeah, I know, it’s a Sith trait, it’s happened before, blah blah blah, but the whole shot just feels like it’s there so they can stick it in the trailer over the Darth Vader theme.
- I cut the entire Obi-Wan/Anakin fight into one giant, tightly paced four minute action sequence. Some of the fight was removed, but it really flows now and is a lot more exciting.
- NO PALPATING YODA FIGHT. Yoda, in my Star Wars world, does not flip around like a monkey with a lightsaber. The only time he uses his saber is to behead the two clone troopers that were going to try and kill him. I like the idea that he uses all his strength to do that, but thats about all he’s capable of at his age.
- I cut all the talking between Anakin and Obi-Wan during the fight. They are Jedi and they are in fighting mode, they aren’t gonna stop and talk about it. I also cut Obi announcing to Anakin he has the high ground. If his mission is to kill Anakin, and he has already said “I will do what I must” why would he announce his advantage? It just makes him appear weak.
- Removed some droid silliness. I’m all for droid silliness, but not at this moment of the film.
- Padme has no longer “lost the will to live” because that always felt like she was saying “F**k you twins, you’re on your own!”
- I redid the whole “Nooooo!” thing. It’s shorter, more clean, and looks better.
- I removed any reference to Qui-Gon and new training and all that stuff. It was half-baked, not very well thought out, and it’s too much new info too late in the film.
- I did not add any deleted scenes into the film, as i didn’t find any of them necessary or particularly helpful.
Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Genre:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
2005
Original Running Time:
140 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
120 minutes
Time Cut:
20 minutes
Additional Links:
Synopsis:
This is the attempt to finally give fans of the famous “Phantom Edits” the missing third episode. This is “Revenge of the Phantom”.
Intention:
I still consider The Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom to be the pinnacles of the fanediting idea. Sure, maybe it’s not the best picture/sound quality, but in terms of greatly improving a film, he nailed it on both accounts. Yet, he never did an Episode III edit. There have been some other edits, sure, but none of them really have that feel that his films have. Most prequel edits seem to come to a place of either hatred for the film or over-appreciation of the film, and tend to be unbalanced (this isn’t all of them, and its just my opinion.) Frankly, I haven’t found an ROTS edit that I feel I can put next to those Phantom Editor versions.
So I tried to use his principals and points of view to create a Revenge of the Sith edit I could watch along with Phantom Editor’s prior versions. It won’t feel exactly like a Phantom Editor edit of course, as it’s from my point of view which will always be different, and also he is a much better editor than me. But I feel like I can watch this version and confidently enjoy the film.
So I tried to use his principals and points of view to create a Revenge of the Sith edit I could watch along with Phantom Editor’s prior versions. It won’t feel exactly like a Phantom Editor edit of course, as it’s from my point of view which will always be different, and also he is a much better editor than me. But I feel like I can watch this version and confidently enjoy the film.
Release Information:
DVD
Cuts and Additions:
- Cut little odd bits of dialogue all over the place.
- Cut any lines or scenes that I found redundant.
- Attempted to cut any unnecessary pauses, camera shots, anything that slows down the pace and momentum of the film.
- Cut the buzz droids.
- Cut the missiles sequence to get them to the Invisible Hand faster.
- Removed the first elevator sequence. They get in the elevator and arrive to fight Dooku.
- Removed Palp’s little “Yeah!” thing. Not sure what that was but it’s gone.
- Removed the bit where Dooku drops a piece of scaffold onto Obi-Wan.
- Removed all of R2′s shenanigans.
- Added some music from KOTOR over the Jedi vs. Grievous guards sequence.
- Cut the scene where Yoda gives Anakin advice he never uses or mentions again. Because, well, he never uses it or mentions it again.
- Removed all the awkward “floating head over video game body ” clone trooper sequences.
- Trimmed as much of the squaking from that bird-lizard thing as possible. Drives me nuts!
- Removed Grievous’ line about being trained to use a lightsaber. It’s redundant since two seconds later, he uses a lightsaber.
- Removed the silly Sergio Leone eye close ups from the Obi/Grievous fight.
- Anakin catches onto Palps being a sith lord a little faster. Because, try as Lucas might, Anakin is not retarded.
- Trimmed a little of the Grievous chase scene.
- Palps vs. Jedi sequence has been reworked. Lucas somehow made him seem gymnastic and geriatric at the same time. I lessened both of those factors. Also, the other Jedi don’t go out like bitches. They now seem caught off guard.
- The entire transition to Vader sequence has been trimmed, cut and moved around to the point where I can’t really remember what I actually did. But I can tell you that i feel confident in this version working much better than original version.
- Cut the mission to Mustafar being mentioned 30 bajillion times. Once is enough.
- After Order 66, there’s more or less some sort of cut every 30 seconds. The pacing should’ve been brisk and fast and intense and it wasn’t. So I tried to get that momentum going as much as I could and removed lots of dead weight.
- I cut that weird moment where Anakin’s eyes appear orange. Yeah, I know, it’s a Sith trait, it’s happened before, blah blah blah, but the whole shot just feels like it’s there so they can stick it in the trailer over the Darth Vader theme.
- I cut the entire Obi-Wan/Anakin fight into one giant, tightly paced four minute action sequence. Some of the fight was removed, but it really flows now and is a lot more exciting.
- NO PALPATING YODA FIGHT. Yoda, in my Star Wars world, does not flip around like a monkey with a lightsaber. The only time he uses his saber is to behead the two clone troopers that were going to try and kill him. I like the idea that he uses all his strength to do that, but thats about all he’s capable of at his age.
- I cut all the talking between Anakin and Obi-Wan during the fight. They are Jedi and they are in fighting mode, they aren’t gonna stop and talk about it. I also cut Obi announcing to Anakin he has the high ground. If his mission is to kill Anakin, and he has already said “I will do what I must” why would he announce his advantage? It just makes him appear weak.
- Removed some droid silliness. I’m all for droid silliness, but not at this moment of the film.
- Padme has no longer “lost the will to live” because that always felt like she was saying “F**k you twins, you’re on your own!”
- I redid the whole “Nooooo!” thing. It’s shorter, more clean, and looks better.
- I removed any reference to Qui-Gon and new training and all that stuff. It was half-baked, not very well thought out, and it’s too much new info too late in the film.
- I did not add any deleted scenes into the film, as i didn’t find any of them necessary or particularly helpful.
- Cut any lines or scenes that I found redundant.
- Attempted to cut any unnecessary pauses, camera shots, anything that slows down the pace and momentum of the film.
- Cut the buzz droids.
- Cut the missiles sequence to get them to the Invisible Hand faster.
- Removed the first elevator sequence. They get in the elevator and arrive to fight Dooku.
- Removed Palp’s little “Yeah!” thing. Not sure what that was but it’s gone.
- Removed the bit where Dooku drops a piece of scaffold onto Obi-Wan.
- Removed all of R2′s shenanigans.
- Added some music from KOTOR over the Jedi vs. Grievous guards sequence.
- Cut the scene where Yoda gives Anakin advice he never uses or mentions again. Because, well, he never uses it or mentions it again.
- Removed all the awkward “floating head over video game body ” clone trooper sequences.
- Trimmed as much of the squaking from that bird-lizard thing as possible. Drives me nuts!
- Removed Grievous’ line about being trained to use a lightsaber. It’s redundant since two seconds later, he uses a lightsaber.
- Removed the silly Sergio Leone eye close ups from the Obi/Grievous fight.
- Anakin catches onto Palps being a sith lord a little faster. Because, try as Lucas might, Anakin is not retarded.
- Trimmed a little of the Grievous chase scene.
- Palps vs. Jedi sequence has been reworked. Lucas somehow made him seem gymnastic and geriatric at the same time. I lessened both of those factors. Also, the other Jedi don’t go out like bitches. They now seem caught off guard.
- The entire transition to Vader sequence has been trimmed, cut and moved around to the point where I can’t really remember what I actually did. But I can tell you that i feel confident in this version working much better than original version.
- Cut the mission to Mustafar being mentioned 30 bajillion times. Once is enough.
- After Order 66, there’s more or less some sort of cut every 30 seconds. The pacing should’ve been brisk and fast and intense and it wasn’t. So I tried to get that momentum going as much as I could and removed lots of dead weight.
- I cut that weird moment where Anakin’s eyes appear orange. Yeah, I know, it’s a Sith trait, it’s happened before, blah blah blah, but the whole shot just feels like it’s there so they can stick it in the trailer over the Darth Vader theme.
- I cut the entire Obi-Wan/Anakin fight into one giant, tightly paced four minute action sequence. Some of the fight was removed, but it really flows now and is a lot more exciting.
- NO PALPATING YODA FIGHT. Yoda, in my Star Wars world, does not flip around like a monkey with a lightsaber. The only time he uses his saber is to behead the two clone troopers that were going to try and kill him. I like the idea that he uses all his strength to do that, but thats about all he’s capable of at his age.
- I cut all the talking between Anakin and Obi-Wan during the fight. They are Jedi and they are in fighting mode, they aren’t gonna stop and talk about it. I also cut Obi announcing to Anakin he has the high ground. If his mission is to kill Anakin, and he has already said “I will do what I must” why would he announce his advantage? It just makes him appear weak.
- Removed some droid silliness. I’m all for droid silliness, but not at this moment of the film.
- Padme has no longer “lost the will to live” because that always felt like she was saying “F**k you twins, you’re on your own!”
- I redid the whole “Nooooo!” thing. It’s shorter, more clean, and looks better.
- I removed any reference to Qui-Gon and new training and all that stuff. It was half-baked, not very well thought out, and it’s too much new info too late in the film.
- I did not add any deleted scenes into the film, as i didn’t find any of them necessary or particularly helpful.
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1 review
(Updated: September 10, 2012)
Overall rating
9.0
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Review by Moe_Syzlak — June 26, 2009 @ 7:34 pm
This may be my definitive version. I love that you got rid of the buzz droids and the opening scene moves at a much brisker pace, concluding in about 15 minutes. I still would’ve liked more removed from the balcony scene. I like it to cut away as soon as Anakin says “make that kind of motion in the Senate where it belongs.” Also, I really wish you’d have cut the wookie tarzan scream. Though I’m glad to see some of the squaking from that bird-lizard thing cut, I think more could’ve been trimmed. Why not just show Obi Wan peering over at the Separtists? We don’t need to see how he got there. Also at the beginning of the chase I really hate that they both jump into an abyss. Perhaps it is necessary since it shows Obi Wan dropping his lightsaber, but I really want that gone. And, while I don’t absolutely HATE it, the Palpatine voice-over about “any chance of saving Padme will be lost” while Anakin is in the Council Chambers seems unnecessary at best. I think the scene works much better without it, actually giving the audience some credit for understanding his internal conflict without it. I’d also love to see someone cut the crazy Yoda flip Palpatine does in the battle with Windu just before they break the window. The edits to the ending of that battle as Windu is killed are perfect, IMO. The whole Anakin becoming Darth Vader works much better now too. This is a minor quibble, but has always gnawed at me: after viewing the security footgae, how does Obi wan know to call Palpatine “Emperor”? He should still be referring to him as Chancellor, no? The whole Anakin/Obi Wan duel works much better now. I don’t miss the Sidious/Yoda duel at all. At first, it was a bit jarring that Sidious is suddenly on Mustafar, but it makes sense if you think about it. The dialogue edits when the medic droids are talking to the Jedis about Padme are perfect. I still would like to see more of the Vader scene cut. I think it could end right after the “yes master” line. As with the Phantom edits that were you inspiration, I feel the edits done are terrific and work very well. My issues are only that I would still like to see more and deeper cuts. 9/10
This may be my definitive version. I love that you got rid of the buzz droids and the opening scene moves at a much brisker pace, concluding in about 15 minutes. I still would’ve liked more removed from the balcony scene. I like it to cut away as soon as Anakin says “make that kind of motion in the Senate where it belongs.” Also, I really wish you’d have cut the wookie tarzan scream. Though I’m glad to see some of the squaking from that bird-lizard thing cut, I think more could’ve been trimmed. Why not just show Obi Wan peering over at the Separtists? We don’t need to see how he got there. Also at the beginning of the chase I really hate that they both jump into an abyss. Perhaps it is necessary since it shows Obi Wan dropping his lightsaber, but I really want that gone. And, while I don’t absolutely HATE it, the Palpatine voice-over about “any chance of saving Padme will be lost” while Anakin is in the Council Chambers seems unnecessary at best. I think the scene works much better without it, actually giving the audience some credit for understanding his internal conflict without it. I’d also love to see someone cut the crazy Yoda flip Palpatine does in the battle with Windu just before they break the window. The edits to the ending of that battle as Windu is killed are perfect, IMO. The whole Anakin becoming Darth Vader works much better now too. This is a minor quibble, but has always gnawed at me: after viewing the security footgae, how does Obi wan know to call Palpatine “Emperor”? He should still be referring to him as Chancellor, no? The whole Anakin/Obi Wan duel works much better now. I don’t miss the Sidious/Yoda duel at all. At first, it was a bit jarring that Sidious is suddenly on Mustafar, but it makes sense if you think about it. The dialogue edits when the medic droids are talking to the Jedis about Padme are perfect. I still would like to see more of the Vader scene cut. I think it could end right after the “yes master” line. As with the Phantom edits that were you inspiration, I feel the edits done are terrific and work very well. My issues are only that I would still like to see more and deeper cuts. 9/10
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Review by havok1977 — July 15, 2010 @ 12:09 am
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9.9
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Review by ctorbaoglu — December 12, 2011 @ 1:21 am
I think that I’m getting fan of Spence editions.
V:9/10
A:10/10
E: 9/10
I think that I’m getting fan of Spence editions.
V:9/10
A:10/10
E: 9/10
(Updated: September 10, 2012)
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9.0
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Review by drjack69 — May 17, 2010 @ 1:03 pm
This is great! this is exactly what I was after, and I can now watch revenge of the sith without wincing.
Only gripes are:
We don’t need the “Nooooo” bit at all. I’ve edited that out myself from this so you see Vaders mask being lowered then the next time you see him he’s standing on the bridge with Tarkin and the Emperor. Not a dig at this edit but I really can’t see Vader even using the word “OK” or “Alright”.
The dialogue with the medical droid is perfect, but we now have a shot of it and then a closer shot of it. It seems a bit clunky but I suppose it was difficult to get right.
Other than that… top notch! I’ve downloaded the Spence edit for attack of the clones in the hope that it is as good as this!
This is great! this is exactly what I was after, and I can now watch revenge of the sith without wincing.
Only gripes are:
We don’t need the “Nooooo” bit at all. I’ve edited that out myself from this so you see Vaders mask being lowered then the next time you see him he’s standing on the bridge with Tarkin and the Emperor. Not a dig at this edit but I really can’t see Vader even using the word “OK” or “Alright”.
The dialogue with the medical droid is perfect, but we now have a shot of it and then a closer shot of it. It seems a bit clunky but I suppose it was difficult to get right.
Other than that… top notch! I’ve downloaded the Spence edit for attack of the clones in the hope that it is as good as this!
(Updated: September 10, 2012)
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8.0
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8.0
Review by Hrumpff — April 12, 2010 @ 4:35 pm
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*This rating was given before reviews were required*
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8.0
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Review by buzzkill007 — March 8, 2010 @ 11:41 pm
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