Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - Spence Final Cut

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2002
Original Running Time:
142 minutes
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Fanedit Running Time:
107 minutes
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Synopsis:
After 15+ years of noodling, I've finally landed on a version of the prequels that I prefer. The main concept is to fix AOTC, the weakest link that brings down the other two, and make TPM lead into it, and ROTS build from it.

The biggest problem I have with these movies isn’t necessarily the content. There’s some stuff I’m not crazy about, such as midichlorians and some of Anakin’s whiney, creepy behavior, sure. However, the biggest problem to me is in the minute to minute pacing. They just feel… weird? Off? Something’s not quite right in every single scene. The most egregious example is AOTC, where seemingly nobody talks like a human being, characters stand around clearly waiting for their cue, and much of the action mostly falls flat.

Even worse, the love story doesn’t work, partly because I think they focused on it way too much. The dialogue between Anakin and Padme is shockingly strange, but the chemistry between the two actors is definitely there. Just letting them spend time together would have sold it enough.

So I’m taking another crack at the Prequels, but I’m starting with AOTC, the biggest problem with the trilogy. Once I get that working, I can build up to it with TPM, and off of it with ROTS. The idea here is to go into every scene and remove that disjointed, stagey, unnatural feeling that permeates the film. Action will be pumped up and pacey, conversations will have that zing that they’re lacking, and the movie will move along at a steady pace.

There’s a lot of PT edits out there, and I’m not the most technically accomplished editor to tackle them. However, I think my particular knack for action and pace (I’m aware of my strengths as well as my faults) will make these stand out.
Intention:
Improve the pacing of all three films to feel more in-line with the originals. Flesh out the story and characters with deleted scenes and content from other Star Wars projects.
Other Sources:
Star Wars Soundtracks
Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi
My own voice
Special Thanks:
artisdead
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
Overall goals:
- Make Anakin and Padme's love story more natural and remove the heavy focus on the "forbidden romance" element. The whole story of the prequels hinges on their romance being believable.
- Anakin is no longer creepy or leers at Padme, he's just a little awkward but charming.
- Anakin no longer whines about Obi-Wan or the council, but it's still clear he is bothered by them.
- Adjust the awkward editing throughout the film. Long silences, odd framing, or scenes that move at a slow or unnatural pace are all adjusted.
- Tighten up the action editing for more thrilling sequences. Added a lot of zooms, crops, camera movement, and combined shots to accomplish this.
Cuts and Additions:
More scene specific stuff (this isn't every change, barely two minutes go by without some sort of edit or effect, but this is the big noticeable stuff)
- Speed up the landing platform sequence, removing unnecessary dialogue or shots. Also add zooms and camera movement to make the sequence more exciting and dangerous.
- Add in the senate deleted scene, with some trims for pacing.
- Add in the Anakin/Kenobi duel flashbacks from the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, with adjusted color timing and music to help it blend into the film better.
- Many cuts made to Anakin and Padme meeting again, making it a less awkward exchanged. Oddly, this sequence has the most new VFX shots to get it to function correctly out of the whole thing, and it's just people talking.
- Remove Jango/Zam scene, so the first time we see Zam is when they load up the assassin droid.
- Many cuts to Anakin and Kenobi's dialogue while Padme is sleeping for pacing. Cut the odd "intoxicating" dialogue from Anakin.
- Lots of action and pacing editing to the coruscant chase, slimming down the banter to the best parts.
- Lots of trims to the Dexter's Diner sequence.
- Reordered a lot of the back and forth between Anakin's story and Kenobi's story to keep the focus where it needs to be longer.
- Add in the dinner with Padme's family, with some trims.
- Remove the scene with Yoda and the Younglings and Yoda/Kenobi/Mace discussion in the temple before Kenobi leaves.
- Replace that scene with an edited version of the Mace/Kenobi landing platform scene.
- Removed the second half of the meadow scene and the fireside confession from the love story. The focus is now more on Padme slowly falling for Anakin as opposed to "we can't be together!"
- Padme no longer stops the kiss, and we now crossfade to Anakin standing on the balcony in the morning. It avoids an awkward transition back to Kamino and also insinuates that they may have had... aggressive negotiations.
- Lots of cuts and trims to the Jango fight for pacing and intensity.
- Removed the Jango/Kenobi space battle. I love the sonic bomb things as much as the next guy, but we really don't need another action scene here given the way I've recut things.
- 3PO is no longer in the film, and I intend to remove him from TPM as well so he doesn't show up until he's serving Padme in ROTS. Remove him with a combination of careful edits and cropping and some masking.
- Cut Anakin and Padme's dialogue as he's leaving to find his mother. The moment feels a bit more epic without the dialogue.
- Removed the iris in transition from Anakin killing the tuskens to Yoda, it now smash cuts to Yoda. It feels a bit more violent and upsetting.
- HEAVY trims to the droid factory sequence. It's not a particularly good action scene, but it feels a little awkward without it.
- Reinstate the meeting with Dooku and the sentencing deleted scenes to slow things down for a second before we hit the last act of the movie, which is basically non-stop action. I also wanted to show Padme attempting to resolve things peacefully as I think that's important to her overall character.
- The "Across the stars" scene is heavily edited. It now goes:
"Don't be frightened"
"I'm not afraid to die. I love you. I truly deeply love you, and before we die I want you to know"
Kiss, then into the arena.
- Basically from here on out it's major cuts, zooms, extra camera movement, reordering of scene, etc. to get this action as exciting as possible.
- I made a lot of alterations from when the Clones show up through to the Dooku fight so that we more or less stay with Anakin/Kenobi/Padme through most of it, keeping the focus a little tighter.
- Lots of cuts to the Dooku duel, especially when he fights Anakin. It's a lot shorter, but also a lot more intense, and Dooku comes off as a more serious threat.
- Yoda no longer shows up at the end of this sequence. I had to mask him out of a couple of shots when Padme arrives.
- After that it's basically the same, except for removing 3PO and R2 from the wedding scene.
Faneditor Name:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
2002
Original Running Time:
142 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
107 minutes
Subtitles Available:
Available in HD:
Synopsis:
After 15+ years of noodling, I've finally landed on a version of the prequels that I prefer. The main concept is to fix AOTC, the weakest link that brings down the other two, and make TPM lead into it, and ROTS build from it.

The biggest problem I have with these movies isn’t necessarily the content. There’s some stuff I’m not crazy about, such as midichlorians and some of Anakin’s whiney, creepy behavior, sure. However, the biggest problem to me is in the minute to minute pacing. They just feel… weird? Off? Something’s not quite right in every single scene. The most egregious example is AOTC, where seemingly nobody talks like a human being, characters stand around clearly waiting for their cue, and much of the action mostly falls flat.

Even worse, the love story doesn’t work, partly because I think they focused on it way too much. The dialogue between Anakin and Padme is shockingly strange, but the chemistry between the two actors is definitely there. Just letting them spend time together would have sold it enough.

So I’m taking another crack at the Prequels, but I’m starting with AOTC, the biggest problem with the trilogy. Once I get that working, I can build up to it with TPM, and off of it with ROTS. The idea here is to go into every scene and remove that disjointed, stagey, unnatural feeling that permeates the film. Action will be pumped up and pacey, conversations will have that zing that they’re lacking, and the movie will move along at a steady pace.

There’s a lot of PT edits out there, and I’m not the most technically accomplished editor to tackle them. However, I think my particular knack for action and pace (I’m aware of my strengths as well as my faults) will make these stand out.
Intention:
Improve the pacing of all three films to feel more in-line with the originals. Flesh out the story and characters with deleted scenes and content from other Star Wars projects.
Other Sources:
Star Wars Soundtracks
Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi
My own voice
Special Thanks:
artisdead
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
Overall goals:
- Make Anakin and Padme's love story more natural and remove the heavy focus on the "forbidden romance" element. The whole story of the prequels hinges on their romance being believable.
- Anakin is no longer creepy or leers at Padme, he's just a little awkward but charming.
- Anakin no longer whines about Obi-Wan or the council, but it's still clear he is bothered by them.
- Adjust the awkward editing throughout the film. Long silences, odd framing, or scenes that move at a slow or unnatural pace are all adjusted.
- Tighten up the action editing for more thrilling sequences. Added a lot of zooms, crops, camera movement, and combined shots to accomplish this.
Cuts and Additions:
More scene specific stuff (this isn't every change, barely two minutes go by without some sort of edit or effect, but this is the big noticeable stuff)
- Speed up the landing platform sequence, removing unnecessary dialogue or shots. Also add zooms and camera movement to make the sequence more exciting and dangerous.
- Add in the senate deleted scene, with some trims for pacing.
- Add in the Anakin/Kenobi duel flashbacks from the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, with adjusted color timing and music to help it blend into the film better.
- Many cuts made to Anakin and Padme meeting again, making it a less awkward exchanged. Oddly, this sequence has the most new VFX shots to get it to function correctly out of the whole thing, and it's just people talking.
- Remove Jango/Zam scene, so the first time we see Zam is when they load up the assassin droid.
- Many cuts to Anakin and Kenobi's dialogue while Padme is sleeping for pacing. Cut the odd "intoxicating" dialogue from Anakin.
- Lots of action and pacing editing to the coruscant chase, slimming down the banter to the best parts.
- Lots of trims to the Dexter's Diner sequence.
- Reordered a lot of the back and forth between Anakin's story and Kenobi's story to keep the focus where it needs to be longer.
- Add in the dinner with Padme's family, with some trims.
- Remove the scene with Yoda and the Younglings and Yoda/Kenobi/Mace discussion in the temple before Kenobi leaves.
- Replace that scene with an edited version of the Mace/Kenobi landing platform scene.
- Removed the second half of the meadow scene and the fireside confession from the love story. The focus is now more on Padme slowly falling for Anakin as opposed to "we can't be together!"
- Padme no longer stops the kiss, and we now crossfade to Anakin standing on the balcony in the morning. It avoids an awkward transition back to Kamino and also insinuates that they may have had... aggressive negotiations.
- Lots of cuts and trims to the Jango fight for pacing and intensity.
- Removed the Jango/Kenobi space battle. I love the sonic bomb things as much as the next guy, but we really don't need another action scene here given the way I've recut things.
- 3PO is no longer in the film, and I intend to remove him from TPM as well so he doesn't show up until he's serving Padme in ROTS. Remove him with a combination of careful edits and cropping and some masking.
- Cut Anakin and Padme's dialogue as he's leaving to find his mother. The moment feels a bit more epic without the dialogue.
- Removed the iris in transition from Anakin killing the tuskens to Yoda, it now smash cuts to Yoda. It feels a bit more violent and upsetting.
- HEAVY trims to the droid factory sequence. It's not a particularly good action scene, but it feels a little awkward without it.
- Reinstate the meeting with Dooku and the sentencing deleted scenes to slow things down for a second before we hit the last act of the movie, which is basically non-stop action. I also wanted to show Padme attempting to resolve things peacefully as I think that's important to her overall character.
- The "Across the stars" scene is heavily edited. It now goes:
"Don't be frightened"
"I'm not afraid to die. I love you. I truly deeply love you, and before we die I want you to know"
Kiss, then into the arena.
- Basically from here on out it's major cuts, zooms, extra camera movement, reordering of scene, etc. to get this action as exciting as possible.
- I made a lot of alterations from when the Clones show up through to the Dooku fight so that we more or less stay with Anakin/Kenobi/Padme through most of it, keeping the focus a little tighter.
- Lots of cuts to the Dooku duel, especially when he fights Anakin. It's a lot shorter, but also a lot more intense, and Dooku comes off as a more serious threat.
- Yoda no longer shows up at the end of this sequence. I had to mask him out of a couple of shots when Padme arrives.
- After that it's basically the same, except for removing 3PO and R2 from the wedding scene.

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Spence does a fantastic job here, but it's still Attack of the Clones, so I found myself deeply bored and I unfortunately bailed halfway through. This is not the fault of Spence at all, it's the fault of the source movie.

One criticism to the edit I have though is something that I assume applies to most edits of Attack of the Clones: When you remove the "forbidden love" conflict between Anakin and Padme, while we are free of cringe-inducing poetry from Anakin, we are also left with... absolutely nothing. Now granted, the forbidden love subplot was also incredibly boring and painful, but at least there was conflict and an interesting dilemma regarding the Jedi code, attachment, and duty. Now the Naboo sections are even more superfluous. Also, while I understand the inclusion of the deleted scenes with Padme's family, they're just sooooo booorrrinnggg. ONCE AGAIN, these problems exist in most other AOTC edits as well, so if you're looking for the right AOTC edit, these shouldn't be a factor in narrowing your choice down.
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A Great edit of Attack of the Clones, this being my least favorite Star Wars movie it sat in my collectors box unused I watched this one thinking I would split runtime in two days, but to my surprise I finished it in one sitting.
The biggest changes were obviously toning down Anikan's creep factor there is still Anikan/Padme cheese but less creepy Anikan. I didn't know that this movie had deleted scenes with Padme's family; and was pleasantly surprised at how it added to the growing romance.
I will admit though I miss the ship battle between Obi Wan and Jengo Fett in space. as well as the Yoda light saber fight, I know many people didn't like it but it was always a highlight to me getting to see why Yoda must have been a serious threat in his youth. That's just my taste though what I don't miss is C3PO humor as a enemy droid and the very fake factory scene.
Everything has a better flow much like Spence's TPM edit. I didn't notice any jarring changes in dialogue this time around though.
Highly recommend this to anyone looking for a better flowing less cringe Anikan no Yoda fight of AOTC.

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This is a great Fanedit of AOTC.

I sat down to watch just a few minutes of this. Ended up watching the whole thing lol.

This flows very well.

I enjoyed the added scene from Obi-Wan. The stuff with Padme's family, I had never seen before. That was a good surprise. However, I skipped over most of the Anakin/Padme cheese. But, I get it why it had to stay in.

I recommend this and it will be a replacement for the vanilla AOTC in my Star Wars movie collection.

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You have done an edit that works perfect. The added scenes add to the progression of the story. Padme and Anakin's love story flows better. Removing the Count Dooku, Yoda fight and tightening the Anakin, Obi-Wan, Dooku battle does make Dooku feel like a more serious threat. Flawless victory.

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This is a review for all three of the Spence prequels, which I will copy and paste onto each of their pages, since what I have to say about the application of the editing process applies to all three.

First of all, the cuts, both visual and audio, are the most seamless of any of the fanedits I've seen thus far. For the most part, unless you know what was already there or not there, it plays out as though this is what was intended. I can't think of an overtly awkward cut. Greater care was taken here to overlap the dialogue and music on the cut or over a different shot, which helps remove that abrupt feeling some other fan edits tend to have when material is removed or scenes rearranged, and it also improves the performances and the pace. The movies move at break-neck speed, perhaps maybe a little too edit-happy, nearly every shot it seems is trimmed even if just a few frames at the beginning and end of the shot. It's okay to sometimes see the full movement of an action, it's okay to see a character thinking before they speak, or to let a moment breathe a little, and I don't necessarily understand some things that were cut or trimmed, however those are all minor personal differences I have with the edit, doesn't impact the skill on display, and it does not take away from the enjoyment (I'm just nitpicky because I've see the movies, in various forms, too many times). They are a vast improvement over the original versions. Knocking off nearly 30 mins from Attack of the Clones while still adding the deleted scenes is impressive.

Changes that stuck out as superior to other fanedits: The transitions of the scenes involving Anakin/Padme on Naboo; Palpatine's physical change in ROTS (still somewhat inexplicable but not much can be done about it except to leave it as is, which I honestly would be fine with); The handling of the gungans and JarJar; all of the battle scenes; removal of all dialogue during the Obi-Wan/Anakin Duel; I liked the added Anakin introduction from the Obi-Wan show; I think all of the Delegation of 2000 scenes were included here, while other edits use some or most but not all, I think they're all important and needed; C-3P0 is removed from TPM and mostly removed from AOTC, while inferred to be a different protocol droid through a change of voice in the brief scene he does appear in. Both those changes are welcome. However, I don't understand why some of his lines in ROTS were retained and others weren't. I don't know why he doesn't inform Padme that Anakin returned to the Jedi Temple while his line about "getting the hang of this flying business" (considering his removal from AOTC) is still there.

Changes I wasn't a fan of (this effected my rating for Narrative): The removal of dialogue informing us Anakin has never won or even finished a pod race. I understand there's awkward kid acting, but that information drives up the tension of the race and is needed; The removal of the asteroid scene in AOTC, sure it's unnecessary but it's fun and the seismic charges are cool; The conveyor belt scene is a little too short, could have still cut it considerably while keeping some of the tension of Padme's impending doom, or just remove it altogether; The birth scene in ROTS should have been left as is, including Frankenstein Vader. The reference is deliberate, and only his "NOOOOO" needs to be altered/removed, the intercutting is somewhat altered as well which diminishes the full impact of the scene IMHO.

Overall, these are now my current go-to for TPM and AOTC (though HAL9000's Approaching Storm is also a great edit, I think this one beats it if only for the way the Naboo sequence plays out), I think ROTS is a tie with DominicCobb's, there are things I prefer in each one, but I really like the new tone set by DominicCobb by using more music from the OT. In any case, great job to Spence! Clearly a skilled editor, I had a great time watching these. Thanks for your work!

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Owner's reply May 13, 2024

Thanks for the kind reviews!

Side note, but I also think DominicCobb still has the best ROTS edit.

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Wow! Once again, fan editing proves that small changes and tweaking the details can vastly improve the final outcome. Spence, great work with this edit!

I want to share what was my favorite change. There is a small scene where Anakin is leaving to find his mom, and Padme comes out with him. When that happens in the Original Cut, we hear a voice over of Anakin telling Padme to stay with the Lars family.
In Spences version, there is no dialogue, just the shadows of Anakin and Padme looking at each other as the music swells.
That small change made the scene actually emotional and powerful, instead of pointless. I loved that detail!

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