The Man Who Knew Too Much: Second Scribbling Cut

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Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1956
Original Running Time:
120 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
81 minutes
Time Cut:
39 minutes
Time Added:
0 minutes
Subtitles Available?
Available in HD?
Synopsis:
Second Scribbling Cut revisits a previously light edit of mine and indulges in significantly heavier trims for pacing, as well as to songs and humour. The Taxidermist scene has been re-scored to aid the new tone and there is a slight shift to the order of some scenes. The result is the removal of an additional 30 minutes (39 minutes in total), without sacrificing any of the core narrative. Optional audio is included for a crisper recording of the opening and closing themes, as well as the iconic Albert Hall sequence.
Intention:
I’ve always liked the original film and my first scribbling cut addressed mainly personal nitpicks, allowing for something chiefly from the parent’s perspective and eliminating filler. After reading Mnkykungfu’s criticisms, however, I could definitely see room for improvement. Having already got my original edit out of my system, I felt freed up to be significantly more “brutal” with the cuts here. No messing around. In my opinion, this is about as good a pacing as you can expect from the film without sacrificing character. With nearly 40 minutes cut, if this still tries your patience, I’d wager the film probably isn’t for you.
Other Sources:
North by Northwest: Original Soundtrack
Grain overlays
Foley lifted from Double Indemnity
Special Thanks:
Thank you to those that have encouraged me and contributed to the thread. This cut would not exist if Mnkykunfu had not been critical of my original cut, and they challenged me to do something more ambitious with the Taxidermy scene. Thank you also to Daedal, for feeding back on the interrogation scene and prompting me to refine the cuts there. Thanks also to my friend Joebby, who proofed the first draft.

Special thanks to CAL0901 who has tiredly worked to make subtitles available for many of my edits. The sub file he created for my original scribbling cut was used as the basis for the subs for this one.
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features:
- Subtitles
- Alternate audio options
Editing Details:
Built upon a lossless copy of my original edit. Techniques used included masking of shots, AI for extending shots, use of grain overlays, and re-scoring.
Cuts and Additions:
THE GIST:
- Rescored opening, outro and Albert Hall scene with crisper recordings (rescore and original audio both available) (from original scribbling cut)
• Removed superfluous shots/scenes that take us away from the parent’s perspective (from original scribbling cut)
• Removed comic mishaps in Taxidermist scene and re-scored for a more serious tone.
• Further removal of awkward dialogue
• More trims to exposition
• Further trims for pacing
• Trims to songs
• Slight shift to order of some scenes
• Trims to pace of dialogue
• Delayed reveal of what Bernard tells Ben as he dies


MAIN CUTLIST:

All the changes were made using a lossless copy of my previous Scribbling Cut, so only ADDITIONAL changes are listed below. For a more complete picture fo what's changed, please see the cutlist for my original scribbling cut.

0:13 - updated TSM branding
2:44 - Cut opening shot of bus interior. Trimmed bus exterior shot
3:13 - Trimmed looking at camel and Jo' reaction
3:34 - trimmed reaction to drink joke (Jo’s laugh is off-screen to allow for cutting Ben’s "it sure does)
3:36 - Trimmed Hank looking out of window
3:38 - Trimmed Hank walking down bus
3:54 - Trimmed anger over veil incident
4:35 - Trimmed Jo’s reaction
6:48 - trimmed arriving in morocco
7:42 - Trimmed getting in carriage
7:48 - Hank's comment crosses over with Jo watching Bernard
7:53 - Trimmed Jo watching bernard
8:31 - Trimmed Jo listing things Bernard now knows
8:55 - Conversation ends on "I have a feeling that Mr Bernard has...." and cut rest of conversation. Conversation ends on a blackout instead of a crossfade
8:58 - cut shot of carriage. Fade in later
9:21 - After "we're being watched" we have a straight cross-fade instead of another blackout
10:19 - Trimmed ce sera sera
11:12/11:39 - Trimmed Jo's conversation with Bernard
11:46 - Trimmed opening door
11:55 - Stranger at door inquires in english only, not french as well
12:30 - Trimmed Bernard speaking on telephone
13:07 - trimmed entering resteraunt
13:23 - Trimmed struggling to sit at morrocan resturaunt
13:45 - trimmed waiters arrival
13:48/14:06 - trimmed washing hands
15:47 - Trimmed conversation and food arriving
16:03 - trimmed bread antics
16:11 - trimmed meat tutorial and conversation
16:24 - slight change to shots during Jo speaking
17:04 - Ben interrupts to get up sooner
17:43 - Bernard doesn't speak to his companion in french, we just fade out.
17:52-18:03 - Further trims to moroccon festivities
18:49 - trimmed joking about medical expenses
19:51 - trimmed Drayton arriving
19:00 - further trims to Ben and Jo joking
19:29 - trimmed Hank showing sewing machines
19:36 - trimmed reaction to hank and market kafuffle
19:39 - trimmed Hank running away
19:49-20:14 - various trims to Bernard running from assasins. Various trims to Bernard approaching Ben
20:49 - we do not hear what Bernard whispers to Ben. This information is revealed later.
20:53- trimmed bernard whispering
21:14 - trimmed Ben making his way through the crowd
21:22 - trimmed Jo getting Ben a pen
21:27 - cut Drayton talking to police in french. he just translates
21:32 - trimmed police reaction
21:48 - trimmed Drayton convincing parents to let them take Hank
22:03 - trimmed Jo and Ben walking
22:28 - cut walking to police station / cut opening of conversation
22:36 - cut “they’re a cynical lot” and some other back and forth
24:02 - trimmed policeman listing connections to Bernard
24:11 - trimmed shot
24:27 - cut a chunk of buildup dialogue. We escalate to accusations quicker
24:31 - cut line and have policeman interupt jimmy
26:17/26:21/26:36 - Trimmed talking on phone
27:05 - cut some back and forth reassurance
34:15 - trimmed external shot. Hard cut instead of fade. Trimmed ben packing clothes.
36:30 - trimmed plane arriving
37:21 - cut a bunch of crowd clamouring and explanation from the staff. Fade straight to the office
40:24 - cut phone introductions
42;22 - fade out sooner
42:26 - trimmed entering hotel
44:06 - cut bickering about definition of psychosomatic
44:15 - trimmed Jo sitting down
44:20 - trimmed jimmy talking on phone. Trimmed Jo waiting to break the silence
44:33 - cut ALOT of chit chatter, some of it underscores jimmy on the phone, and jimmy abruptly says he has to leave
44:44 - trimmed jo pleading
45:49/46:03 - trims to Ben thinking he’s being stalked
46:13 - trimmed Ambrose walking away
46:15 - insert of Ambrose Chapel Taxidermist sign
46:17 - cut to Ambrose looking back over his shoulder
46:20 - trims to shots
46:25 - cut Ben walking towards building/insert extended shot of alleyway
46:33 - trimmed Ben walking down alleyway
46:37 - trimmed camera pan
46:45 - extended shot.
46:48 - cut shot of ben walking towards door
47:08 - cut there being two ambrose chapels. we go straight to the son
47:16 - trimmed Ambrose walking toward ben
48:53 - fixed double no no glitch
48:54 - 49:26 - Re-scored scene using re-arranged fragments lifted from North by Northwest (in order to acheive a different tone, less comedic). Foley. various trims to shots.
49:21 - cut shot of tiger
49:27 - cut shot of lion. cut opening chit-chatter, cut straight to query about jo’s husband
49:49 - trimmed silence between jo’s lines
49:57 - trimmed looking in phone directory
50:05 - trimmed guests looking puzzled
50:29 - cut guests speculating on what’s going on
50:51 - cut “she left 20 minutes ago - the phone rings as Ben is leaving. Added “yes? doctor come back it’s Jo!”
50:59 - cut looking back through the directory, hard cut to phone call.
51:03 - cut talking about chapel
51:16 - cut Ben asking for the address again
51:20 - trimmed getting out of car
Re-arranged scenes so that first scene inside church takes place after Ben shows up, not before.
52:27 - cut giving details about seating arrangemnets. Cut straight to giving the musical cue
52:32 - cut exposition and go straight to “listen carefully”. The audience can deduce the importance of the musical cue
52:46 - cut over 2 minutes of dialogue. We hear the cue once, then we cut to the assassin leaving. bada-bing, bada-boom
52:42 - Masked Jo out of birds-eye shot of assassin leaving for continuity (she’s no longer waiting for ben)
52:59 - We now cut to jo and ben entering the church instead of Jo still waiting for ben. various trims.
53:28 - cut a bunch of dialogue between ben and jo. trimmed fake singing
53:33 - trimmed Mrs Drayton so she spots them quicker
53:41 - trimmed Ben and Jo staring at Mrs Drayton
53:57 - trimmed walking down aisle
54:10 - Mrs Drayton only nods towards jo and ben once, then walks away
54:12 - trimmed Mr Drayton’s puzzled look
54:13 - trimmed singing and congregation sitting
54:25 - trimmed sermon
55:07 - trimmed jo leaving
56:30 - trimmed people leaving
56:53 - general trims across Ben and Drayton’s conversation for a more heated pace. Less gaps between lines.
57:36 - trimmed start of phone convo. General trims to pace of dialogue
58:32 - trimmed shots
59:29 - trimmed searching around exterior building. Cut to door rattling from inside. Rescore tweak to allow for smoother cuts between in and outside the church
1:00:01 - trimmed police orders
1:00:04 -trimmed ben escaping from tower and people’s reactions
1:01:31-1:03:20 - trims to jo searching around the albert hall
1:03:20-1:07:54 - The whole orchestra sequence is revisited from my last cut. Previously, all I did was cut out the portion of the music that HItchcock had clearly looped. Having removed this repeated section, I then made trims that fit with the new length of the piece. This time I have made various trims and tweaks to the piece of music in order to have more control over the pace of the scene. However, there still has to be a balance between the realistic length of the piece, maintaining the general rythm of things, and allowing all the action to flow naturally. Ben does not spend much less time searching here, but there is a faster build up to his arrival and the killer making their move. There is also less faffing about with Ben and Jo. Ben arrives, briefly interacts with Jo, then immediately goes to look for the killer.
1:08:03 - trimmed Jo explaining things
1:08:12 - trimmed shot
1:09:17 - trimmed going to office and start of conversation
1:09:49 - cut draytons waiting to be seen and being shown in. Cut A LOT of the start of the conversation, repeating information we already know, or don’t need to know.
General trims to the pace of the conversation. This scene has some of the worst acting in the film. Generally tried to make it faster paced/more heated, trimming poor delivery where possible
1:11:31 - trimmed draytons awkward silence. Trimmed start of convo with Buchanon
1:14:50 - adjusted volume, EQ and reverb on Jo’s vocals to match the distance as the shot moves outside the room
Trimmed shots leading up to the room Hank is in
1:15:21 - cut one whole verse and chorus of Jo’s song
1:15:31 - scrubbing of score, foley, and rescoring for continuity with what part of the song Jo is on
1:16:32 - cut line from song so that Jo reacts quicker to the whistling
1:16:51 - Ben slips out the room quicker
1:17:00 - Cut an entire verse and chorus from Jo’s song. Ben generally makes his way out of the room quicker
1:18:35 - mrs drayton intervenes quicker. Pace of dialogue increases
1:19:31 - trimmed shot
1:20:09 - trimmed shot
Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1956
Original Running Time:
120 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
81 minutes
Time Cut:
39 minutes
Time Added:
0 minutes
Subtitles Available?
Available in HD?
Synopsis:
Second Scribbling Cut revisits a previously light edit of mine and indulges in significantly heavier trims for pacing, as well as to songs and humour. The Taxidermist scene has been re-scored to aid the new tone and there is a slight shift to the order of some scenes. The result is the removal of an additional 30 minutes (39 minutes in total), without sacrificing any of the core narrative. Optional audio is included for a crisper recording of the opening and closing themes, as well as the iconic Albert Hall sequence.
Intention:
I’ve always liked the original film and my first scribbling cut addressed mainly personal nitpicks, allowing for something chiefly from the parent’s perspective and eliminating filler. After reading Mnkykungfu’s criticisms, however, I could definitely see room for improvement. Having already got my original edit out of my system, I felt freed up to be significantly more “brutal” with the cuts here. No messing around. In my opinion, this is about as good a pacing as you can expect from the film without sacrificing character. With nearly 40 minutes cut, if this still tries your patience, I’d wager the film probably isn’t for you.
Other Sources:
North by Northwest: Original Soundtrack
Grain overlays
Foley lifted from Double Indemnity
Special Thanks:
Thank you to those that have encouraged me and contributed to the thread. This cut would not exist if Mnkykunfu had not been critical of my original cut, and they challenged me to do something more ambitious with the Taxidermy scene. Thank you also to Daedal, for feeding back on the interrogation scene and prompting me to refine the cuts there. Thanks also to my friend Joebby, who proofed the first draft.

Special thanks to CAL0901 who has tiredly worked to make subtitles available for many of my edits. The sub file he created for my original scribbling cut was used as the basis for the subs for this one.
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features:
- Subtitles
- Alternate audio options
Editing Details:
Built upon a lossless copy of my original edit. Techniques used included masking of shots, AI for extending shots, use of grain overlays, and re-scoring.
Cuts and Additions:
THE GIST:
- Rescored opening, outro and Albert Hall scene with crisper recordings (rescore and original audio both available) (from original scribbling cut)
• Removed superfluous shots/scenes that take us away from the parent’s perspective (from original scribbling cut)
• Removed comic mishaps in Taxidermist scene and re-scored for a more serious tone.
• Further removal of awkward dialogue
• More trims to exposition
• Further trims for pacing
• Trims to songs
• Slight shift to order of some scenes
• Trims to pace of dialogue
• Delayed reveal of what Bernard tells Ben as he dies


MAIN CUTLIST:

All the changes were made using a lossless copy of my previous Scribbling Cut, so only ADDITIONAL changes are listed below. For a more complete picture fo what's changed, please see the cutlist for my original scribbling cut.

0:13 - updated TSM branding
2:44 - Cut opening shot of bus interior. Trimmed bus exterior shot
3:13 - Trimmed looking at camel and Jo' reaction
3:34 - trimmed reaction to drink joke (Jo’s laugh is off-screen to allow for cutting Ben’s "it sure does)
3:36 - Trimmed Hank looking out of window
3:38 - Trimmed Hank walking down bus
3:54 - Trimmed anger over veil incident
4:35 - Trimmed Jo’s reaction
6:48 - trimmed arriving in morocco
7:42 - Trimmed getting in carriage
7:48 - Hank's comment crosses over with Jo watching Bernard
7:53 - Trimmed Jo watching bernard
8:31 - Trimmed Jo listing things Bernard now knows
8:55 - Conversation ends on "I have a feeling that Mr Bernard has...." and cut rest of conversation. Conversation ends on a blackout instead of a crossfade
8:58 - cut shot of carriage. Fade in later
9:21 - After "we're being watched" we have a straight cross-fade instead of another blackout
10:19 - Trimmed ce sera sera
11:12/11:39 - Trimmed Jo's conversation with Bernard
11:46 - Trimmed opening door
11:55 - Stranger at door inquires in english only, not french as well
12:30 - Trimmed Bernard speaking on telephone
13:07 - trimmed entering resteraunt
13:23 - Trimmed struggling to sit at morrocan resturaunt
13:45 - trimmed waiters arrival
13:48/14:06 - trimmed washing hands
15:47 - Trimmed conversation and food arriving
16:03 - trimmed bread antics
16:11 - trimmed meat tutorial and conversation
16:24 - slight change to shots during Jo speaking
17:04 - Ben interrupts to get up sooner
17:43 - Bernard doesn't speak to his companion in french, we just fade out.
17:52-18:03 - Further trims to moroccon festivities
18:49 - trimmed joking about medical expenses
19:51 - trimmed Drayton arriving
19:00 - further trims to Ben and Jo joking
19:29 - trimmed Hank showing sewing machines
19:36 - trimmed reaction to hank and market kafuffle
19:39 - trimmed Hank running away
19:49-20:14 - various trims to Bernard running from assasins. Various trims to Bernard approaching Ben
20:49 - we do not hear what Bernard whispers to Ben. This information is revealed later.
20:53- trimmed bernard whispering
21:14 - trimmed Ben making his way through the crowd
21:22 - trimmed Jo getting Ben a pen
21:27 - cut Drayton talking to police in french. he just translates
21:32 - trimmed police reaction
21:48 - trimmed Drayton convincing parents to let them take Hank
22:03 - trimmed Jo and Ben walking
22:28 - cut walking to police station / cut opening of conversation
22:36 - cut “they’re a cynical lot” and some other back and forth
24:02 - trimmed policeman listing connections to Bernard
24:11 - trimmed shot
24:27 - cut a chunk of buildup dialogue. We escalate to accusations quicker
24:31 - cut line and have policeman interupt jimmy
26:17/26:21/26:36 - Trimmed talking on phone
27:05 - cut some back and forth reassurance
34:15 - trimmed external shot. Hard cut instead of fade. Trimmed ben packing clothes.
36:30 - trimmed plane arriving
37:21 - cut a bunch of crowd clamouring and explanation from the staff. Fade straight to the office
40:24 - cut phone introductions
42;22 - fade out sooner
42:26 - trimmed entering hotel
44:06 - cut bickering about definition of psychosomatic
44:15 - trimmed Jo sitting down
44:20 - trimmed jimmy talking on phone. Trimmed Jo waiting to break the silence
44:33 - cut ALOT of chit chatter, some of it underscores jimmy on the phone, and jimmy abruptly says he has to leave
44:44 - trimmed jo pleading
45:49/46:03 - trims to Ben thinking he’s being stalked
46:13 - trimmed Ambrose walking away
46:15 - insert of Ambrose Chapel Taxidermist sign
46:17 - cut to Ambrose looking back over his shoulder
46:20 - trims to shots
46:25 - cut Ben walking towards building/insert extended shot of alleyway
46:33 - trimmed Ben walking down alleyway
46:37 - trimmed camera pan
46:45 - extended shot.
46:48 - cut shot of ben walking towards door
47:08 - cut there being two ambrose chapels. we go straight to the son
47:16 - trimmed Ambrose walking toward ben
48:53 - fixed double no no glitch
48:54 - 49:26 - Re-scored scene using re-arranged fragments lifted from North by Northwest (in order to acheive a different tone, less comedic). Foley. various trims to shots.
49:21 - cut shot of tiger
49:27 - cut shot of lion. cut opening chit-chatter, cut straight to query about jo’s husband
49:49 - trimmed silence between jo’s lines
49:57 - trimmed looking in phone directory
50:05 - trimmed guests looking puzzled
50:29 - cut guests speculating on what’s going on
50:51 - cut “she left 20 minutes ago - the phone rings as Ben is leaving. Added “yes? doctor come back it’s Jo!”
50:59 - cut looking back through the directory, hard cut to phone call.
51:03 - cut talking about chapel
51:16 - cut Ben asking for the address again
51:20 - trimmed getting out of car
Re-arranged scenes so that first scene inside church takes place after Ben shows up, not before.
52:27 - cut giving details about seating arrangemnets. Cut straight to giving the musical cue
52:32 - cut exposition and go straight to “listen carefully”. The audience can deduce the importance of the musical cue
52:46 - cut over 2 minutes of dialogue. We hear the cue once, then we cut to the assassin leaving. bada-bing, bada-boom
52:42 - Masked Jo out of birds-eye shot of assassin leaving for continuity (she’s no longer waiting for ben)
52:59 - We now cut to jo and ben entering the church instead of Jo still waiting for ben. various trims.
53:28 - cut a bunch of dialogue between ben and jo. trimmed fake singing
53:33 - trimmed Mrs Drayton so she spots them quicker
53:41 - trimmed Ben and Jo staring at Mrs Drayton
53:57 - trimmed walking down aisle
54:10 - Mrs Drayton only nods towards jo and ben once, then walks away
54:12 - trimmed Mr Drayton’s puzzled look
54:13 - trimmed singing and congregation sitting
54:25 - trimmed sermon
55:07 - trimmed jo leaving
56:30 - trimmed people leaving
56:53 - general trims across Ben and Drayton’s conversation for a more heated pace. Less gaps between lines.
57:36 - trimmed start of phone convo. General trims to pace of dialogue
58:32 - trimmed shots
59:29 - trimmed searching around exterior building. Cut to door rattling from inside. Rescore tweak to allow for smoother cuts between in and outside the church
1:00:01 - trimmed police orders
1:00:04 -trimmed ben escaping from tower and people’s reactions
1:01:31-1:03:20 - trims to jo searching around the albert hall
1:03:20-1:07:54 - The whole orchestra sequence is revisited from my last cut. Previously, all I did was cut out the portion of the music that HItchcock had clearly looped. Having removed this repeated section, I then made trims that fit with the new length of the piece. This time I have made various trims and tweaks to the piece of music in order to have more control over the pace of the scene. However, there still has to be a balance between the realistic length of the piece, maintaining the general rythm of things, and allowing all the action to flow naturally. Ben does not spend much less time searching here, but there is a faster build up to his arrival and the killer making their move. There is also less faffing about with Ben and Jo. Ben arrives, briefly interacts with Jo, then immediately goes to look for the killer.
1:08:03 - trimmed Jo explaining things
1:08:12 - trimmed shot
1:09:17 - trimmed going to office and start of conversation
1:09:49 - cut draytons waiting to be seen and being shown in. Cut A LOT of the start of the conversation, repeating information we already know, or don’t need to know.
General trims to the pace of the conversation. This scene has some of the worst acting in the film. Generally tried to make it faster paced/more heated, trimming poor delivery where possible
1:11:31 - trimmed draytons awkward silence. Trimmed start of convo with Buchanon
1:14:50 - adjusted volume, EQ and reverb on Jo’s vocals to match the distance as the shot moves outside the room
Trimmed shots leading up to the room Hank is in
1:15:21 - cut one whole verse and chorus of Jo’s song
1:15:31 - scrubbing of score, foley, and rescoring for continuity with what part of the song Jo is on
1:16:32 - cut line from song so that Jo reacts quicker to the whistling
1:16:51 - Ben slips out the room quicker
1:17:00 - Cut an entire verse and chorus from Jo’s song. Ben generally makes his way out of the room quicker
1:18:35 - mrs drayton intervenes quicker. Pace of dialogue increases
1:19:31 - trimmed shot
1:20:09 - trimmed shot
Taxidermy Scene - Trimmed and Rescored
Taxidermy Scene - Trimmed and Rescored
Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
1956
Original Running Time:
120 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
81 minutes
Time Cut:
39 minutes
Time Added:
0 minutes
Subtitles Available?
Available in HD?
Synopsis:
Second Scribbling Cut revisits a previously light edit of mine and indulges in significantly heavier trims for pacing, as well as to songs and humour. The Taxidermist scene has been re-scored to aid the new tone and there is a slight shift to the order of some scenes. The result is the removal of an additional 30 minutes (39 minutes in total), without sacrificing any of the core narrative. Optional audio is included for a crisper recording of the opening and closing themes, as well as the iconic Albert Hall sequence.
Intention:
I’ve always liked the original film and my first scribbling cut addressed mainly personal nitpicks, allowing for something chiefly from the parent’s perspective and eliminating filler. After reading Mnkykungfu’s criticisms, however, I could definitely see room for improvement. Having already got my original edit out of my system, I felt freed up to be significantly more “brutal” with the cuts here. No messing around. In my opinion, this is about as good a pacing as you can expect from the film without sacrificing character. With nearly 40 minutes cut, if this still tries your patience, I’d wager the film probably isn’t for you.
Other Sources:
North by Northwest: Original Soundtrack
Grain overlays
Foley lifted from Double Indemnity
Special Thanks:
Thank you to those that have encouraged me and contributed to the thread. This cut would not exist if Mnkykunfu had not been critical of my original cut, and they challenged me to do something more ambitious with the Taxidermy scene. Thank you also to Daedal, for feeding back on the interrogation scene and prompting me to refine the cuts there. Thanks also to my friend Joebby, who proofed the first draft.

Special thanks to CAL0901 who has tiredly worked to make subtitles available for many of my edits. The sub file he created for my original scribbling cut was used as the basis for the subs for this one.
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features:
- Subtitles
- Alternate audio options
Editing Details:
Built upon a lossless copy of my original edit. Techniques used included masking of shots, AI for extending shots, use of grain overlays, and re-scoring.
Cuts and Additions:
THE GIST:
- Rescored opening, outro and Albert Hall scene with crisper recordings (rescore and original audio both available) (from original scribbling cut)
• Removed superfluous shots/scenes that take us away from the parent’s perspective (from original scribbling cut)
• Removed comic mishaps in Taxidermist scene and re-scored for a more serious tone.
• Further removal of awkward dialogue
• More trims to exposition
• Further trims for pacing
• Trims to songs
• Slight shift to order of some scenes
• Trims to pace of dialogue
• Delayed reveal of what Bernard tells Ben as he dies


MAIN CUTLIST:

All the changes were made using a lossless copy of my previous Scribbling Cut, so only ADDITIONAL changes are listed below. For a more complete picture fo what's changed, please see the cutlist for my original scribbling cut.

0:13 - updated TSM branding
2:44 - Cut opening shot of bus interior. Trimmed bus exterior shot
3:13 - Trimmed looking at camel and Jo' reaction
3:34 - trimmed reaction to drink joke (Jo’s laugh is off-screen to allow for cutting Ben’s "it sure does)
3:36 - Trimmed Hank looking out of window
3:38 - Trimmed Hank walking down bus
3:54 - Trimmed anger over veil incident
4:35 - Trimmed Jo’s reaction
6:48 - trimmed arriving in morocco
7:42 - Trimmed getting in carriage
7:48 - Hank's comment crosses over with Jo watching Bernard
7:53 - Trimmed Jo watching bernard
8:31 - Trimmed Jo listing things Bernard now knows
8:55 - Conversation ends on "I have a feeling that Mr Bernard has...." and cut rest of conversation. Conversation ends on a blackout instead of a crossfade
8:58 - cut shot of carriage. Fade in later
9:21 - After "we're being watched" we have a straight cross-fade instead of another blackout
10:19 - Trimmed ce sera sera
11:12/11:39 - Trimmed Jo's conversation with Bernard
11:46 - Trimmed opening door
11:55 - Stranger at door inquires in english only, not french as well
12:30 - Trimmed Bernard speaking on telephone
13:07 - trimmed entering resteraunt
13:23 - Trimmed struggling to sit at morrocan resturaunt
13:45 - trimmed waiters arrival
13:48/14:06 - trimmed washing hands
15:47 - Trimmed conversation and food arriving
16:03 - trimmed bread antics
16:11 - trimmed meat tutorial and conversation
16:24 - slight change to shots during Jo speaking
17:04 - Ben interrupts to get up sooner
17:43 - Bernard doesn't speak to his companion in french, we just fade out.
17:52-18:03 - Further trims to moroccon festivities
18:49 - trimmed joking about medical expenses
19:51 - trimmed Drayton arriving
19:00 - further trims to Ben and Jo joking
19:29 - trimmed Hank showing sewing machines
19:36 - trimmed reaction to hank and market kafuffle
19:39 - trimmed Hank running away
19:49-20:14 - various trims to Bernard running from assasins. Various trims to Bernard approaching Ben
20:49 - we do not hear what Bernard whispers to Ben. This information is revealed later.
20:53- trimmed bernard whispering
21:14 - trimmed Ben making his way through the crowd
21:22 - trimmed Jo getting Ben a pen
21:27 - cut Drayton talking to police in french. he just translates
21:32 - trimmed police reaction
21:48 - trimmed Drayton convincing parents to let them take Hank
22:03 - trimmed Jo and Ben walking
22:28 - cut walking to police station / cut opening of conversation
22:36 - cut “they’re a cynical lot” and some other back and forth
24:02 - trimmed policeman listing connections to Bernard
24:11 - trimmed shot
24:27 - cut a chunk of buildup dialogue. We escalate to accusations quicker
24:31 - cut line and have policeman interupt jimmy
26:17/26:21/26:36 - Trimmed talking on phone
27:05 - cut some back and forth reassurance
34:15 - trimmed external shot. Hard cut instead of fade. Trimmed ben packing clothes.
36:30 - trimmed plane arriving
37:21 - cut a bunch of crowd clamouring and explanation from the staff. Fade straight to the office
40:24 - cut phone introductions
42;22 - fade out sooner
42:26 - trimmed entering hotel
44:06 - cut bickering about definition of psychosomatic
44:15 - trimmed Jo sitting down
44:20 - trimmed jimmy talking on phone. Trimmed Jo waiting to break the silence
44:33 - cut ALOT of chit chatter, some of it underscores jimmy on the phone, and jimmy abruptly says he has to leave
44:44 - trimmed jo pleading
45:49/46:03 - trims to Ben thinking he’s being stalked
46:13 - trimmed Ambrose walking away
46:15 - insert of Ambrose Chapel Taxidermist sign
46:17 - cut to Ambrose looking back over his shoulder
46:20 - trims to shots
46:25 - cut Ben walking towards building/insert extended shot of alleyway
46:33 - trimmed Ben walking down alleyway
46:37 - trimmed camera pan
46:45 - extended shot.
46:48 - cut shot of ben walking towards door
47:08 - cut there being two ambrose chapels. we go straight to the son
47:16 - trimmed Ambrose walking toward ben
48:53 - fixed double no no glitch
48:54 - 49:26 - Re-scored scene using re-arranged fragments lifted from North by Northwest (in order to acheive a different tone, less comedic). Foley. various trims to shots.
49:21 - cut shot of tiger
49:27 - cut shot of lion. cut opening chit-chatter, cut straight to query about jo’s husband
49:49 - trimmed silence between jo’s lines
49:57 - trimmed looking in phone directory
50:05 - trimmed guests looking puzzled
50:29 - cut guests speculating on what’s going on
50:51 - cut “she left 20 minutes ago - the phone rings as Ben is leaving. Added “yes? doctor come back it’s Jo!”
50:59 - cut looking back through the directory, hard cut to phone call.
51:03 - cut talking about chapel
51:16 - cut Ben asking for the address again
51:20 - trimmed getting out of car
Re-arranged scenes so that first scene inside church takes place after Ben shows up, not before.
52:27 - cut giving details about seating arrangemnets. Cut straight to giving the musical cue
52:32 - cut exposition and go straight to “listen carefully”. The audience can deduce the importance of the musical cue
52:46 - cut over 2 minutes of dialogue. We hear the cue once, then we cut to the assassin leaving. bada-bing, bada-boom
52:42 - Masked Jo out of birds-eye shot of assassin leaving for continuity (she’s no longer waiting for ben)
52:59 - We now cut to jo and ben entering the church instead of Jo still waiting for ben. various trims.
53:28 - cut a bunch of dialogue between ben and jo. trimmed fake singing
53:33 - trimmed Mrs Drayton so she spots them quicker
53:41 - trimmed Ben and Jo staring at Mrs Drayton
53:57 - trimmed walking down aisle
54:10 - Mrs Drayton only nods towards jo and ben once, then walks away
54:12 - trimmed Mr Drayton’s puzzled look
54:13 - trimmed singing and congregation sitting
54:25 - trimmed sermon
55:07 - trimmed jo leaving
56:30 - trimmed people leaving
56:53 - general trims across Ben and Drayton’s conversation for a more heated pace. Less gaps between lines.
57:36 - trimmed start of phone convo. General trims to pace of dialogue
58:32 - trimmed shots
59:29 - trimmed searching around exterior building. Cut to door rattling from inside. Rescore tweak to allow for smoother cuts between in and outside the church
1:00:01 - trimmed police orders
1:00:04 -trimmed ben escaping from tower and people’s reactions
1:01:31-1:03:20 - trims to jo searching around the albert hall
1:03:20-1:07:54 - The whole orchestra sequence is revisited from my last cut. Previously, all I did was cut out the portion of the music that HItchcock had clearly looped. Having removed this repeated section, I then made trims that fit with the new length of the piece. This time I have made various trims and tweaks to the piece of music in order to have more control over the pace of the scene. However, there still has to be a balance between the realistic length of the piece, maintaining the general rythm of things, and allowing all the action to flow naturally. Ben does not spend much less time searching here, but there is a faster build up to his arrival and the killer making their move. There is also less faffing about with Ben and Jo. Ben arrives, briefly interacts with Jo, then immediately goes to look for the killer.
1:08:03 - trimmed Jo explaining things
1:08:12 - trimmed shot
1:09:17 - trimmed going to office and start of conversation
1:09:49 - cut draytons waiting to be seen and being shown in. Cut A LOT of the start of the conversation, repeating information we already know, or don’t need to know.
General trims to the pace of the conversation. This scene has some of the worst acting in the film. Generally tried to make it faster paced/more heated, trimming poor delivery where possible
1:11:31 - trimmed draytons awkward silence. Trimmed start of convo with Buchanon
1:14:50 - adjusted volume, EQ and reverb on Jo’s vocals to match the distance as the shot moves outside the room
Trimmed shots leading up to the room Hank is in
1:15:21 - cut one whole verse and chorus of Jo’s song
1:15:31 - scrubbing of score, foley, and rescoring for continuity with what part of the song Jo is on
1:16:32 - cut line from song so that Jo reacts quicker to the whistling
1:16:51 - Ben slips out the room quicker
1:17:00 - Cut an entire verse and chorus from Jo’s song. Ben generally makes his way out of the room quicker
1:18:35 - mrs drayton intervenes quicker. Pace of dialogue increases
1:19:31 - trimmed shot
1:20:09 - trimmed shot
Taxidermy Scene - Trimmed and Rescored

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Having not seen this film (or the original that this is a remake of) for a few years, I suddenly felt the need for a Hitchcockian thriller and from its description this edit seemed to fit the bill perfectly.

It did not disappoint, plenty of thrills with zero drag in the story and not an edit out of place. I cannot think of how it could be condensed down more, which is interesting when you consider that the 1934 version is even shorter at only 75 minutes.

There was a fade-out that felt a little fast and one instance where I consciously thought that a scene had been cut, but it turned out that these were both native to the source, the latter at first might appear to be a plot hole but it makes sense when you stop to think a little.

I chose the track with the rerecorded music, nothing gives away its origins other than the comparative clarity but this is fitting for the scenes as you want to focus on just the score and the visuals.

The only thing I can currently think of that I would have liked to have been left in is Hitch's customary cameo at the market, in a shot of a few seconds among others cut for pacing, hardly too important though! The main issue is the video quality, while generously encoded with no artifacts the source unfortunately has problems such as significant colour flickering (which has only recently been rectified in the recent restoration for the American 4K disc) but that's hardly the fault of the editor.

I hope to get the chance to watch the initial Scribbling Cut soon, looking forward to seeing what the extra half-hour adds.

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Big Hitchcock fan so any one of his films cut down by over 30 minutes would be sacrilegious. Though the original film is good it was not my favorite but wow this edit puts it right back up there in Hitchcock classic status. So my problem with The Man Who Knew too Much is it dragged to me. Repeated watches were not as exciting as Psycho, The Birds, etc. This edit is excellent as it tightens the movie, makes some excellent music changes and just improves the pacing. I can't believe how much better the movie went by and how much I enjoyed a movie I considered a minor Hitchcock movie. I just did not miss those over 30 minutes of changes. It was seamless. So a big thank you to the editor for making this movie new again for me. I highly recommend to everyone including my fellow Hitchcock fans who need to see this film like it is new and improved by the master himself.

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