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Star Wars: The Phantom Menace 'Faster, More Intense'
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Original Movie/Show Title:
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Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1999
Original Running Time:
133 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
104 minutes
Time Cut:
34 minutes
Time Added:
2 minutes
Available in HD:
Additional Links:
Synopsis:
This edit takes many popular fan edits of the Phantom Menace and combines their best ideas into one "ultimate cut" of the film. It's the same story you remember but streamlined: with a quicker, lighter pace and no pointless distractions.
Intention:
While The Phantom Menace is possibly the most fanedited film of all time, no one fanedit has ever fully satisfied me. I feel they all have their strengths and weaknesses, so I set out to make a cut that curates edits from various fanedits to match my vision for the film.
Additional Notes:
A specific emphasis was cutting down the opening "Act" of the film on Naboo as much as possible, so that we meet Anakin about the same time we met Luke in the original Star Wars. What once dragged on for quite a while now feels like an action-packed prologue. Other goals included improving characterization and plot progression across the board and toning down humorous moments that undercut dramatic scenes.
Other Sources:
While some of the cuts were recreated by myself, I confess that many of them were cribbed directly from the source material: the original fanedits (with permission)
Fanedits used include:
Hal9000’s 'Cloak of Deception' (primary source)
The Phantom Editor's 'The Phantom Edit' (audio only)
l8wrtr’s 'Shadow of the Sith' (inspiration only)
Fanedits used include:
Hal9000’s 'Cloak of Deception' (primary source)
The Phantom Editor's 'The Phantom Edit' (audio only)
l8wrtr’s 'Shadow of the Sith' (inspiration only)
Special Thanks:
Initabsolute
Hal9000
l8wrtr
Mike Nichols (The Phantom Editor)
MalàStrana
TM2YC
George Lucas
Lucasfilm and Disney
Hal9000
l8wrtr
Mike Nichols (The Phantom Editor)
MalàStrana
TM2YC
George Lucas
Lucasfilm and Disney
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
I've put an emphasis on matching the professionalism of the original edits I used as sources and wanted to make the film a suitable replacement for someone who has never seen the Phantom Menace before.
While I tried to improve the storytelling and characterization through editing, I did strive to keep everything relatively 'canonical' so you can watch other Star Wars media like The Clone Wars without skipping a beat.
While I tried to improve the storytelling and characterization through editing, I did strive to keep everything relatively 'canonical' so you can watch other Star Wars media like The Clone Wars without skipping a beat.
Cuts and Additions:
A full cutlist is available at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aCPmH_GOg-mbv45gcUij8K2R2krliZJAakBAnsnOG8k/edit?usp=sharing
Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Genre:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1999
Original Running Time:
133 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
104 minutes
Time Cut:
34 minutes
Time Added:
2 minutes
Available in HD:
Additional Links:
Synopsis:
This edit takes many popular fan edits of the Phantom Menace and combines their best ideas into one "ultimate cut" of the film. It's the same story you remember but streamlined: with a quicker, lighter pace and no pointless distractions.
Intention:
While The Phantom Menace is possibly the most fanedited film of all time, no one fanedit has ever fully satisfied me. I feel they all have their strengths and weaknesses, so I set out to make a cut that curates edits from various fanedits to match my vision for the film.
Additional Notes:
A specific emphasis was cutting down the opening "Act" of the film on Naboo as much as possible, so that we meet Anakin about the same time we met Luke in the original Star Wars. What once dragged on for quite a while now feels like an action-packed prologue. Other goals included improving characterization and plot progression across the board and toning down humorous moments that undercut dramatic scenes.
Other Sources:
While some of the cuts were recreated by myself, I confess that many of them were cribbed directly from the source material: the original fanedits (with permission)
Fanedits used include:
Hal9000’s 'Cloak of Deception' (primary source)
The Phantom Editor's 'The Phantom Edit' (audio only)
l8wrtr’s 'Shadow of the Sith' (inspiration only)
Fanedits used include:
Hal9000’s 'Cloak of Deception' (primary source)
The Phantom Editor's 'The Phantom Edit' (audio only)
l8wrtr’s 'Shadow of the Sith' (inspiration only)
Special Thanks:
Initabsolute
Hal9000
l8wrtr
Mike Nichols (The Phantom Editor)
MalàStrana
TM2YC
George Lucas
Lucasfilm and Disney
Hal9000
l8wrtr
Mike Nichols (The Phantom Editor)
MalàStrana
TM2YC
George Lucas
Lucasfilm and Disney
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
I've put an emphasis on matching the professionalism of the original edits I used as sources and wanted to make the film a suitable replacement for someone who has never seen the Phantom Menace before.
While I tried to improve the storytelling and characterization through editing, I did strive to keep everything relatively 'canonical' so you can watch other Star Wars media like The Clone Wars without skipping a beat.
While I tried to improve the storytelling and characterization through editing, I did strive to keep everything relatively 'canonical' so you can watch other Star Wars media like The Clone Wars without skipping a beat.
Cuts and Additions:
A full cutlist is available at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aCPmH_GOg-mbv45gcUij8K2R2krliZJAakBAnsnOG8k/edit?usp=sharing
Trusted Reviewer review
1 review
(Updated: October 17, 2017)
Overall rating
8.7
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
8.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
8.0
I may be going against the crowd a bit here, but I'm sorry to say that for me this isn't "it". Although in many ways this is a great edit, just like other edits of EP1 I feel that there are pros and cons to watching one or the other. Certainly the editor has made an excellent effort in trying to combine the best parts of many different cuts (although I have not seen all of his sources), but, in my opinion, there is still room for improvement. Part of that is just personal preference; as I'm sure most would agree, even though 90% of fans universally concur on most things about the prequels (eg. Gungan racism is acceptable racism), we all probably differ slightly on other things, and therefore have different ideas on what our ultimate cut would be. Here are a few of my quibbles, some just personal:
- I believe sistros has also mentioned this, but Amidala's confrontation with the Viceroy after being captured is certainly quite jarring when we cut back to them, finding that the droids are automatically defeated.
- Although cutting the underwater scene with the Gungans was well done, I think that without it the army suddenly deciding to help them after a short plea comes across as a little bit of a Dues Ex Machina.
- I can't quite put my finger on what this is down to, but I really enjoyed L8wrtr's cut of the podrace, whereas I felt that this one dragged somewhat. It could just be that I was irritated by Jar Jars intermittent exclamations.
- This is half positive and half negative, and in no way something I blame the editor for: I really didn't realise how much I hated Jar Jar until I watched this, partly because other editors are quite gun-ho when cutting him out. So I really wish there could have been a lot less of him, but at the same time, I think the editor was wise to keep him in, and for just the right amount. Doing so allowed him to be established as a character and therefore make it less strange that this creature follows them around for the whole movie. The fact of the matter is that Jar Jar is a main character and unfortunately plays an integral part in the story. You have to choose between eliminating the most annoying character in the movie and sacrificing the narrative, or keeping him in, but giving the story a more cohesive flow. It drove me nuts, but I believe the editor made a wise choice. A good edit should be an edit that someone who's never seen the film before can watch and follow without any WTH moments.
- My only comment on the editing, which for the most part was superb, is there were I believe maybe a handful (if that) of what I would consider to be "obvious" cuts, some of which were made more noticable by a change in volume level.
- Finally, I would personally have left the celebration at the end. I think it's better to end on the "but who was defeated? Master or the apprentice?" scene.
A side note regarding some edits: There's a deleted scene in which Qui-gon encounters one of Darth Maul's probe droids. Some editors choose to insert this scene, and I'm glad they do as the film is better for it. However, it really bothers me that the transition is always noticeable due to the fact that the colours are different. I'm not sure how much can be done about this, but it honestly would be made so much better if some colour correction could be used so that it syncs up better with the rest of the movie.
I feel I have been chiefly negative, so I'd like to close on a high note. Despite this not being my go to version of this film, it really is a very good edit. Certainly one of the slickest I've come across. If I'm familiar with a film, I sometimes can't tell if the cut is bad, or if I'm just not used to a scene being absent, but with this I often noticed when something was missing and yet it still felt very natural (I would often nod to myself in silent approval).
I would also just like to say well done, Octoroxx, and thank you for making this available (and the same for those whose work laid the foundation). You clearly put a lot of work into this and it seems a lot of people consider this to be their definitive Episode I; it's easy to see why since the edit is of high quality and many sensible decisions were made in favour of both the pacing and the narrative. This is certainly an edit that I would recommend and I look forward to viewing your work on episodes II and III!
- I believe sistros has also mentioned this, but Amidala's confrontation with the Viceroy after being captured is certainly quite jarring when we cut back to them, finding that the droids are automatically defeated.
- Although cutting the underwater scene with the Gungans was well done, I think that without it the army suddenly deciding to help them after a short plea comes across as a little bit of a Dues Ex Machina.
- I can't quite put my finger on what this is down to, but I really enjoyed L8wrtr's cut of the podrace, whereas I felt that this one dragged somewhat. It could just be that I was irritated by Jar Jars intermittent exclamations.
- This is half positive and half negative, and in no way something I blame the editor for: I really didn't realise how much I hated Jar Jar until I watched this, partly because other editors are quite gun-ho when cutting him out. So I really wish there could have been a lot less of him, but at the same time, I think the editor was wise to keep him in, and for just the right amount. Doing so allowed him to be established as a character and therefore make it less strange that this creature follows them around for the whole movie. The fact of the matter is that Jar Jar is a main character and unfortunately plays an integral part in the story. You have to choose between eliminating the most annoying character in the movie and sacrificing the narrative, or keeping him in, but giving the story a more cohesive flow. It drove me nuts, but I believe the editor made a wise choice. A good edit should be an edit that someone who's never seen the film before can watch and follow without any WTH moments.
- My only comment on the editing, which for the most part was superb, is there were I believe maybe a handful (if that) of what I would consider to be "obvious" cuts, some of which were made more noticable by a change in volume level.
- Finally, I would personally have left the celebration at the end. I think it's better to end on the "but who was defeated? Master or the apprentice?" scene.
A side note regarding some edits: There's a deleted scene in which Qui-gon encounters one of Darth Maul's probe droids. Some editors choose to insert this scene, and I'm glad they do as the film is better for it. However, it really bothers me that the transition is always noticeable due to the fact that the colours are different. I'm not sure how much can be done about this, but it honestly would be made so much better if some colour correction could be used so that it syncs up better with the rest of the movie.
I feel I have been chiefly negative, so I'd like to close on a high note. Despite this not being my go to version of this film, it really is a very good edit. Certainly one of the slickest I've come across. If I'm familiar with a film, I sometimes can't tell if the cut is bad, or if I'm just not used to a scene being absent, but with this I often noticed when something was missing and yet it still felt very natural (I would often nod to myself in silent approval).
I would also just like to say well done, Octoroxx, and thank you for making this available (and the same for those whose work laid the foundation). You clearly put a lot of work into this and it seems a lot of people consider this to be their definitive Episode I; it's easy to see why since the edit is of high quality and many sensible decisions were made in favour of both the pacing and the narrative. This is certainly an edit that I would recommend and I look forward to viewing your work on episodes II and III!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
User reviews
14 reviews
Overall rating
9.7
Audio/Video Quality
9.6(14)
Audio Editing
9.7(14)
Visual Editing
9.7(14)
Narrative
9.9(14)
Enjoyment
9.7(14)
Overall rating
9.3
Audio/Video Quality
7.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
This is probably one of the best fan edits I've seen out of the star wars movies. Doesn't change the core of the movie at all, just makes it flow 1000x better. Outstanding work on making this not only watchable, but actually fun!
Only complaint is I'm not sure what source this edit is using but it is clearly not the superior HDTV version of the film. It can look a little soft and dull at times. But it's a minor complaint
Only complaint is I'm not sure what source this edit is using but it is clearly not the superior HDTV version of the film. It can look a little soft and dull at times. But it's a minor complaint
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
I have now watched this edit more times than I have watched the theatrical. I used to have a hard time picking between Hal9000, Q2, L8wrtr, and seciors edits. With this, the best of those edits is combined into the quintessential TPM viewing experience. I never feels like a fanedit. Rather, it just feels like how TPM should have been edited in the first place. Jar Jar is there, but it doesn't feel like he's taking over the whole movie. The juvenile humor is toned down but not to the point that the edit is completely joyless. Rather, the humor is more in line with the humor from the OT series. All in all, a very balanced, well-paced (which is hard to do with TPM especially) edit that just feels like Star Wars.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
Masterful editing here. The final battles feel a bit light in terms of connection to characters due to removed dialogue.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
9.0
...well, I think I must echo the various praise this edit has received. Takes some of the best ideas from the various other editors over the years and combines with a few new ones, and seamlessly. An excellent cut of the film: keeps its strengths, trims its weaknesses. Very very good. This is easily in the top three cuts of Episode I that I've seen (7 of them so far).
My enjoyment score is personal and of a nitpicky nature; you can't go wrong with this one.
My enjoyment score is personal and of a nitpicky nature; you can't go wrong with this one.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
(Updated: July 12, 2022)
Overall rating
8.5
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
8.0
Visual Editing
8.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
8.0
Bottom line: This is the best fanedit for The Phantom Menace I've seen. I've seen Phantom Editor's, Q2's, and l8wrtr’s. Octoroxx's is the smoothest, least "fanedit-y" edit available for this film, in my opinion. I started watching Hal9000's but was put off by the title change in the opening crawl.
More comments: As I've gotten older and married, and have a son with a second on the way, my enjoyment of the prequel trilogy has matured from childlike wonder, to sophomoric criticism, back to childlike wonder. Lucas wasn't trying to make Vertigo (another movie I love). He was making a prequel to his adventure story magnum opus. And it was, and is, for children (and, in my opinion, for their fathers). As well done as Octoroxx's edit is, it still cuts too much for me. Music sounds unavoidably chopped. Rearranged and heavily cut scenes sometimes appear abrupt or odd (throne room capture of the Viceroy). I now know that I may never see a fanedit I'll enjoy more than the retail DVD version of The Phantom Menace. And that's OK! If you want to try a fanedit of The Phantom Menace, this is the one. Well done Octoroxx. It was your relative editing conservatism that made this edit my favorite, even though I just like the original film too much.
More comments: As I've gotten older and married, and have a son with a second on the way, my enjoyment of the prequel trilogy has matured from childlike wonder, to sophomoric criticism, back to childlike wonder. Lucas wasn't trying to make Vertigo (another movie I love). He was making a prequel to his adventure story magnum opus. And it was, and is, for children (and, in my opinion, for their fathers). As well done as Octoroxx's edit is, it still cuts too much for me. Music sounds unavoidably chopped. Rearranged and heavily cut scenes sometimes appear abrupt or odd (throne room capture of the Viceroy). I now know that I may never see a fanedit I'll enjoy more than the retail DVD version of The Phantom Menace. And that's OK! If you want to try a fanedit of The Phantom Menace, this is the one. Well done Octoroxx. It was your relative editing conservatism that made this edit my favorite, even though I just like the original film too much.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital