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Star Trek 6 “The Khitomer Conspiracy”
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Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
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Franchise:
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Original Release Date:
1991
Original Running Time:
113 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
97 minutes
Time Cut:
23 minutes
Time Added:
10 minutes
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Synopsis:
Undiscovered Country is a fun and satisfying final original cast movie for the general viewing public. But for this Life Long Trek Fanboy, it reeks of sloppy writing, continuity/character errors and a militaristic tone that doesn’t fit well with the Trek Universe created by Gene Roddenberry. With this bringing my TOS Movie edits to a close, I decided to take a kitchen sink approach, and forge a Fanboy movie that firmly connects this movie with the entire Trek Timeline, both past and future and give our intrepid heroes a more mythic send off.
Intention:
Intention: Bring this movie more in line with the Trek Franchise Timeline.
Release Information:
DVD
Cuts and Additions:
– new Opening Act
– Sulu/Excelsior/Praxis cut
– trimmed conference briefing and toned down Kirk’s bigotry
– trimmed/cut Valeris sign post scenes
– trimmed/altered/cut shipboard investigation
– trimmed prison planet stuff
– added Future Guy
– altered assassination
– new closing act
– music added throughout
– fade to black breaks
– and lots of other little stuff
– Sulu/Excelsior/Praxis cut
– trimmed conference briefing and toned down Kirk’s bigotry
– trimmed/cut Valeris sign post scenes
– trimmed/altered/cut shipboard investigation
– trimmed prison planet stuff
– added Future Guy
– altered assassination
– new closing act
– music added throughout
– fade to black breaks
– and lots of other little stuff
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Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Genre:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1991
Original Running Time:
113 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
97 minutes
Time Cut:
23 minutes
Time Added:
10 minutes
Additional Links:
Synopsis:
Undiscovered Country is a fun and satisfying final original cast movie for the general viewing public. But for this Life Long Trek Fanboy, it reeks of sloppy writing, continuity/character errors and a militaristic tone that doesn’t fit well with the Trek Universe created by Gene Roddenberry. With this bringing my TOS Movie edits to a close, I decided to take a kitchen sink approach, and forge a Fanboy movie that firmly connects this movie with the entire Trek Timeline, both past and future and give our intrepid heroes a more mythic send off.
Intention:
Intention: Bring this movie more in line with the Trek Franchise Timeline.
Release Information:
DVD
Cuts and Additions:
– new Opening Act
– Sulu/Excelsior/Praxis cut
– trimmed conference briefing and toned down Kirk’s bigotry
– trimmed/cut Valeris sign post scenes
– trimmed/altered/cut shipboard investigation
– trimmed prison planet stuff
– added Future Guy
– altered assassination
– new closing act
– music added throughout
– fade to black breaks
– and lots of other little stuff
– Sulu/Excelsior/Praxis cut
– trimmed conference briefing and toned down Kirk’s bigotry
– trimmed/cut Valeris sign post scenes
– trimmed/altered/cut shipboard investigation
– trimmed prison planet stuff
– added Future Guy
– altered assassination
– new closing act
– music added throughout
– fade to black breaks
– and lots of other little stuff
Cover art by Rogue-theX (DOWNLOAD HERE)
Trailer
Trusted Reviewer reviews
4 reviews
Overall rating
8.2
Audio/Video Quality
9.0(2)
Audio Editing
8.0(2)
Visual Editing
9.0(2)
Narrative
7.0(2)
Enjoyment
7.8(4)
Overall rating
7.9
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
8.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
6.0
Enjoyment
5.0
I've watched all of BionicBob's Star Trek TOS film edits in order, and I have to say that sadly, this was the one that worked least for me. I see that most of the other reviews here are quite positive, so I'll explain what my issues were and let potential viewers make up their own minds.
Firstly, I should say that I don't like the original film much to start with. It's my 2nd least favorite Star Trek film, and a lot of the issues are just script-deep, nothing that can be changed without radical restructuring of the film. (Full review here: https://letterboxd.com/nottheacademy/film/star-trek-vi-the-undiscovered-country/) This is not that edit, though it does improve on the story in some areas.
I liked all the cuts and trims, they were very welcome. Many more would have been, especially where the film contradicts other films or series (which it does a lot). The non-stop Shakespeare references could've been trimmed way back, as well as Spock's line about being related to a fictional character (is this meta now? We the audience know that Spock knows he's fictional???) Perhaps the traitor falling for such a stupid ruse could've been trimmed back, and perhaps Spock's mind-rape could've as well. But anyway, I'll stop with my wishlist and focus on what's here...
The additions and alterations are my main issue with this edit. While I thought BB hit a sweet spot on how to finetune the commercial cutaways and the TV tone with his previous edit (STV), this one is a big step down. Fades are overlong, music often doesn't fit the scene, and the music and sound effects frequently stomp on the dialogue, particularly when cutting to commercial. The effects added in here at a key point look pretty bad and scream fanedit, I'm sorry to say. And the bookends are overlong and send the same message. They really have very little to do with what's onscreen and attempt to reframe the whole film with explanatory title cards. It's the classic case of Telling rather than Showing, a mis-step that faneditors often try to fix when a director does it. For me, writing a bunch of text that explains what was really happening in a movie just doesn't work as a fanedit, and it's also at odds with the supposedly "TV series" presentation of the whole rest of BB's Star Trek series.
There may be some big Star Trek Enterprise fans that love this film connecting to that series. I've never seen it and don't think I should have to in order to enjoy this edit. It's supposed to be for fans of TOS, so all the connections to a massive Enterprise storyline just felt really forced to me. I'd appreciate another version of this that simply tries to fix the original film, but I suppose this is an alternative for superfans who feel differently.
All respect to BionicBob, I appreciate the hard work on this series. The other ones all worked better for me, so you can chock this up to my personal taste.
Firstly, I should say that I don't like the original film much to start with. It's my 2nd least favorite Star Trek film, and a lot of the issues are just script-deep, nothing that can be changed without radical restructuring of the film. (Full review here: https://letterboxd.com/nottheacademy/film/star-trek-vi-the-undiscovered-country/) This is not that edit, though it does improve on the story in some areas.
I liked all the cuts and trims, they were very welcome. Many more would have been, especially where the film contradicts other films or series (which it does a lot). The non-stop Shakespeare references could've been trimmed way back, as well as Spock's line about being related to a fictional character (is this meta now? We the audience know that Spock knows he's fictional???) Perhaps the traitor falling for such a stupid ruse could've been trimmed back, and perhaps Spock's mind-rape could've as well. But anyway, I'll stop with my wishlist and focus on what's here...
The additions and alterations are my main issue with this edit. While I thought BB hit a sweet spot on how to finetune the commercial cutaways and the TV tone with his previous edit (STV), this one is a big step down. Fades are overlong, music often doesn't fit the scene, and the music and sound effects frequently stomp on the dialogue, particularly when cutting to commercial. The effects added in here at a key point look pretty bad and scream fanedit, I'm sorry to say. And the bookends are overlong and send the same message. They really have very little to do with what's onscreen and attempt to reframe the whole film with explanatory title cards. It's the classic case of Telling rather than Showing, a mis-step that faneditors often try to fix when a director does it. For me, writing a bunch of text that explains what was really happening in a movie just doesn't work as a fanedit, and it's also at odds with the supposedly "TV series" presentation of the whole rest of BB's Star Trek series.
There may be some big Star Trek Enterprise fans that love this film connecting to that series. I've never seen it and don't think I should have to in order to enjoy this edit. It's supposed to be for fans of TOS, so all the connections to a massive Enterprise storyline just felt really forced to me. I'd appreciate another version of this that simply tries to fix the original film, but I suppose this is an alternative for superfans who feel differently.
All respect to BionicBob, I appreciate the hard work on this series. The other ones all worked better for me, so you can chock this up to my personal taste.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
No
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
8.5
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
8.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
8.0
A worthy finish to BionicBob’s Trek edits. I wasn’t a fan of Undiscovered Country and the changes here worked quite well.
A/V Quality - 9
Editing - 9 visual, 8 audio
Narrative - 8
Enjoyment - 8 (original 7)
Recommended drink: Synthehol
A/V Quality - 9
Editing - 9 visual, 8 audio
Narrative - 8
Enjoyment - 8 (original 7)
Recommended drink: Synthehol
User Review
Format Watched
DVD
(Updated: September 15, 2012)
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
N/A
Audio Editing
N/A
Visual Editing
N/A
Narrative
N/A
Enjoyment
9.0
Review by DwightFry78 — May 20, 2012 @ 9:49 pm
This edit is the end of an era, in which a man who calls himself Bionic Bob dared to boldly go where no man, where no one, had gone before: take all the theatrical Original Cast Trek movies, and make leaner, meaner TV episode style edits out of them. All of the entries have been successes IMO, and with this final one Bob gave his all and wrapped the whole thing up in a way that ties The Undiscovered Country with a lot of other elements of the Trekverse. Now, while I have always tended to enjoy all things Star Trek, I wouldn’t consider myself a Trekker and I still have a lot to watch, so being a bit less than a fanboy yet a bit more than a casual viewer, I must say that the newly added elements worked great for me, even if I didn’t “get” all of the references. But I didn’t need to, even for newcomers I think there’s enough of a pattern to sense there and a mystery element that works. Particularly, I loved the book-end structure. It gave the whole thing a flavor of mythic, larger than life “old legend” narration. Genius.
The rest of it is a much improved pacing-wise version of the sixth movie in the franchise, which once again shows that it contained a lot of unneeded filler. However, I got slightly disappointed in seeing that some cheesy stuff had remained, which might even be my fault in part for not suggesting its removal while this edit was in the works. Much of that cheese has to do with Bill S. No, not him. The other Bill S. Starting from establishing that Shakespeare’s works were originally written in Klingon (wut?), and culminating in the non-stop quoting by Chang of lines from the plays that, for my tastes, turn him into a buffonesque operetta villain and deprive the last third of any tension. It’s unintentionally funny and works against the narration. My other complaint is Spock’s bloodline link to Sherlock Holmes. Not only is it way too forced and unlikely, but it reminds me of how everyone in the world who claims to have been reincarnated, claims to have been the likes of Alexander the Great or Cleopatra, never a random XII Century leper beggar… I will concede, though, that the Holmes line is hard to remove given the flow of the conversation.
Some other reviewers have complained about the commercial fades. I think they were fine. Bob has come a long way since his early Trek edits that faded out and in the audio and the video at the same thing, which WAS jarring. Here he used different timings, and it felt natural. In fact, other than the moments I mentioned above and some spelling errors that others have pointed out already, both the narrative and the technical stuff were flawlessly handled.
A great final chapter of a great fanedit saga, and yet another one of Bob’s edits that replaces the original for me. On top of everything, I couldn’t agree more: KIRK LIVES! 9/10.
This edit is the end of an era, in which a man who calls himself Bionic Bob dared to boldly go where no man, where no one, had gone before: take all the theatrical Original Cast Trek movies, and make leaner, meaner TV episode style edits out of them. All of the entries have been successes IMO, and with this final one Bob gave his all and wrapped the whole thing up in a way that ties The Undiscovered Country with a lot of other elements of the Trekverse. Now, while I have always tended to enjoy all things Star Trek, I wouldn’t consider myself a Trekker and I still have a lot to watch, so being a bit less than a fanboy yet a bit more than a casual viewer, I must say that the newly added elements worked great for me, even if I didn’t “get” all of the references. But I didn’t need to, even for newcomers I think there’s enough of a pattern to sense there and a mystery element that works. Particularly, I loved the book-end structure. It gave the whole thing a flavor of mythic, larger than life “old legend” narration. Genius.
The rest of it is a much improved pacing-wise version of the sixth movie in the franchise, which once again shows that it contained a lot of unneeded filler. However, I got slightly disappointed in seeing that some cheesy stuff had remained, which might even be my fault in part for not suggesting its removal while this edit was in the works. Much of that cheese has to do with Bill S. No, not him. The other Bill S. Starting from establishing that Shakespeare’s works were originally written in Klingon (wut?), and culminating in the non-stop quoting by Chang of lines from the plays that, for my tastes, turn him into a buffonesque operetta villain and deprive the last third of any tension. It’s unintentionally funny and works against the narration. My other complaint is Spock’s bloodline link to Sherlock Holmes. Not only is it way too forced and unlikely, but it reminds me of how everyone in the world who claims to have been reincarnated, claims to have been the likes of Alexander the Great or Cleopatra, never a random XII Century leper beggar… I will concede, though, that the Holmes line is hard to remove given the flow of the conversation.
Some other reviewers have complained about the commercial fades. I think they were fine. Bob has come a long way since his early Trek edits that faded out and in the audio and the video at the same thing, which WAS jarring. Here he used different timings, and it felt natural. In fact, other than the moments I mentioned above and some spelling errors that others have pointed out already, both the narrative and the technical stuff were flawlessly handled.
A great final chapter of a great fanedit saga, and yet another one of Bob’s edits that replaces the original for me. On top of everything, I couldn’t agree more: KIRK LIVES! 9/10.
(Updated: September 15, 2012)
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
N/A
Audio Editing
N/A
Visual Editing
N/A
Narrative
N/A
Enjoyment
9.0
Review by TMBTM — May 1, 2012 @ 7:39 pm
I did not see the original for along time but one thing is for sure: this new version left a better taste in my mouth. It’s well paced, there’s a sens of urgency that I don’t remember being on that level in the original. New music is very well used. Fade to black breaks are always anice addition when watching Trek fanedits (exept for The Motion Picture and JJ’s Trek, I feel like all Trek movies are a bit like TV series “deluxe episodes”, so making them look like TV even more is nice)
Another great job from Bionic Bob!
I did not see the original for along time but one thing is for sure: this new version left a better taste in my mouth. It’s well paced, there’s a sens of urgency that I don’t remember being on that level in the original. New music is very well used. Fade to black breaks are always anice addition when watching Trek fanedits (exept for The Motion Picture and JJ’s Trek, I feel like all Trek movies are a bit like TV series “deluxe episodes”, so making them look like TV even more is nice)
Another great job from Bionic Bob!
User reviews
5 reviews
Overall rating
9.1
Audio/Video Quality
9.3(4)
Audio Editing
8.8(4)
Visual Editing
9.0(4)
Narrative
9.5(4)
Enjoyment
9.0(5)
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
I've watched all of Bionic Bob's TOS Star Trek edits now, in order, and more or less in a marathon!
Every single one of them, for me, was probably better than the original. This one was no exception.
I have left more detailed reviews for some of Bionic Bob's other edits, but for this I will just say: Anyone who loves/loved the original Star Trek series NEEDS to watch these movie edits. Anyone who loved or hated the original Star Trek films NEEDS to watch these because they improve upon the originals pretty much across the board (okay, Wrath of Khan needed a few minutes with Spock sacrificing himself--but the concept of that edit was to see everything through Kirk's eyes and so it was a success from that point of view.)
So I def recommend this and the previous 5 :-)
Every single one of them, for me, was probably better than the original. This one was no exception.
I have left more detailed reviews for some of Bionic Bob's other edits, but for this I will just say: Anyone who loves/loved the original Star Trek series NEEDS to watch these movie edits. Anyone who loved or hated the original Star Trek films NEEDS to watch these because they improve upon the originals pretty much across the board (okay, Wrath of Khan needed a few minutes with Spock sacrificing himself--but the concept of that edit was to see everything through Kirk's eyes and so it was a success from that point of view.)
So I def recommend this and the previous 5 :-)
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
DVD
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
8.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
8.0
Star Trek VI is one of those Trek movies I can't get enough of, Shakesperian Klingons, the Kirk vs Shape-Shifter Kirk fight, Spock playing Sherlock Holmes and solving a rather ellaborate mystery...as I've aged, I find coming back to it a more enriching experiance than the last. Bob's edit, I'm glad to say, not only heightens the experiance further, but completly reinvents the wheel. Playing out like a tv episode, and not just relying on seemless transistions to evoke the feel of watching one, but also incorporating elements from the Star Trek tv series canon, rewriting visual and narrative histories with reletive ease. By viewing this edit, you discover a whole new country. The only negative I have to give it is the write-up at the end talking about the fates of the crew...it feels too tacked on and has a whiff of fanfilm to it, I don't have a problem with that sort of thing, but it's such a stark difference from the professional job and visual quality that preceeded it.
A neat and tidy Trek trim with some unique surprises. I am as always inspired by Bob's output
A neat and tidy Trek trim with some unique surprises. I am as always inspired by Bob's output
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
DVD
Overall rating
8.8
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
8.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
****SPOILERS BELOW*****
Great edit. But for basically two things, this would be my go-too version of the film. My only issues are basically differences of taste. You said from the outset that you wanted this to be a kitchen-sink fanboy edit, and it's those choices that bugged me. Future Guy was actually pretty well integrated, and while I wouldn't personally have put him in, I totally get what you're going for. The changeling, on the other hand, I didn't think was well executed and I'd like to see a copy of this edit with that sliced out. Plus, if I'm to believe that the Dominion was behind the entire plot, shouldn't I see changelings at the very beginning, when Praxis is bombed?
I also would have liked to see, in the postscript, a little more of an explanation on the role played by the Enterprise crew in the temporal war, what Future Guy was trying to accomplish by getting involved with this whole thing, why the Dominion's plans and Future Guy's plans dovetailed so nicely, and whether or not--as hinted--Nero, the destruction of Romulus, and the alternate timeline movies have anything to do with all of this.
Great edit. But for basically two things, this would be my go-too version of the film. My only issues are basically differences of taste. You said from the outset that you wanted this to be a kitchen-sink fanboy edit, and it's those choices that bugged me. Future Guy was actually pretty well integrated, and while I wouldn't personally have put him in, I totally get what you're going for. The changeling, on the other hand, I didn't think was well executed and I'd like to see a copy of this edit with that sliced out. Plus, if I'm to believe that the Dominion was behind the entire plot, shouldn't I see changelings at the very beginning, when Praxis is bombed?
I also would have liked to see, in the postscript, a little more of an explanation on the role played by the Enterprise crew in the temporal war, what Future Guy was trying to accomplish by getting involved with this whole thing, why the Dominion's plans and Future Guy's plans dovetailed so nicely, and whether or not--as hinted--Nero, the destruction of Romulus, and the alternate timeline movies have anything to do with all of this.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
DVD
(Updated: November 21, 2012)
Overall rating
8.8
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
8.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
Another great edit from Bionic Bob.
This one is even better than his Star Trek: Nemesis edit, which is saying something. He has taken elements from the ENTERPRISE era Temporal Cold War and used them as a frame story, giving Khitomer conspiracy a slightly different feel.
The choices that he made were all great. The editing is spot on. The new storyline is much improved, and the edit is a lot of fun. It's got some good old fanboying in it, too. That's nice.
My only complaint, and it's a minor one, is that the audio during Spock and Kirk's showdown has a few noticeable cuts. I don't know if it would be an issue with speakers, but listening through headphones I certainly noticed that cuts had been made. As i said, this was a minor issue.
Bionic Bob has a tendency to step beyond cut and paste jobs, and introduce new story elements into his edits. This one continues that tradition to great effect.
The DVD presentation was also very well done. I loved the menus, and the bonus features (making of and two trailers) were a nice touch.
All in all, another fantastic edit.
Many thanks, Bob.
This one is even better than his Star Trek: Nemesis edit, which is saying something. He has taken elements from the ENTERPRISE era Temporal Cold War and used them as a frame story, giving Khitomer conspiracy a slightly different feel.
The choices that he made were all great. The editing is spot on. The new storyline is much improved, and the edit is a lot of fun. It's got some good old fanboying in it, too. That's nice.
My only complaint, and it's a minor one, is that the audio during Spock and Kirk's showdown has a few noticeable cuts. I don't know if it would be an issue with speakers, but listening through headphones I certainly noticed that cuts had been made. As i said, this was a minor issue.
Bionic Bob has a tendency to step beyond cut and paste jobs, and introduce new story elements into his edits. This one continues that tradition to great effect.
The DVD presentation was also very well done. I loved the menus, and the bonus features (making of and two trailers) were a nice touch.
All in all, another fantastic edit.
Many thanks, Bob.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
(Updated: September 15, 2012)
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
N/A
Audio Editing
N/A
Visual Editing
N/A
Narrative
N/A
Enjoyment
9.0
Review by Ripplin — April 22, 2012 @ 1:37 am
Well done as always, Bob! :) It looked and sounded great (with an elegant menu as well), the trimming was quite appropriate (including the stupid kick to the “knee”), the spots where it would stop for a commercial break were perfect, and there were some genuine surprises in it. I won’t say anything other than it’s creative. A really nice way to wrap things up!
This is a nice alternate version I would recommend to any Trek fan, especially if they’re already familiar with the original. I give it a hearty 9/10!
Well done as always, Bob! :) It looked and sounded great (with an elegant menu as well), the trimming was quite appropriate (including the stupid kick to the “knee”), the spots where it would stop for a commercial break were perfect, and there were some genuine surprises in it. I won’t say anything other than it’s creative. A really nice way to wrap things up!
This is a nice alternate version I would recommend to any Trek fan, especially if they’re already familiar with the original. I give it a hearty 9/10!