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Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut Redux
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Original Release Date:
1980/2006
Original Running Time:
PAL = 370; NTSC = 386 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
PAL 110; NTSC 115 minutes
Time Cut:
26 minutes
Time Added:
2-3 minutes
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Synopsis:
Perhaps the most exhaustive and complete reworking of Superman II to date. Combining footage from the original Lester cut, the 2006 “Donner Cut” and selected footage from Superman The Movie, along with extensive special effects corrections, this is the movie that Richard Donner never got to make, the movie you always wanted.
Intention:
To improve on my first edit of Superman II. To create a cut that I can watch instead of the Donner cut, and as an alternative to the Theatrical Cut. To tie in with STM more closely than either the DC or LC.
Release Information:
- DVD
- DVD
- DVD
- DVD
Special Features:
Dual Layer – Motion menu’s, Trailer, Alternate ending, Deleted Scene, Alternate “Villains return to Daily Planet” scene, Seamless branching option (watch either blank bullets or pink bear scene), “I am General Zod” music video, Credits/ Disclaimer, Resources/ Also Available.
Single Layer – Motion menu’s, Trailer, “I am General Zod” music video, Credits/ Disclaimer, Resources/ Also Available.
Single Layer – Motion menu’s, Trailer, “I am General Zod” music video, Credits/ Disclaimer, Resources/ Also Available.
Editing Details:
Over 50 new or digitally altered shots, A new ending, 2 restored deleted scenes, Thorne music cue’s and LC audio used where possible, Removal of modern footage/ bad effects from DC, Extensive recolouring throughout, Soundtrack rebuilt in some sections.
Cuts and Additions:
DC=Donner Cut, LC=Lester Cut, STM=Superman the Movie, DS=Deleted Scene
Black and white WB logo, New Reeve dedication (to match Unsworth dedication STM)
LC – space intro
DC – Zod trial and Phantom Zone (poorer effects shots of the PZ removed, explosion shot flipped back to correct way around)
STM – Lois dead/ SM turns back time (changed shots to show SM reversing his actions with XK-101 rocket, added extra “Forbidden” dialogue from STM theatrical cut)
DC – SM chases XK-101 and launches into space (new shot of SM throwing rocket added)
DC/LC – Villains released by XK-101 (DC poor star backdrops painted out, zoomed shot to remove planet)
STM/DC – Credits (Reeve receives top billing, Fan-editors credit added)
DC – Daily Planet intro (Lois goofy reaction cut, Lois jumping out of window cut, new newspaper close up added)
DC – Lex and Otis in prison (added “Life plus 25″ LC audio)
LC – Moon sequence (trimmed Mission Control humour, Zod vs cosmonaut as in DC)
DC – Lex escapes from prison (added LC wave to Otis, trimmed bickering in balloon)
LC – Niagara rescue (trimmed for plot continuity, removed crowd reactions by rebuilding score and sound effects)
DC – Lex approaches Fortress.
DC – Lex enters Fortress (climbing with Eve cut)
DC/LC — Lex activates control panel (Jor-El de-coloured, Villains are displayed in education crystal viewer, crystal viewer added to wide shot for continuity, NO full body Jor-El )
LC – Lex heads South (re-worked dialogue so that the 3 sets of alpha waves are just appearing, and not like Lex has seen them before but only just connected them to the villains)
LC – Lois jumps into the river (“You’re what I thought was SM” cut)
LC – Villains arrive (“a very strange surface” removed)
DC – Blank bullets (removed changing Reeve appearance, removed reference to DP jump)
LC – Cops encounter villains (“Holy skunk sweat” removed, Zod takes the gun of the cop a super speed (new effect added), end with cops reaction as in DC)
DC – Lovers fly North
LC – Non stands guard (75% audio completely rebuilt to remove Non’s grunts)
LC – Bar confrontation (Added Motorhead’s “Metropolis” to the jukebox, ends at “These humans are beginning to bore me”)
LC – SM shows Lois the crystal (removed Lois’ “Especially around dinner time”)
LC – SM gets dinner
DC – Newsbeat/ Army encounter 1
LC – SM & Lois have dinner (trimmed dialogue, “He is you, it’s kinda confusing” , “…go change into something more comfortable”)
DC/LC – Army encounter 2
DC/LC – De-powering scene (trimmed SM “After all I’ve done for them…” and twitchy gestures after “humanity”, Lois from LC used, DC Lois removed from wide shot, new chamber emerging shot, Clark changes to SM shot added to allow for Reeve close-ups during de-powering, ends with LC “just say you love me”)
LC – Zod faces General/ Mt Rushmore
LC – Whitehouse approach
DC – Whitehouse attack (bullet hits added, Wilhelm scream added)
LC – Zod speaks to the President
LC – Dons Diner (“He knew” added from DC)
DC – Lex makes deal with the villains (Thorne cue restored)
LC/DC – Re-powing scene (Removed CGI Jor-El crystal face, trimmed goofy Reeve & Jor-El dialogue, Jor-El fades away without side step, new shirt rip, new SM flies from Fortress shot)
DC/LC – Daily Planet attack (Thorne cue restored, Non crushes camera cut)
LC – Care to step outside (Lois reaction shot DC)
DC/LC – Stand-off/ Slab throw (cut “Let him prove it”/ high pitched Reeve)
DC/LC – Metropolis battle (Non’s grunts during chase cut, LC humour removed, Hackman voice double replaced, DC SM emerges from bus throw shot cut, New SM flies away shot)
DC – Villains return to DP (ambient sound added from LC)
DC/LC – Villains fly to the FOS (LC score, “Trust you are not wasting my time” added in)
DC/LC — Lex drop off (“parachutes” cut), Villains land (Lex painted out)
DC/LC – Fortress battle (Non attacked with heat vision, finger beams changed to heat vision, new Zod flies at SM shot)
DC/LC – SM beaten (Lex’s finger painted out for continuity, LC SM in chamber added)
DC/LC – SM triumphs (sweat patch removed)
DS – Arctic Police (removed Smallville reference, dirt removed, music cue added)
DC – SM/Lois Arctic talk (removed FOS destruction)
DC – Balcony farewell.
NEW ENDING
[spoiler:2vvuaeiy]DC – Get a pizza scene (trimmed referenced to not remembering events, zoomed shot of Clark for continuity)[/spoiler:2vvuaeiy]
DS – Jimmy/Clark/Bully (dirt removed, trimmed Clark entering closet)
LC – Return to the Diner
LC – Return flag to the Whitehouse (working fountain added)
DC – Flyby and credits
Many other smaller trims and extensions, re-timed shots, audio tweaks and flipped shots too numerous to mention.
Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Genre:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1980/2006
Original Running Time:
PAL = 370; NTSC = 386 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
PAL 110; NTSC 115 minutes
Time Cut:
26 minutes
Time Added:
2-3 minutes
Additional Links:
Synopsis:
Perhaps the most exhaustive and complete reworking of Superman II to date. Combining footage from the original Lester cut, the 2006 “Donner Cut” and selected footage from Superman The Movie, along with extensive special effects corrections, this is the movie that Richard Donner never got to make, the movie you always wanted.
Intention:
To improve on my first edit of Superman II. To create a cut that I can watch instead of the Donner cut, and as an alternative to the Theatrical Cut. To tie in with STM more closely than either the DC or LC.
Release Information:
- DVD
- DVD
- DVD
- DVD
Special Features:
Dual Layer – Motion menu’s, Trailer, Alternate ending, Deleted Scene, Alternate “Villains return to Daily Planet” scene, Seamless branching option (watch either blank bullets or pink bear scene), “I am General Zod” music video, Credits/ Disclaimer, Resources/ Also Available.
Single Layer – Motion menu’s, Trailer, “I am General Zod” music video, Credits/ Disclaimer, Resources/ Also Available.
Single Layer – Motion menu’s, Trailer, “I am General Zod” music video, Credits/ Disclaimer, Resources/ Also Available.
Editing Details:
Over 50 new or digitally altered shots, A new ending, 2 restored deleted scenes, Thorne music cue’s and LC audio used where possible, Removal of modern footage/ bad effects from DC, Extensive recolouring throughout, Soundtrack rebuilt in some sections.
Cuts and Additions:
DC=Donner Cut, LC=Lester Cut, STM=Superman the Movie, DS=Deleted Scene
Black and white WB logo, New Reeve dedication (to match Unsworth dedication STM)
LC – space intro
DC – Zod trial and Phantom Zone (poorer effects shots of the PZ removed, explosion shot flipped back to correct way around)
STM – Lois dead/ SM turns back time (changed shots to show SM reversing his actions with XK-101 rocket, added extra “Forbidden” dialogue from STM theatrical cut)
DC – SM chases XK-101 and launches into space (new shot of SM throwing rocket added)
DC/LC – Villains released by XK-101 (DC poor star backdrops painted out, zoomed shot to remove planet)
STM/DC – Credits (Reeve receives top billing, Fan-editors credit added)
DC – Daily Planet intro (Lois goofy reaction cut, Lois jumping out of window cut, new newspaper close up added)
DC – Lex and Otis in prison (added “Life plus 25″ LC audio)
LC – Moon sequence (trimmed Mission Control humour, Zod vs cosmonaut as in DC)
DC – Lex escapes from prison (added LC wave to Otis, trimmed bickering in balloon)
LC – Niagara rescue (trimmed for plot continuity, removed crowd reactions by rebuilding score and sound effects)
DC – Lex approaches Fortress.
DC – Lex enters Fortress (climbing with Eve cut)
DC/LC — Lex activates control panel (Jor-El de-coloured, Villains are displayed in education crystal viewer, crystal viewer added to wide shot for continuity, NO full body Jor-El )
LC – Lex heads South (re-worked dialogue so that the 3 sets of alpha waves are just appearing, and not like Lex has seen them before but only just connected them to the villains)
LC – Lois jumps into the river (“You’re what I thought was SM” cut)
LC – Villains arrive (“a very strange surface” removed)
DC – Blank bullets (removed changing Reeve appearance, removed reference to DP jump)
LC – Cops encounter villains (“Holy skunk sweat” removed, Zod takes the gun of the cop a super speed (new effect added), end with cops reaction as in DC)
DC – Lovers fly North
LC – Non stands guard (75% audio completely rebuilt to remove Non’s grunts)
LC – Bar confrontation (Added Motorhead’s “Metropolis” to the jukebox, ends at “These humans are beginning to bore me”)
LC – SM shows Lois the crystal (removed Lois’ “Especially around dinner time”)
LC – SM gets dinner
DC – Newsbeat/ Army encounter 1
LC – SM & Lois have dinner (trimmed dialogue, “He is you, it’s kinda confusing” , “…go change into something more comfortable”)
DC/LC – Army encounter 2
DC/LC – De-powering scene (trimmed SM “After all I’ve done for them…” and twitchy gestures after “humanity”, Lois from LC used, DC Lois removed from wide shot, new chamber emerging shot, Clark changes to SM shot added to allow for Reeve close-ups during de-powering, ends with LC “just say you love me”)
LC – Zod faces General/ Mt Rushmore
LC – Whitehouse approach
DC – Whitehouse attack (bullet hits added, Wilhelm scream added)
LC – Zod speaks to the President
LC – Dons Diner (“He knew” added from DC)
DC – Lex makes deal with the villains (Thorne cue restored)
LC/DC – Re-powing scene (Removed CGI Jor-El crystal face, trimmed goofy Reeve & Jor-El dialogue, Jor-El fades away without side step, new shirt rip, new SM flies from Fortress shot)
DC/LC – Daily Planet attack (Thorne cue restored, Non crushes camera cut)
LC – Care to step outside (Lois reaction shot DC)
DC/LC – Stand-off/ Slab throw (cut “Let him prove it”/ high pitched Reeve)
DC/LC – Metropolis battle (Non’s grunts during chase cut, LC humour removed, Hackman voice double replaced, DC SM emerges from bus throw shot cut, New SM flies away shot)
DC – Villains return to DP (ambient sound added from LC)
DC/LC – Villains fly to the FOS (LC score, “Trust you are not wasting my time” added in)
DC/LC — Lex drop off (“parachutes” cut), Villains land (Lex painted out)
DC/LC – Fortress battle (Non attacked with heat vision, finger beams changed to heat vision, new Zod flies at SM shot)
DC/LC – SM beaten (Lex’s finger painted out for continuity, LC SM in chamber added)
DC/LC – SM triumphs (sweat patch removed)
DS – Arctic Police (removed Smallville reference, dirt removed, music cue added)
DC – SM/Lois Arctic talk (removed FOS destruction)
DC – Balcony farewell.
NEW ENDING
[spoiler:2vvuaeiy]DC – Get a pizza scene (trimmed referenced to not remembering events, zoomed shot of Clark for continuity)[/spoiler:2vvuaeiy]
DS – Jimmy/Clark/Bully (dirt removed, trimmed Clark entering closet)
LC – Return to the Diner
LC – Return flag to the Whitehouse (working fountain added)
DC – Flyby and credits
Many other smaller trims and extensions, re-timed shots, audio tweaks and flipped shots too numerous to mention.
Cover art by Booshman
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Trusted Reviewer reviews
4 reviews
Overall rating
8.5
Audio/Video Quality
8.7(3)
Audio Editing
9.0(2)
Visual Editing
9.0(3)
Narrative
7.5(2)
Enjoyment
8.5(4)
Overall rating
7.8
Audio/Video Quality
8.0
Audio Editing
8.0
Visual Editing
8.0
Narrative
7.0
Enjoyment
9.0
Quality as good as can be expected, a couple of edits (audio and video) stood out a little but none majorly so.
A very accomplished edit, definitely an improvement on either of the two main official versions. However I am not entirely sure if mixing certain elements of the Lester and Donner cuts, mainly the story of Lois realising Clark is Superman, work too well. In the mentioned case, she seems to forget her initial discovery (between her doodling on the newspaper and the two of them chatting at Niagara Falls before the boys is rescued) and decides to test him with the blank bullets after he seemingly proved his lack of powers during the river scene.
As for improvements, the ending is probably the most visible, am frankly surprised that this was not considered in 2006! Turning back time in STM is iconic to me, but just felt lazy when done again in the Donner Cut, as if that is how Superman can always solve a problem whereas here it felt like the villains escape could be a consequence of that "fix".
Looking forward to seeing other Superman II edits, not the least Booshman's upcoming new cut!
A very accomplished edit, definitely an improvement on either of the two main official versions. However I am not entirely sure if mixing certain elements of the Lester and Donner cuts, mainly the story of Lois realising Clark is Superman, work too well. In the mentioned case, she seems to forget her initial discovery (between her doodling on the newspaper and the two of them chatting at Niagara Falls before the boys is rescued) and decides to test him with the blank bullets after he seemingly proved his lack of powers during the river scene.
As for improvements, the ending is probably the most visible, am frankly surprised that this was not considered in 2006! Turning back time in STM is iconic to me, but just felt lazy when done again in the Donner Cut, as if that is how Superman can always solve a problem whereas here it felt like the villains escape could be a consequence of that "fix".
Looking forward to seeing other Superman II edits, not the least Booshman's upcoming new cut!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
9.2
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
9.0
This is a very good eit. The quality was great, the editing was superb. The narrative, I think, could have been a little better because of some choices I disagree with (Lois jumping in the falls instead of building, having a different Kryptonian in the Fortress of Solitude, recap at the beginning, Mt. Zodmore and so on) But all in all it was very good, I highly recommend it.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
DVD
(Updated: September 11, 2012)
Overall rating
7.0
Audio/Video Quality
N/A
Audio Editing
N/A
Visual Editing
N/A
Narrative
N/A
Enjoyment
7.0
Review by DwightFry78 — July 31, 2011 @ 1:34 am
*This rating was given before reviews were required*
*This rating was given before reviews were required*
(Updated: September 11, 2012)
Overall rating
9.0
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
N/A
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
N/A
Enjoyment
9.0
Review by bionicbob — October 27, 2010 @ 5:35 am
The eternal dilemma of a Fan Boy….
DC or MARVEL?
DC!!!
SUPERMAN or BATMAN?
SUPERMAN!!!
ADM’s Superman II Hybrid Cut
or
Booshman’s Superman II Redux Edit????
For the last couple of years, A Ditigal Man’s Hybrid Cut has been my definitive go-to Superman II movie. In fact, I had no real interest in even looking at another Superman II edit ever again until I read Booshman’s Thread.
A couple of things caught my mind’s eye…
–a new opening
–a new ending
–new visual effects
Intrigued, I knew I had to check it out! So the following are my observations after viewing the SL NTSC version. Warning, there may be some SPOILERS in my reviews. Also, my observations/reviews are simply based on personal preference and taste, and are in no way meant to be an attack or rip on the Editor.
Let’s get some of the easy things out of the way first….
Technically, in terms of sound and video quality, both are first rate! The soundtrack sounded awesome to me, I love all the new/old cues. For the most part, the video quality is excellent. Though some of the reinserted deleted scenes ( the elevator bully scene comes to mind) are of inferior quality compared to the rest of the movie, but I did not find it too distracting and it is acceptable considering the quality source.
So I would give the audio/video 9 out of 10.
Editing….
The newly crafted opening is fantastic! Recapping the events of Krypton’s demise, Kal-el’s journey to Earth, the final act of the first Superman movie are all masterfully accomplished. I would say this new opening is far superior to the Donner Cut. I absolutely LOVED it!!
Lex at the Fortress and the new intro of the Kryptonian Villains as narrated by Jor-el…. honestly, I think the Donner cuts works better. The picture seems murky and too dark when viewing through the crystal. I think the Donner version was brighter and cleaner, and more in keeping with the Fortress surroundings. But that is just my personal taste.
I was surprised to see the Blank Bullet scene. Mostly because this edit so carefully attempts to correct continuity errors, that this scene stands out like a sore thumb. Yes I agree the scene plays better than the Pink Bear sequence (and understand this scene is part of the branching option in the DL version) but the hotel room is clearly different and Clark looks completely different, that is sort of breaks the moment for me as a viewer. It stood out in the Donner Cut and it stand out here too for me.
The restructuring of the Fortress of Solitude De-Powering scene, cutting from and combining the Lester and Donner scenes is masterfully done. It is pretty much flawless. I think this version works perfectly. Bravo! Well done!!
The New Ending….
I actually had to watch this part three times before I could decide if I liked it or not.
In the end, I believe I do like it.
It is a clever solution and it plays into current comic book continuity.
Though, I think it would play even stronger if the whole balcony goodbye scene
had been greatly trimmed or removed completely. That scene plays with so much sadness
and finality, that it feels like a sudden left turn when the new ending plays out.
All in all, I like the vast majority of the edits, the selection and combination of Lester/Donner scenes.
I would give the actual editing 9 out of 10.
The New Special Effects….
I must admit, I was very nervous about this going in.
This takes a lot of courage and skill to attempt. And it needs to be good!
Or it will break the suspension of disbelief
and detract from the overall viewing experience.
I will say this, all the new effects were created solely to assist the story and improve the narration.
This is good.
The new effects involving the Deputy and the shot gun, I liked.
It works. Mostly because it so brief, you can buy into Zod using super speed to disarm the deputy.
The battle at Fortress of Solitude and the insertion of Heat Vision, also work extremely well.
The new digital Superman flying scenes did not work for me. They just look wrong for the period of the movie.
They clearly stand out.
The transformation/repowering of Clark back into Superman I am afraid just did not work for me either.
The idea is awesome. I love the whole concept. But it just looks too digital.
I think you could have accomplished the same idea by simply panning the camera down in close up from Clark’s face to his chest and have him rip it open revealing the shield.
Again, this is just personal taste.
So I would give a 10 out of 10 for the concept work,
but only 7 out of 10 for the execution of the new effects.
Overall, the entertainment value was wonderful.
There is some masterful and brilliant moments in this edit.
It was a true joy to watch.
My overall score would be 8.5 out of 10.
Thank You Booshman for some awesome movie fun!
The eternal dilemma of a Fan Boy….
DC or MARVEL?
DC!!!
SUPERMAN or BATMAN?
SUPERMAN!!!
ADM’s Superman II Hybrid Cut
or
Booshman’s Superman II Redux Edit????
For the last couple of years, A Ditigal Man’s Hybrid Cut has been my definitive go-to Superman II movie. In fact, I had no real interest in even looking at another Superman II edit ever again until I read Booshman’s Thread.
A couple of things caught my mind’s eye…
–a new opening
–a new ending
–new visual effects
Intrigued, I knew I had to check it out! So the following are my observations after viewing the SL NTSC version. Warning, there may be some SPOILERS in my reviews. Also, my observations/reviews are simply based on personal preference and taste, and are in no way meant to be an attack or rip on the Editor.
Let’s get some of the easy things out of the way first….
Technically, in terms of sound and video quality, both are first rate! The soundtrack sounded awesome to me, I love all the new/old cues. For the most part, the video quality is excellent. Though some of the reinserted deleted scenes ( the elevator bully scene comes to mind) are of inferior quality compared to the rest of the movie, but I did not find it too distracting and it is acceptable considering the quality source.
So I would give the audio/video 9 out of 10.
Editing….
The newly crafted opening is fantastic! Recapping the events of Krypton’s demise, Kal-el’s journey to Earth, the final act of the first Superman movie are all masterfully accomplished. I would say this new opening is far superior to the Donner Cut. I absolutely LOVED it!!
Lex at the Fortress and the new intro of the Kryptonian Villains as narrated by Jor-el…. honestly, I think the Donner cuts works better. The picture seems murky and too dark when viewing through the crystal. I think the Donner version was brighter and cleaner, and more in keeping with the Fortress surroundings. But that is just my personal taste.
I was surprised to see the Blank Bullet scene. Mostly because this edit so carefully attempts to correct continuity errors, that this scene stands out like a sore thumb. Yes I agree the scene plays better than the Pink Bear sequence (and understand this scene is part of the branching option in the DL version) but the hotel room is clearly different and Clark looks completely different, that is sort of breaks the moment for me as a viewer. It stood out in the Donner Cut and it stand out here too for me.
The restructuring of the Fortress of Solitude De-Powering scene, cutting from and combining the Lester and Donner scenes is masterfully done. It is pretty much flawless. I think this version works perfectly. Bravo! Well done!!
The New Ending….
I actually had to watch this part three times before I could decide if I liked it or not.
In the end, I believe I do like it.
It is a clever solution and it plays into current comic book continuity.
Though, I think it would play even stronger if the whole balcony goodbye scene
had been greatly trimmed or removed completely. That scene plays with so much sadness
and finality, that it feels like a sudden left turn when the new ending plays out.
All in all, I like the vast majority of the edits, the selection and combination of Lester/Donner scenes.
I would give the actual editing 9 out of 10.
The New Special Effects….
I must admit, I was very nervous about this going in.
This takes a lot of courage and skill to attempt. And it needs to be good!
Or it will break the suspension of disbelief
and detract from the overall viewing experience.
I will say this, all the new effects were created solely to assist the story and improve the narration.
This is good.
The new effects involving the Deputy and the shot gun, I liked.
It works. Mostly because it so brief, you can buy into Zod using super speed to disarm the deputy.
The battle at Fortress of Solitude and the insertion of Heat Vision, also work extremely well.
The new digital Superman flying scenes did not work for me. They just look wrong for the period of the movie.
They clearly stand out.
The transformation/repowering of Clark back into Superman I am afraid just did not work for me either.
The idea is awesome. I love the whole concept. But it just looks too digital.
I think you could have accomplished the same idea by simply panning the camera down in close up from Clark’s face to his chest and have him rip it open revealing the shield.
Again, this is just personal taste.
So I would give a 10 out of 10 for the concept work,
but only 7 out of 10 for the execution of the new effects.
Overall, the entertainment value was wonderful.
There is some masterful and brilliant moments in this edit.
It was a true joy to watch.
My overall score would be 8.5 out of 10.
Thank You Booshman for some awesome movie fun!
User reviews
15 reviews
Overall rating
9.4
Audio/Video Quality
9.3(10)
Audio Editing
9.6(10)
Visual Editing
9.4(10)
Narrative
9.3(10)
Enjoyment
9.4(15)
Overall rating
8.8
Audio/Video Quality
8.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
9.0
Excellent edit, loved the mashing between the Lester and Donner cut, it fixed nearly all the issues I had with the original films. Can't recommend it enough!
User Review
Format Watched
Digital
(Updated: December 31, 2020)
Overall rating
9.5
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
10.0
This edit was extraordinary! Most of all, I love the ending. Frankly, it's a miracle that booshman was able to craft a satisfying ending to Superman II - through the use of editing no less! I also appreciate that the blank bullets scene is left in (to heck with continuity!) and how the rocket scene from the end of SM1 is use to connect to SM2's story in this edit. This edit, more than any other I've seen, really shows the possibilities of fan edits to improve and transform the existing material into something even greater. Thanks booshman - highly recommended!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
DVD
(Updated: February 05, 2019)
Overall rating
9.4
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
8.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
8.0
One of the all time classic Superman 2 edits, this is the best of both worlds, Lester and Donner's best moments mashed together to form a coherent and consistent take on the definitive superhero movie sequel. I had a nostalgic blast watching Reeves, Kidder, Hackman and Stamp all take charge in their respective moments to captivate the viewer. The edits are sound, the audio mixing strong, the visual mixing sometimes is a bit of a see-saw, but when they work, they work.
I love the alternative ending too, audio mixing aside it ought to have been inserted to give the edit a more unique flavor.
If you can track this down, give it a go. This is a blueprint for how to develop a passion for fanediting and it sets the standard for what your project should aspire to be more like. If you can top this, you've got it made.
I love the alternative ending too, audio mixing aside it ought to have been inserted to give the edit a more unique flavor.
If you can track this down, give it a go. This is a blueprint for how to develop a passion for fanediting and it sets the standard for what your project should aspire to be more like. If you can top this, you've got it made.
Overall rating
9.5
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
i had this movie a long time ago, but my HDD crashed, but for a while i actually thought this was the original cut of the movie, i enjoyed it tremendously
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
DVD
Overall rating
9.3
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
7.0
Enjoyment
10.0
I saw Superman 2 when it was originally released and since I was 10 years old at the time I just loved it. It was not until years later that it didn't feel right to me. Why was the Father /Son aspect suddenly gone and replaced by his mother? I was not aware of the removal of the director until the commercially available release of the Donner Cut. So now we had two unsatisfying versions of a potentially great movie. The theatrical cut was not consistant with the first movie...and the Donner cut was plagued by bad CGI and a forced ending. I always knew that if someone was able to edit the 2 together that the movie would be almost perfect...certainly stronger than the 2 existing.
I was very excited about this version when I heard about it and by the time I became aware of the cut is was hard to find....luckily Booshman made it available again and I was able to experience it myself.
I will have to say it is just wonderful. I have some minor nitpicks but I believe they have to do with personal taste because I am sure that there are valid reasons to do it the way he did.
I suppose that there are no great solutions on how to handle the recap from STM in an effective way so it is overlong....and because there is no satisfying ending an editor either has to include the memory kiss (with a different office than has been establised earlier and a frailer looking Lois) or the silly turn back time ending, or do as Booshman has done and edit the Donner ending to appear as if the inconsolable Lois from the previous scene on the balcony has suddenly gotten it all together and is willing to play out the daily charade with Clark. Not any of them work. I suppose I would have preferred the "Super Kiss" version because although it is an absured super power (and how did he find out he could do that?) it is at least an ending that wraps it all up without turning back time again. Which seems callous that every time Superman has an issue he can just spin back the world and fix it. The ending used here makes Clark look like a jerk because he comes in with the same ol' bumbling having just seen the night before that Lois has a broken heart.
The added scenes while well done don't work for me either...especially Lex at the Fortress of Solitude. You mean to tell me that Superman's place of solace from his earthly worries is now acessible to the rest of the world including the police?
I have one last nitpick and that is the scene with Jor El when he is seeking to have his powers restored. It seems a lot of new cgi has been done to show Superman flying away after he is repowered. I don't know if that is necessary. First it looks worse than any of the phantom zone stuff in the Donner Cut...and also I think it is much more powerful to not show what happens ...so it adds excitement to him flying into Metropolis to confront the villians "Would you care to step outside?" I would have left the Donner version in tact or cut to the Daily Planet after the flash so we don't know what has happened.
Like I said this is an extraordinary edit and clearly a lot of hard work has gone into it. I will use it as my Superman 2 of reference from now on.
Any quibbles that I have with it are minor...and for that matter I could get rid of with a snip of my own.
It is just really excellent work and very enjoyable.
I was very excited about this version when I heard about it and by the time I became aware of the cut is was hard to find....luckily Booshman made it available again and I was able to experience it myself.
I will have to say it is just wonderful. I have some minor nitpicks but I believe they have to do with personal taste because I am sure that there are valid reasons to do it the way he did.
I suppose that there are no great solutions on how to handle the recap from STM in an effective way so it is overlong....and because there is no satisfying ending an editor either has to include the memory kiss (with a different office than has been establised earlier and a frailer looking Lois) or the silly turn back time ending, or do as Booshman has done and edit the Donner ending to appear as if the inconsolable Lois from the previous scene on the balcony has suddenly gotten it all together and is willing to play out the daily charade with Clark. Not any of them work. I suppose I would have preferred the "Super Kiss" version because although it is an absured super power (and how did he find out he could do that?) it is at least an ending that wraps it all up without turning back time again. Which seems callous that every time Superman has an issue he can just spin back the world and fix it. The ending used here makes Clark look like a jerk because he comes in with the same ol' bumbling having just seen the night before that Lois has a broken heart.
The added scenes while well done don't work for me either...especially Lex at the Fortress of Solitude. You mean to tell me that Superman's place of solace from his earthly worries is now acessible to the rest of the world including the police?
I have one last nitpick and that is the scene with Jor El when he is seeking to have his powers restored. It seems a lot of new cgi has been done to show Superman flying away after he is repowered. I don't know if that is necessary. First it looks worse than any of the phantom zone stuff in the Donner Cut...and also I think it is much more powerful to not show what happens ...so it adds excitement to him flying into Metropolis to confront the villians "Would you care to step outside?" I would have left the Donner version in tact or cut to the Daily Planet after the flash so we don't know what has happened.
Like I said this is an extraordinary edit and clearly a lot of hard work has gone into it. I will use it as my Superman 2 of reference from now on.
Any quibbles that I have with it are minor...and for that matter I could get rid of with a snip of my own.
It is just really excellent work and very enjoyable.
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