The Alamo - Roadshow Version (1960): Reconstructed in HD

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Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1960
Original Running Time:
162 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
202 minutes
Time Cut:
0 minutes
Time Added:
40 minutes
Subtitles Available:
Available in HD:
Synopsis:
This is the reconstructed version of the Roadshow with is 40 minutes longer in 720p and STEREO.
Intention:
To compile from the best available commercial sources a preservation of the 202 minute version of The Alamo and thus to recreate the famous TODD.AO Roadshow presentation.

This has the reconstructed Overture, Entre-Acte and Exit Music, using the correct music cues which are well documented.

A custom TODD AO credit, based on a still of the 70mm frame was also added.

The LAserdisc and VHS of the 202 min version were used as the editing reference.
Additional Notes:
The Laser Disc release unfortunately was only in STEREO despite the film winning an Oscar (and 6 other nominations) for its 6 Channel Mix. A custom re-created credit for the TODD AO process was also created. This presentation does not include ANY Fanedit, editor or other self-serving references out of respect to the importance of this film and the hope that the men in suits will restore it. Though the 70mm pristine print from which the Laser Disc and VHS were made has long since been lost (damaged to be precise) due to it mistreatment, many recent restorations from far more challengingly damaged material have been made. For those of you not familiar with this movie, it cost $2 million dollars back in 1960 (about 120 million today). It was produced and directed by John Wayne, a dream project he had long sought to make. The Alamo was shot in 65mm TODD-AO at 30fps, with Roadshow prints struck in 70mm to allow for the 6 channel audio. The film was then cut down for its theatrical release to 2hr 42min and the sole surviving 70mm print (discovered in Canada in 1991) was effectively destroyed after the Laserdisc and VHS was mastered from it in the 90s. Separation masters produced at the time have focus issues, and the surviving 35mm copies are missing the roadshow extra scenes. This edit combines the best of what there is, with some upscaling to 720p, edited in 1080p, and then mastered back to 1080 overall. Minimal sharpening was deployed in some of the recovered Laserdisc material. Although the VHS DOES have a surround track coding on it, syncing this to the whole movie proved to be problematic, and thus this is presented in STEREO only. This has been presented as a preservation, for educational purposes, journalistic comment and entertainment.
Other Sources:
THE ALAMO (Theatrical) - DVD
THE ALAMO (Theatrical) - BLU RAY
THE ALAMO (Roadshow Version) - LASERDISC
THE ALAMO (Roadshow Version) - VHS
THE ALAMO CD Score
OKLAHOMA - Blu Ray Todd AO Version
Special Thanks:
ArtisDead, Dwightfry & Inightmares
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features:
MAking of the TODD AO Caption video
Editing Details:
The Laser Disc was upscaled to 720 p, and the movie edited and rendered at 720p from the Blu Ray source intercut with the material unique to the Laser Disc. In some portions, the audio was taken from the Roadshow release on VHS which was brighter than the Laser Disc.
Cuts and Additions:
CHANGES: (Theatrical time stamp for insertions noted)
01: Credits: CUSTOM OVERTURE CREDIT
The logo credits of the Roadshow Cut are longer than in the Theatrical version and have been supplemented with a recreation of the TODD AO credit. 18 sec longer
02: The Roadshow begins with the "Overture" which lasts several minutes. 188 sec longer
03: After General Houston's flying visit at 10:20 The scene with old Jethro & Jim Bowie is longer; 135 sec longer
04: After mayor Segine's warning: 18:14 Col. Travis talks to his best friend Dickinson much longer. An awesome speech. 144 sec longer.
05: In the church basement: 49:33 The Theatrical version shows a short alternative shot of Crockett, Bowie & "Beekeeper" then it fades to black. Cricket and Beekeeper extra scenes 262 sec longer
06 : The next morning: 53:06 After Crockett, Bowie & Co. have left town "Flaca" walks down the stairs and takes a look around in the street scene 69 sec longer
07: Crockett, Bowie & Co. return to the mission: 53:54 "Beekeeper" and Bowie backbite the greenhorn Smitty 20sec longer
08: 58:10 After Crockett has left the room he walks up the stairs to Bowie where they have a little talk. 41 sec longer
09: Crockett & "Flaca" taking a walk: 1:05:48 The conversation between Crockett & "Flaca" is a little longer. 46 sec.
10: Flaca 1:07:29 "Flaca" asks: "Is that what love does, Davy?". 5 sec.
11: Enter' Acte: 11: Entr' Acte 1:16:47 -the Roadshow-typical "intermission". 244 sec.
12: After the "declaration of war": 1:18:28 Significant chunks of Crockett's and Travis' men handing out building materials in the mission and more. Meanwhile Bowie & Crockett visit Col. Travis & Dickinson. James Bonham gets some food. 278 sec.
13: After the night of drinking: 1:36:57 A troop from the fort finds a camp of the Mexican army. Some horsemen from the Mexican army realize this and team up with their comrades. During the shooting at the chase two men from the fort die and one gets wounded on his horse. Sue Dickinson comforts the wives of the two dead men. Mayor Segine and his men ride to the fort at night to support the men, Travis welcomes Segine & his men , Dickinson's daughter Lisas birthday is being celebrated Crockett's men have prepared something special – 537 sec.
CUSTOM ENTR' ACTE CREDIT
14: After the Mexicans' first great attack : 2:04:26 Beekeeper" informs Crockett that Parson was wounded. Crockett and his men leave the frame. 10 sec.
15: 2:04:47 At the doctor's office the next patient is being put on the table before he dies. 170 sec.
16: The night before the crucial attack: 2:15:30 A shot of the men sitting in the darkness. 17 sec.
17-20: Plus longer shots at 2:15:33, 7 sec, 2:15:37 , 5 sec, 2:15:40 , 6 sec, 2:15:43 ,6 sec.
21: 2:16:35 One of the man stands up angrily. 42 sec.
22: 2:16:35 Alternative shot:
23: The crucial battle: 2:23:07
24: another Mexican commander may induce the attack. 2 sec.
25: 2:27:34 The man killed on the wall hangs there a little longer.2 sec.
26: 2:29:24 edited differently than the Theatrical version. No time difference
27: 2:30:41 The badly wounded Crockett is lurching a little longer 5 sec.
28 Credits: 2:35:07 Roadshow-typical "Exit Music" at the end. 200 sec.
29 Custom Credit
30 Custom Exit Music Credit
Title Demo

Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1960
Original Running Time:
162 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
202 minutes
Time Cut:
0 minutes
Time Added:
40 minutes
Subtitles Available:
Available in HD:
Synopsis:
This is the reconstructed version of the Roadshow with is 40 minutes longer in 720p and STEREO.
Intention:
To compile from the best available commercial sources a preservation of the 202 minute version of The Alamo and thus to recreate the famous TODD.AO Roadshow presentation.

This has the reconstructed Overture, Entre-Acte and Exit Music, using the correct music cues which are well documented.

A custom TODD AO credit, based on a still of the 70mm frame was also added.

The LAserdisc and VHS of the 202 min version were used as the editing reference.
Additional Notes:
The Laser Disc release unfortunately was only in STEREO despite the film winning an Oscar (and 6 other nominations) for its 6 Channel Mix. A custom re-created credit for the TODD AO process was also created. This presentation does not include ANY Fanedit, editor or other self-serving references out of respect to the importance of this film and the hope that the men in suits will restore it. Though the 70mm pristine print from which the Laser Disc and VHS were made has long since been lost (damaged to be precise) due to it mistreatment, many recent restorations from far more challengingly damaged material have been made. For those of you not familiar with this movie, it cost $2 million dollars back in 1960 (about 120 million today). It was produced and directed by John Wayne, a dream project he had long sought to make. The Alamo was shot in 65mm TODD-AO at 30fps, with Roadshow prints struck in 70mm to allow for the 6 channel audio. The film was then cut down for its theatrical release to 2hr 42min and the sole surviving 70mm print (discovered in Canada in 1991) was effectively destroyed after the Laserdisc and VHS was mastered from it in the 90s. Separation masters produced at the time have focus issues, and the surviving 35mm copies are missing the roadshow extra scenes. This edit combines the best of what there is, with some upscaling to 720p, edited in 1080p, and then mastered back to 1080 overall. Minimal sharpening was deployed in some of the recovered Laserdisc material. Although the VHS DOES have a surround track coding on it, syncing this to the whole movie proved to be problematic, and thus this is presented in STEREO only. This has been presented as a preservation, for educational purposes, journalistic comment and entertainment.
Other Sources:
THE ALAMO (Theatrical) - DVD
THE ALAMO (Theatrical) - BLU RAY
THE ALAMO (Roadshow Version) - LASERDISC
THE ALAMO (Roadshow Version) - VHS
THE ALAMO CD Score
OKLAHOMA - Blu Ray Todd AO Version
Special Thanks:
ArtisDead, Dwightfry & Inightmares
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features:
MAking of the TODD AO Caption video
Editing Details:
The Laser Disc was upscaled to 720 p, and the movie edited and rendered at 720p from the Blu Ray source intercut with the material unique to the Laser Disc. In some portions, the audio was taken from the Roadshow release on VHS which was brighter than the Laser Disc.
Cuts and Additions:
CHANGES: (Theatrical time stamp for insertions noted)
01: Credits: CUSTOM OVERTURE CREDIT
The logo credits of the Roadshow Cut are longer than in the Theatrical version and have been supplemented with a recreation of the TODD AO credit. 18 sec longer
02: The Roadshow begins with the "Overture" which lasts several minutes. 188 sec longer
03: After General Houston's flying visit at 10:20 The scene with old Jethro & Jim Bowie is longer; 135 sec longer
04: After mayor Segine's warning: 18:14 Col. Travis talks to his best friend Dickinson much longer. An awesome speech. 144 sec longer.
05: In the church basement: 49:33 The Theatrical version shows a short alternative shot of Crockett, Bowie & "Beekeeper" then it fades to black. Cricket and Beekeeper extra scenes 262 sec longer
06 : The next morning: 53:06 After Crockett, Bowie & Co. have left town "Flaca" walks down the stairs and takes a look around in the street scene 69 sec longer
07: Crockett, Bowie & Co. return to the mission: 53:54 "Beekeeper" and Bowie backbite the greenhorn Smitty 20sec longer
08: 58:10 After Crockett has left the room he walks up the stairs to Bowie where they have a little talk. 41 sec longer
09: Crockett & "Flaca" taking a walk: 1:05:48 The conversation between Crockett & "Flaca" is a little longer. 46 sec.
10: Flaca 1:07:29 "Flaca" asks: "Is that what love does, Davy?". 5 sec.
11: Enter' Acte: 11: Entr' Acte 1:16:47 -the Roadshow-typical "intermission". 244 sec.
12: After the "declaration of war": 1:18:28 Significant chunks of Crockett's and Travis' men handing out building materials in the mission and more. Meanwhile Bowie & Crockett visit Col. Travis & Dickinson. James Bonham gets some food. 278 sec.
13: After the night of drinking: 1:36:57 A troop from the fort finds a camp of the Mexican army. Some horsemen from the Mexican army realize this and team up with their comrades. During the shooting at the chase two men from the fort die and one gets wounded on his horse. Sue Dickinson comforts the wives of the two dead men. Mayor Segine and his men ride to the fort at night to support the men, Travis welcomes Segine & his men , Dickinson's daughter Lisas birthday is being celebrated Crockett's men have prepared something special – 537 sec.
CUSTOM ENTR' ACTE CREDIT
14: After the Mexicans' first great attack : 2:04:26 Beekeeper" informs Crockett that Parson was wounded. Crockett and his men leave the frame. 10 sec.
15: 2:04:47 At the doctor's office the next patient is being put on the table before he dies. 170 sec.
16: The night before the crucial attack: 2:15:30 A shot of the men sitting in the darkness. 17 sec.
17-20: Plus longer shots at 2:15:33, 7 sec, 2:15:37 , 5 sec, 2:15:40 , 6 sec, 2:15:43 ,6 sec.
21: 2:16:35 One of the man stands up angrily. 42 sec.
22: 2:16:35 Alternative shot:
23: The crucial battle: 2:23:07
24: another Mexican commander may induce the attack. 2 sec.
25: 2:27:34 The man killed on the wall hangs there a little longer.2 sec.
26: 2:29:24 edited differently than the Theatrical version. No time difference
27: 2:30:41 The badly wounded Crockett is lurching a little longer 5 sec.
28 Credits: 2:35:07 Roadshow-typical "Exit Music" at the end. 200 sec.
29 Custom Credit
30 Custom Exit Music Credit
Title Demo

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I very much enjoyed this extended version of The Alamo. I grew up on John Wayne westerns, and this was one of my favorite. Seeing it extended in this seamless way was very cool.
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Thank you for making this Roadshow Version. It is my favorite version of this movie and I recommend to people that are fans of The Alamo check this version out for sure. I hope there will be an official Roadshow Version released in the future.

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i grew up with me watching john Wayne movies with my dad (the original reaper18783x). he remembered his dad telling him about a longer cut when it was released in the 60's.
i wanna thank Wraith for making this edit of an underrated classic.
the editing, quality and sound was so good and seamless, a lot of love and attention has gone in to this edit.
i always felt it was to long in its normal cut, and i can see why it was cut, but its sooooo good to finally see the cut my pop used to talk about and always wanted to see again. i cant thank wraith enough for this as my dad and pop would have loved this.
i think this is a must see as this movie was a classic and has one hell of a story around the making of it.
its still a great movie but i can see why they cut it down. i am going to watch this version every year on my pops birthday
thank you wraith for this and i look forward to all your future releases.

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Another wonderful edit by wraith, never ever seen this in it's entirety before - my parents had seen the full version on therir honeymoon back in 1960.
My father always told me about this version after he and i saw the truncated version back in the day which i loved , i recall being teary eyed when the duke got killed lol - and i've always wanted to see this full version
Now thanks to wraith i got to finally see the version dad always told me about, the extra scenes really made this film and didn't bog the story down at all, not for me anyhow.
Picture quality, sound and editing was really awesome and i hear wraith is busy on yet another version which i'm told the quality will be even better - looking forward to that one
Thank you for the opportunity to watch one of my most beloved films!

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Amazing job editing visual and audio quality in 1080p , I didn't realized how much was deleted by the director, Now you can truly enjoy John Wayne epic western movie. This fanedit shows how much can be done when you have passion to preserve American cinematography by making a movie more interesting and more watchable, I wish the production company can release more deleted scenes for every movie out there for Wraith to create his vision and for us to see it. Keep up the great job,

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Here's to the ladies, I love the ladies! This epic of a western took me a couple runs to get through but definitely worth seeing all that extra footage. Some of the scenes were a bit of a slog (theatrical version flows much better) but the sheer amount of dialogue is something I have a hard time keeping up with in terms of older movies. That's what makes them so good though, context! Thanks for another awesome edit Wraith

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