Tarantino Tales: Episode 8 - The Hateful Eight

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Original Movie/Show Title:
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Original Release Date:
2015
Original Running Time:
168 minutes
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Fanedit Running Time:
63 minutes
Available in HD:
Synopsis:
To create ten 60 mins Episodes from Quentin Tarantino's 10 films to date.
Intention:
Make a TV length edit of The Hateful Eight.
Additional Notes:
Link to the main Tarantino Tales listing on ifdb

Tarantino Tales by The Red Apple Crew (600 minutes)
Release Information:
Digital
Cuts and Additions:
Custom FE WARNING added
Red Apple Crew Logo added
FE LOGO added
“A bite from the Red Apple Crew Added”
Original music used for intro with some shots re-ordered.
“Wyoming 1877” caption added
Opening cuts to Major Warren as Stagecoach approaches and is truncated with a custom CRASH ZOOM into the opening titles.
Added Custom Titles for the series with Episode specific shots.
ACT ONE caption “The Bounty Hunters Picnic” added
CAST captions added to establishing shots to maintain episodic feel
First part of stagecoach ride trimmed.
We do not see Major Warren discussion outside the stagecoach
First part discussion is limited to points of banter to establish that
Warren and John Ruth know each other previously
The letter reading takes place
Doumergue is established as a nutjob
After John Ruth elbows Doumergue, edited to permit Warren a direct look while she lick her blood.
After Doumergue falls out of the stagecoach, the scene is trimmed to the essentials, and includes material from the Netflix Extended version.
Mannix’ appearance is re-edited as is his approach to the stagecoach which is far shorter.
Discussion focuses again ONLY on the plot elements required…The bounty, Mannix claim to be the Sherriff.
All songs removed from the journey to Minnie’s, with the stagecoach long shot now re-scored with the intro from “A gringo Like Me” from “Gunfight at Red Sands” by Ennio Morricone
Second part of stage coach ride removes reference to Warren destroying the POW camp, and most of Mannix’s marauders discussion is removed. Scene is truncated when Warren tells Mannix why HE joined the civil war.
JB Foley carefully synchronised throughout by creating custom portions to fade in and out of throughout the ride to maintain audio flow. NO SCORING was used to disguise any cuts in order to maintain the feel of the original movie.
ACT TWO caption added “Eight H8fuls Gather under Duress”
The stagecoach approach to Minnie’s is shortened requiring a scoring segue alteration.
As the stagecoach gets ready to empty out, a cutaway to an interior scene from the removed later flashback is used, with audio synchronised for continuity.
The next couple of minutes inter cut between the original arrival at Minnie’s and the later flashback version (which does not appear in this edit). This is done to quickly establish how many other protagonists are in Minnie’s PRIOR to John Ruth so that viewers are ahead of the game. This then permits truncated introductions to the new protagonists.
This is edited to NOT give away who is working with Doumergue.
The stable scene with Warren and “Bob” is shortened to permit JB to return directly to Minnie’s and to make Warren a tad more direct in his suspicions
Stable scene is split to permit intercutting with Minnie’s, thus facilitating massive removals from the interior of Minnie’s.
Scene return to Ruth and Oswaldo discussion with careful folley and dialogue trims as Oswaldo lays his hat down…this reduces the banter to ONLY what viewers and Ruth need to know.
Hard cut with foley smoothing BACK to the stables and Warren and “Bob” discussion,
Return to Minnie’s to a shortened version of the intro to “Joe Gage” discussion with Ruth. All we need to know is his name for later, and not the full back story. This makes Ruth appear far more focused and selfish.
The discussion is shortened ending with Ruth meeting the General which is interrupted by Mannix and JB finally entering Minnie’s.
As the door is again being closed, we return to the final part of the newly split stable scene with Warren and “Bob”.
Back inside Minnie’s, Mannix and Oswaldo’s discussion is carefully shortened and ends with “Nword in the stable” allowing for Warren’s entry into Minnie’s juxtaposed. There is no mention of the Lincoln letter, since it has not been mentioned, and is not mentioned either in the theatrical version, which is a continuity error.
As Warren and “Bob” close the door, overlapping dialogue from later in the movie is repurposed with inserts to permit establishing the relationship between Mannix and The General quickly over the hammering. This is a complex 55 secs of audio and visual sleight of hand.
As Warren finally enters and gets a coffee, this is now scored with “Primo Deserto” from “The Big Gundown” by Ennio Morricone, to heighten viewer’s empathy with Warrens growing suspicions.
ACT THREE caption “Mendacity at The Last Supper” is added.
As act three opens, dialogue plays in the background between Mannix and The General, to establish the bigotry.
This conversation is relocated to overlap, predominantly as audio, while the protagonist gathers for dinner. Mannix does not take his first seat in order to maintain protagonists poisoning as the scene is truncated. The letter is NOT revealed as a fake. This is a major change from the Theatrical versions and is done so to heighten the new ending.
Warren does not have an extended discussion at the table and the start of the discussion between Warren and the General is Intercut with “Bob’s” piano plating, which is carefully shortened while maintaining the melody, in order to GET TO THE POINT.
Warren’s tale about the General’s son, is trimmed in the centre section while maintaining musical integrity. The shooting is a hybrid of the flashback and original versions.
ACT FOUR caption added “desanguination at Hades Gate” added
New scoring using the Overture to The Hateful Eight is added to the first 80 secs of the fourth act to heighten the tension.
The removal of the General’s body is a complete new audio build of the scene.
Doumergue’s request to play the guitar, pick it up and begin signing is shortened as is the song that follows. Some scene repurposing of shots takes place to maintain protagonists positioning.
A clumsy music audio fade in of the track “Bestiality” from THE THING is smoothed by extending the track to earlier in its original cue and aligning it with where the cue starts in the Theatrical version, thus removing the awkward original fade in. This required the shots building up into the scene to be re-purposed and shortened slightly together with overlays shots of Mannix and Oswaldo lighting candles.
The consequences of the coffee playout uncut.#
The section where Warren interrogates the suspects is highly restructured while maintaining protagonist positioning. 43 edits are made with an additional 9 overlayed repurposed shots, and multiple dialogue trims and repositioning, including Mannix not naming Gage, since he was never told Gage’s name in this edit.
Warren derives enough evidence and not as much as in the Theatrical version, in order to still conclude who did what. Banter is significantly reduced.
Epilogue Caption and title “The Purgatory of the Damned” is added.
In order to place Joe gage in the correct position without extended banter, his request to sit down is moved right up the running order.
The convoluted discussions leading to a deal are removed and only the OFFER of a deal is made leading to the final shoot out.
The second poorly faded in music cue in the original is when Mannix starts shooting. It was VERY poorly faded in, almost as if they decided to truncate the scoring late in post-production. The music Cue is “Despair” from THE THING by Ennio Morricone. This piece now plays out far earlier as Jody emerges, and is blended into the portion original used and is then extended to continue to play until it naturally fades out.
Mannix fainting and Doumergue chopping off Ruth’s arm are removed, thus when Doumergue meets her fate, the shots of Ruth’s severed arm are removed or cropped out with some shot replacement repurposing where required.
Since in this version the LETTER is genuine, the final scene score with “Goodbye Colonel” from “For a Few Dollars More” by Ennio Morricone. This is a much more sombre track than the music used and required an audio rebuild for the screwing up of the letter which is now UNREAD, in a final act of defiant bigotry by Mannix.
Custom Credits added.
Added mid credit scene of flashback to Minnie’s from an abandoned opening.
Custom credits continue until a short post credit scene followed by Custom Logos.
Music used “Dopo La Congriua” from Django Unchained by Ennio Morricone and “A Gringo Like me” from “Gunfight at Red Sands” by Ennio Morricone.
Thanks credits added
Teaser


Trailer 1


Trailer 2


Trailer 3


Trailer 4

Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
2015
Original Running Time:
168 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
63 minutes
Available in HD:
Synopsis:
To create ten 60 mins Episodes from Quentin Tarantino's 10 films to date.
Intention:
Make a TV length edit of The Hateful Eight.
Additional Notes:
Link to the main Tarantino Tales listing on ifdb

Tarantino Tales by The Red Apple Crew (600 minutes)
Release Information:
Digital
Cuts and Additions:
Custom FE WARNING added
Red Apple Crew Logo added
FE LOGO added
“A bite from the Red Apple Crew Added”
Original music used for intro with some shots re-ordered.
“Wyoming 1877” caption added
Opening cuts to Major Warren as Stagecoach approaches and is truncated with a custom CRASH ZOOM into the opening titles.
Added Custom Titles for the series with Episode specific shots.
ACT ONE caption “The Bounty Hunters Picnic” added
CAST captions added to establishing shots to maintain episodic feel
First part of stagecoach ride trimmed.
We do not see Major Warren discussion outside the stagecoach
First part discussion is limited to points of banter to establish that
Warren and John Ruth know each other previously
The letter reading takes place
Doumergue is established as a nutjob
After John Ruth elbows Doumergue, edited to permit Warren a direct look while she lick her blood.
After Doumergue falls out of the stagecoach, the scene is trimmed to the essentials, and includes material from the Netflix Extended version.
Mannix’ appearance is re-edited as is his approach to the stagecoach which is far shorter.
Discussion focuses again ONLY on the plot elements required…The bounty, Mannix claim to be the Sherriff.
All songs removed from the journey to Minnie’s, with the stagecoach long shot now re-scored with the intro from “A gringo Like Me” from “Gunfight at Red Sands” by Ennio Morricone
Second part of stage coach ride removes reference to Warren destroying the POW camp, and most of Mannix’s marauders discussion is removed. Scene is truncated when Warren tells Mannix why HE joined the civil war.
JB Foley carefully synchronised throughout by creating custom portions to fade in and out of throughout the ride to maintain audio flow. NO SCORING was used to disguise any cuts in order to maintain the feel of the original movie.
ACT TWO caption added “Eight H8fuls Gather under Duress”
The stagecoach approach to Minnie’s is shortened requiring a scoring segue alteration.
As the stagecoach gets ready to empty out, a cutaway to an interior scene from the removed later flashback is used, with audio synchronised for continuity.
The next couple of minutes inter cut between the original arrival at Minnie’s and the later flashback version (which does not appear in this edit). This is done to quickly establish how many other protagonists are in Minnie’s PRIOR to John Ruth so that viewers are ahead of the game. This then permits truncated introductions to the new protagonists.
This is edited to NOT give away who is working with Doumergue.
The stable scene with Warren and “Bob” is shortened to permit JB to return directly to Minnie’s and to make Warren a tad more direct in his suspicions
Stable scene is split to permit intercutting with Minnie’s, thus facilitating massive removals from the interior of Minnie’s.
Scene return to Ruth and Oswaldo discussion with careful folley and dialogue trims as Oswaldo lays his hat down…this reduces the banter to ONLY what viewers and Ruth need to know.
Hard cut with foley smoothing BACK to the stables and Warren and “Bob” discussion,
Return to Minnie’s to a shortened version of the intro to “Joe Gage” discussion with Ruth. All we need to know is his name for later, and not the full back story. This makes Ruth appear far more focused and selfish.
The discussion is shortened ending with Ruth meeting the General which is interrupted by Mannix and JB finally entering Minnie’s.
As the door is again being closed, we return to the final part of the newly split stable scene with Warren and “Bob”.
Back inside Minnie’s, Mannix and Oswaldo’s discussion is carefully shortened and ends with “Nword in the stable” allowing for Warren’s entry into Minnie’s juxtaposed. There is no mention of the Lincoln letter, since it has not been mentioned, and is not mentioned either in the theatrical version, which is a continuity error.
As Warren and “Bob” close the door, overlapping dialogue from later in the movie is repurposed with inserts to permit establishing the relationship between Mannix and The General quickly over the hammering. This is a complex 55 secs of audio and visual sleight of hand.
As Warren finally enters and gets a coffee, this is now scored with “Primo Deserto” from “The Big Gundown” by Ennio Morricone, to heighten viewer’s empathy with Warrens growing suspicions.
ACT THREE caption “Mendacity at The Last Supper” is added.
As act three opens, dialogue plays in the background between Mannix and The General, to establish the bigotry.
This conversation is relocated to overlap, predominantly as audio, while the protagonist gathers for dinner. Mannix does not take his first seat in order to maintain protagonists poisoning as the scene is truncated. The letter is NOT revealed as a fake. This is a major change from the Theatrical versions and is done so to heighten the new ending.
Warren does not have an extended discussion at the table and the start of the discussion between Warren and the General is Intercut with “Bob’s” piano plating, which is carefully shortened while maintaining the melody, in order to GET TO THE POINT.
Warren’s tale about the General’s son, is trimmed in the centre section while maintaining musical integrity. The shooting is a hybrid of the flashback and original versions.
ACT FOUR caption added “desanguination at Hades Gate” added
New scoring using the Overture to The Hateful Eight is added to the first 80 secs of the fourth act to heighten the tension.
The removal of the General’s body is a complete new audio build of the scene.
Doumergue’s request to play the guitar, pick it up and begin signing is shortened as is the song that follows. Some scene repurposing of shots takes place to maintain protagonists positioning.
A clumsy music audio fade in of the track “Bestiality” from THE THING is smoothed by extending the track to earlier in its original cue and aligning it with where the cue starts in the Theatrical version, thus removing the awkward original fade in. This required the shots building up into the scene to be re-purposed and shortened slightly together with overlays shots of Mannix and Oswaldo lighting candles.
The consequences of the coffee playout uncut.#
The section where Warren interrogates the suspects is highly restructured while maintaining protagonist positioning. 43 edits are made with an additional 9 overlayed repurposed shots, and multiple dialogue trims and repositioning, including Mannix not naming Gage, since he was never told Gage’s name in this edit.
Warren derives enough evidence and not as much as in the Theatrical version, in order to still conclude who did what. Banter is significantly reduced.
Epilogue Caption and title “The Purgatory of the Damned” is added.
In order to place Joe gage in the correct position without extended banter, his request to sit down is moved right up the running order.
The convoluted discussions leading to a deal are removed and only the OFFER of a deal is made leading to the final shoot out.
The second poorly faded in music cue in the original is when Mannix starts shooting. It was VERY poorly faded in, almost as if they decided to truncate the scoring late in post-production. The music Cue is “Despair” from THE THING by Ennio Morricone. This piece now plays out far earlier as Jody emerges, and is blended into the portion original used and is then extended to continue to play until it naturally fades out.
Mannix fainting and Doumergue chopping off Ruth’s arm are removed, thus when Doumergue meets her fate, the shots of Ruth’s severed arm are removed or cropped out with some shot replacement repurposing where required.
Since in this version the LETTER is genuine, the final scene score with “Goodbye Colonel” from “For a Few Dollars More” by Ennio Morricone. This is a much more sombre track than the music used and required an audio rebuild for the screwing up of the letter which is now UNREAD, in a final act of defiant bigotry by Mannix.
Custom Credits added.
Added mid credit scene of flashback to Minnie’s from an abandoned opening.
Custom credits continue until a short post credit scene followed by Custom Logos.
Music used “Dopo La Congriua” from Django Unchained by Ennio Morricone and “A Gringo Like me” from “Gunfight at Red Sands” by Ennio Morricone.
Thanks credits added
Teaser


Trailer 1


Trailer 2


Trailer 3


Trailer 4

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This is a masterful edit of an insufferable movie IMO. The first time I saw the full version of this film in theaters, I hated it. Did the story QT was trying to tell really require me to spend THIS MUCH time with such a thoroughly unlikeable group of characters? Was all of this necessary? Further viewings didn't dispel me of this thought. As it turns out, no, it wasn't necessary, and Wraith has proved it. You get all the major beats and just enough intrigue for the payoff, such as it is. And most of the runtime is spent on the two most interesting characters; it's an improvement for sure. I didn't notice any rough editing, either in the sound or the visuals. I already found it to be an impressive bit of editing, but looking through the cutlist , there was a lot of invisible hard work to make everything play so seamlessly. If you didn't like The Hateful Eight, I don't know that this will change your mind. But if you are on the fence, this just might be the version you were hoping for.

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This is brilliantly edited.

The condensed and overlapping lines of dialogue, in theory, could have led to some disjointed and clumsy scenes. The way they were done, tough, actually create a much faster story arch progression, without missing that much of the essentials.

All the cuts are flawless as well.

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Absolutely gory glorious! An incredible distillation of Tarantino's 3 hour epic down to one hour plus change!
A truly amazing narrative achievement. I am completely jazzed to check out the other installments in the very cool fan editors collaboration project.

Whoever designed the Tarantino Tales opening titles, my hat off to you! Great work!
And using Pat Williams' The Streets of San Francisco theme was a truly inspired choice.
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The only version of the story I have seen as of this point in time, not exactly the sort of thing I normally enjoy (am not a particular QT fan) but works very well, though I can't help but wince at the notorious scene of unintended antique destruction!

Looks and sounds great, the 65 mm source still appreciable in the short-format with no noticeable edits, will be interesting to see how the full-length versions (Ex "Q.T.V.O" and "Roadshow" cuts) play out. Thanks Wraith for inviting me to quality-control preview!

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Very enjoyable! More or less the same story in a much tighter format. Does a great job of telling the story within a one hour limit.
First act cuts everything unnecessary. Action keeps moving in the haberdashery. Much faster climax. Good ending.
As someone who hates the Lincoln letter plot, I thought it was well done here.

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This was really well done, It's its own enclosed story, and it's hard to tell what's missing. Really well done.

My only critique is I would have left the line in that says the reason he doesn't want to go into in handcuffs is because he's the sheriff. It feels pointless arguing with him after that.
But this was a great edit.

Wraith is a master of his craft

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Another amazing Wraith presentation. Some of his best work. K really enjoyed it, to the last second. Editing was very well done, the cuts were well done. Every little detail was well handled. Great work, and Cheers my friend.

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This was a great feat of editing. The original is pretty long and the 1h05 version of it still feels pretty complete. Of course character development suffers a bit but that is the price to pay for cutting so much dialogue and expositions. My enjoyment was lessen by that and by the fact that the narrative was inevitably changed. I missed the evolution and tension we usually get from a close quarter like hateful8, but it's all because of the TTT format, not the editing. I would have removed the entire Lincoln letter 'subplot', I don't feel it was necessary or as good. In fact, I think all the end credit scenes where not necessary. We understood what happened.
Overall, it was a good TTT episode, made from one of the best Tarantino movie imo. The bar was set pretty high, and Wraith met the expectations! Good job! I'll have to watch your other versions of this movie now!

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@Wraith, I still believe you had the hardest job of all the editors. I've seen this movie quite a few time so I understand how hard the cuts must have been to get it into 65 mins. The edit itself is clean, and cutting ~2 hours of dialogue, exposition, character development, and more means you had a very very hard job,

-- The first half is fast-paced and tight, and we’re all introduced and eating stew by 28 min instead of 80 mins. VERY impressively done, at the expense of some mild character development.
-- I had fun looking for cut and moved lines of dialogue, overlapping into scenes where they didn’t belong.
-- Warren and Chris actually become different characters in the edit. It's a fun change and I liked it! (even though their friendship in the original was my favorite part haha)
-- Now that I've seen your cut 3.5 times, it's very impressive how many layers upon layers of overlap you have in these scenes! Dialogue moved to whole other areas, other dialogue shifted to the background of another conversation (like Bob hammering the door), the difficult behind editing around Silent Night without breaking the pace of the music.

EDIT: Having chatted with Wraith about it and seeing the direction they were taking the edit, I see how they got there. I was expecting a condensed version of the original, but Wraith was changing the story too. I retracted my issue with the Lincoln letter, given that Wraith specifically showed Chris crumple it up, so it did have a use to the story. Thank you for explaining it Wraith and being a good sport about taking some criticisms, and I love that you implemented some of the changes we talked about (and that you had already considered them before I even mentioned them!)

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