Star Trek – Kirkless Generations

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Star Trek – Kirkless Generations
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Original Release Date:
1994
Original Running Time:
118 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
78 minutes
Synopsis:
This is Star Trek Generations without Captain Kirk, but as a true NEXT GENERATIONS movie. Impossible? Nope.
Intention:
We do not hate Captain Kirk, but he spoiled this movie nevertheless. Although the beginning is kind of nicely done, it is still not a worthy death for James T., so it had to be deleted. Our plan was to make this the first Next Generation’s movie, filling all the plot holes between the TV show and the movie “First Contact”. It was difficult was to make up a story without Kirk that would work, and since we did not want Picard to fight Soren two times with bare hands, the 50 gigawatts force field had to knock him out. Our edition is an improvement over the original, if you like Next Generation and did not like Captain Kirk in this movie. 42 minutes of cut footage is a lot, but for the pace of the movie it was good. See for yourself.
Release Information:
DVD
Special Features:
- Languages: English, German, Spanish, French, Italian
- Subtitles: English, Spanish, Portugese, Swedish, Norwegian, Polish
- Trailer
- 3 Deleted Scenes (approx 40 mins)
- Cover and Disk Art
- CBB Special
Cuts and Additions:
- added Picard’s family book intro from Generations specail edition
- removed the entire beginning including the Enterprise B scenes
- removed all Captain Kirk scenes in the Nexus and in the real world
- removed Picard scenes with Kirk as well as Picard scenes after he could not defeat Soren the first time
- removed Riker saying: “that was the flight James T. Kirk died on”
- mirrored Kirk hitting Soren, because we needed a right hand to knock Soren down the hill.
- added special warp-out-of-Nexus effect (video and sound)
- removed end credits and created our own (the crew from Star Trek O.S. is not participating in our movie and there are many people who are worthy of saying thank you to)
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Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1994
Original Running Time:
118 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
78 minutes
Synopsis:
This is Star Trek Generations without Captain Kirk, but as a true NEXT GENERATIONS movie. Impossible? Nope.
Intention:
We do not hate Captain Kirk, but he spoiled this movie nevertheless. Although the beginning is kind of nicely done, it is still not a worthy death for James T., so it had to be deleted. Our plan was to make this the first Next Generation’s movie, filling all the plot holes between the TV show and the movie “First Contact”. It was difficult was to make up a story without Kirk that would work, and since we did not want Picard to fight Soren two times with bare hands, the 50 gigawatts force field had to knock him out. Our edition is an improvement over the original, if you like Next Generation and did not like Captain Kirk in this movie. 42 minutes of cut footage is a lot, but for the pace of the movie it was good. See for yourself.
Release Information:
DVD
Special Features:
- Languages: English, German, Spanish, French, Italian
- Subtitles: English, Spanish, Portugese, Swedish, Norwegian, Polish
- Trailer
- 3 Deleted Scenes (approx 40 mins)
- Cover and Disk Art
- CBB Special
Cuts and Additions:
- added Picard’s family book intro from Generations specail edition
- removed the entire beginning including the Enterprise B scenes
- removed all Captain Kirk scenes in the Nexus and in the real world
- removed Picard scenes with Kirk as well as Picard scenes after he could not defeat Soren the first time
- removed Riker saying: “that was the flight James T. Kirk died on”
- mirrored Kirk hitting Soren, because we needed a right hand to knock Soren down the hill.
- added special warp-out-of-Nexus effect (video and sound)
- removed end credits and created our own (the crew from Star Trek O.S. is not participating in our movie and there are many people who are worthy of saying thank you to)
Cover art by CBB (DOWNLOAD HERE)
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Cover art by CBB (DOWNLOAD HERE)
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Review by DwightFry78 — May 8, 2010 @ 12:05 am

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Review by L8wrtr — May 4, 2010 @ 10:30 pm

Star Trek – Kirkless Generations by CBB

Reviewed by L8wrtr

A fantastic edit from a highly flawed source.

Owning the theatrical version of Generations is more an act of loyalty than any indication of enjoyment, so I had high hopes for this edit. I was not disappoitned.

Video editing
Overall this fan-edit is fairly seemless. There are one or two transitions that felt abrupt, and the slow-motion turn was a bit jarring, but you have to work with what you get in fan-editing so I didn’t have a complaint about this. The narrative that this edit creates is great, particularly when you consider the mess that is the original. The focus on Picard’s struggle is far more believable and his struggle enjoys the proper focus in the film.

My only complaint regarding this edit is the sequence of events once Picard returns to the planet from the Nexus. The original screenplay already suffers from the McFly Time-Travel Blunder, where our hero, able to select any point in time/space chooses to barely give himself enough time. This flaw is exaggerated by this new sequence because Picard chooses to return outside the shield. If not for his serendipitously finding the hole in the shield, Picard would have been unable to stop Soran the second time either.

This sequence would have flowed a lot better (IMO) if Picard’s discussion/attempted persuasion with Soran happened all before the rocket fires, and then when Picard returns from the Nexus, it instantly is right where the action starts on the cat-walk. From that point, the fight sequence is perfect and believable. It is a skillful integration of the original footage into a 2-man fight without Kirk. (Of course, a truly bold solution to the McFly conundrum would be to simply cut out the Nexus all-together, Picard slips into the shield, saves the day, no time travel needed, and the Nexus remains a mystery to us. Unfortunately that would cut out how Picard comes to terms with his grief, which is what makes the scene worth keeping). This however is my only criticism. 9 out of 10

Video Quality
I found no flaws in the video quality, no reason to give it anything other than 10 out of 10

Audio Quality
Overall, quite good, but a few harsh transitions stood out and ruined the seemless flow. I have not watched this movie in years and do not have it memorized, so that I recognized the transitions keeps it from being perfect. 9 out of 10

Overall Entertainment
This edit rescues a very disappointing movie that I watch rarely, and has turned it into a movie that I will actively watch again and will share with friends. 9 out of 10.
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Review by spicediver - July 1, 2008 @ 2:17 pm

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There isn’t much I can say that hasn’t been said. Overall, I enjoyed the edit. While I never disliked the opening with the original crew, I didn’t miss it. However, cutting out Kirk while in the Nexus was very good. I only had a few minor issues: there were a couple shots that were slowed down to the point of stuttering. They looked bad. I’m not sure why the editor chose to do this. Second, I didn’t care for the new credits. They looked a little cheap, like something done on an old tape linear editing system. Finally, and L8wrtr hit the nail on the head with this one, Picard could return anywhere in time and he chose to appear outside the shield. I really like what L8 recommended as a solution.

While none of these things make the film unwatchable (far from it... this cut is very enjoyable) it would be nice to see a revised version with a few tweaks.

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I'm reviewing from memory, but I thought this was a lovely edit. Whilst I prefer Kirk in the movie (despite how he was written), this beautifully crafts a final chapter for the TNG era before heading into the later movies. Picard exiting the nexus and the end sequence all work fine, no complaints, although I do agree with everyone about the slow-motion shots, but these were probably unavoidable.

The one thing I miss is the triumphant Generations overture, but the new opening is far more appropriate for this edit.

Nice one!
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I rather enjoyed this fanedit. It's much better than the original (since I do not need to see a beloved character be killed for no good reason). But there was an obvious slow-down effect and it was obvious when Kirk hit Soren and not picard.

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Review by kerr — November 19, 2010 @ 8:58 pm

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Review by Kevinicus — September 6, 2010 @ 6:03 am

I didn’t know about this edit until about a week ago, and just watched it today. I always thought Generations was my favorite Star Trek of the Next Gen batch, and I think I remembered it a lot better than it really was. I was curious about this fanedit, because I thought the ending would be a little difficult to work around, and wanted to see how it was handled.

My concerns were confirmed when it got to the climax. While it’s not done too bad, it was pretty noticeable to me. Also, the fade effect thing to get out of the Nexus, while it technically works, just came across a little iffy to me.

Really, removing Kirk didn’t do anything for me since I never really minded him much to begin with, and I felt something was missing with all the references to the older Enterprise. There were however a lot of parts (particularly with Data) that I found myself wishing had been removed.

Overall it’s okay, and the movie being a lot cheesier than I remember doesn’t help. Perhaps it’s the stark contrast to the most recent Star Trek that makes this a pretty bad movie in comparison.
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Review by mullholland665 — July 9, 2010 @ 9:25 am

A really great edit! This works so incredibly well that it got me wondering: was the screenplay originally written without Kirk’s character, only to be inserted in a later draft? The quality of the editing is very smooth too.

With the Kirk character gone, the plot strand about Piccard and his longing for a family instead of the all-consuming Starfleet career was something I found incredibly moving this time around. The film in its original form got distracted from that element due to Kirk’s unnecessary presence in the story. Thanks CBB for turning a flawed movie into what is for me now one of the great ones in the Star Trek franchise.
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