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Original Release Date:
2013
Original Running Time:
126 minutes
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107 minutes
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Synopsis:
An extended version of the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), with all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. and a more fleshed out character arc for Harada.
Intention:
After the great collaborative effort with the Silver Screen Samurai on the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), I added a few things back in for my personal version, without the restraints like leaving all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. But recently, I have been trying to give the story a more complete feel that might warrant its own release. IMO Harada's story arc still felt incomplete, and not quite a "final act" battle opponent due to lacking motivation for keeping Mariko away from Logan at the end.

Resentment against mutants was much of Shingen's anger at his father, and the same resides with Harada too, as he also shows aggression to Viper in the scenes we removed. Having Harada hate mutants seems like a valid reason to want to end Logan's influence over Mariko, something that might override his obedience to her. So playing off that, I thought I could use the "Blackened Mantle" technique, and rewrite narratives through new subtitles. I wanted to turn any of the subtitle translations for Japanese into actual on screen text anyways. This also allows me to rewrite the discussion Mariko and Harada have in the tower, before Logan's clash with the Black clan. Now, we get a more full story of his job as leader of the Black Clan, his honor forcing him to "protect" Mariko more than simply "obeying" her, which allows him to make his own judgment on what he perceived as threatening to her. He also references Logan as an outsider, like Shingen does before.
Additional Notes:
The final thing that bothered me with the Viper storyline removal is the poison Harada uses to send Logan to see Jean one last time. It feels important but we are unsure why. Where did he get it and why does he think it might incapacitate Logan? In the JMR, it's implied that the green steam from Logan's tea is the same that Harada is using again, but it's a difficult thread to connect even if you know to look for it. In order to give this poison more of a backstory, I started looking at the scenes when he got the poison from Viper, and while I don't think I could use those outright, started playing with dialogue to see if someone could give it to him along the way. The scene in the alley showed promise, so I started working there, as a "back alley" deal where he gets it. The available dialogue didn't really work out, and since Viper never talks in JMR, I've been sending lines I recite through some AI to get dialogue that brings some compelling backstory, more visual evidence of Harada's hatred of mutants, and an easter egg from some research I could find on enemies of Wolverine for the source of the poison - the Ogun Ryu.
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
An extended version of the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), with all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. and a more fleshed out character arc for Harada.
Cuts and Additions:
Base is the Extended Edition
Japanese translations are burned in when available
Removed Yukio's line "Some believe" from car ride into Tokyo, keeping it about Yukio.
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting was edited to remove Old Yashida wanting Logan's powers. Instead, Yashida in this edit is a good person with no hidden agenda. He also does not ask Logan to protect Mariko. That is simply Logan’s heroic side that he is battling against due to his guilt. Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with the excellent nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix and slight SFX of "Jean rolling on top of Logan to make out " added by Wakeupkeo
Funeral Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Funeral fight trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Harada saving Logan has been removed unfortunately, because it clashes with Harada’s new character arc.
Some dialogue and shots remove from Love Hotel reception due to repeat exposition due to burned in subtitles
Mariko saving Logan at the hotel is slightly edited to make Mariko seem more badass.
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office is trimmed.
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow after removal of Viper scene.
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada trimmed to remove the "old boyfriend" aspect. Instead, they both were just proficient martial artists as kids.
Noburo's interrogation is trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it.
Scene added of Harada getting mutant poison in a busy metro alley from the Ogun Ryu clan.
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping and Mariko's line about not wanting to commit suicide removed.
Shingen and Viper interaction removed.
Removed Yukio mentioning the tower is a company facility in the mountainside, keeping it simply as some building in Yashida’s birthplace.
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later.
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed.
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying the company were removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan. Dialogue edited so Shigen replies "She's Gone. He took her."
All scenes of Viper and Hamada were removed.
Dialogue between Hamada and Mariko at Yashida's tower changed to reveal backstory: Harada is honorbound to protect Mariko against foreign influences, mutants are an abomination.
Dialogue pulled from a cut Viper and Harada interaction used as Harada’s opening dialogue to Logan “Listen to me, mutant.” and a line from “Blade Runner Black Lotus” to give Harada one more line before fighting “But this has gone far enough. Walk away.”
End of the Ninja fight trimmed and score edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean, created by Wakeupkeo.
All of the scenes in the tower were removed.
Alternate ending with the yellow suit added. Yukio’s line about being his bodyguard removed for more open-ended future possibilities to be imagined by the viewer..
Mid-credit scene removed. Two years later just seems too long, and kills the yellow suit possibilities if we go right into Days without seeing the yellow suit…
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Original Release Date:
2013
Original Running Time:
126 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
107 minutes
Subtitles Available:
Available in HD:
Synopsis:
An extended version of the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), with all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. and a more fleshed out character arc for Harada.
Intention:
After the great collaborative effort with the Silver Screen Samurai on the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), I added a few things back in for my personal version, without the restraints like leaving all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. But recently, I have been trying to give the story a more complete feel that might warrant its own release. IMO Harada's story arc still felt incomplete, and not quite a "final act" battle opponent due to lacking motivation for keeping Mariko away from Logan at the end.

Resentment against mutants was much of Shingen's anger at his father, and the same resides with Harada too, as he also shows aggression to Viper in the scenes we removed. Having Harada hate mutants seems like a valid reason to want to end Logan's influence over Mariko, something that might override his obedience to her. So playing off that, I thought I could use the "Blackened Mantle" technique, and rewrite narratives through new subtitles. I wanted to turn any of the subtitle translations for Japanese into actual on screen text anyways. This also allows me to rewrite the discussion Mariko and Harada have in the tower, before Logan's clash with the Black clan. Now, we get a more full story of his job as leader of the Black Clan, his honor forcing him to "protect" Mariko more than simply "obeying" her, which allows him to make his own judgment on what he perceived as threatening to her. He also references Logan as an outsider, like Shingen does before.
Additional Notes:
The final thing that bothered me with the Viper storyline removal is the poison Harada uses to send Logan to see Jean one last time. It feels important but we are unsure why. Where did he get it and why does he think it might incapacitate Logan? In the JMR, it's implied that the green steam from Logan's tea is the same that Harada is using again, but it's a difficult thread to connect even if you know to look for it. In order to give this poison more of a backstory, I started looking at the scenes when he got the poison from Viper, and while I don't think I could use those outright, started playing with dialogue to see if someone could give it to him along the way. The scene in the alley showed promise, so I started working there, as a "back alley" deal where he gets it. The available dialogue didn't really work out, and since Viper never talks in JMR, I've been sending lines I recite through some AI to get dialogue that brings some compelling backstory, more visual evidence of Harada's hatred of mutants, and an easter egg from some research I could find on enemies of Wolverine for the source of the poison - the Ogun Ryu.
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
An extended version of the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), with all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. and a more fleshed out character arc for Harada.
Cuts and Additions:
Base is the Extended Edition
Japanese translations are burned in when available
Removed Yukio's line "Some believe" from car ride into Tokyo, keeping it about Yukio.
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting was edited to remove Old Yashida wanting Logan's powers. Instead, Yashida in this edit is a good person with no hidden agenda. He also does not ask Logan to protect Mariko. That is simply Logan’s heroic side that he is battling against due to his guilt. Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with the excellent nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix and slight SFX of "Jean rolling on top of Logan to make out " added by Wakeupkeo
Funeral Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Funeral fight trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Harada saving Logan has been removed unfortunately, because it clashes with Harada’s new character arc.
Some dialogue and shots remove from Love Hotel reception due to repeat exposition due to burned in subtitles
Mariko saving Logan at the hotel is slightly edited to make Mariko seem more badass.
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office is trimmed.
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow after removal of Viper scene.
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada trimmed to remove the "old boyfriend" aspect. Instead, they both were just proficient martial artists as kids.
Noburo's interrogation is trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it.
Scene added of Harada getting mutant poison in a busy metro alley from the Ogun Ryu clan.
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping and Mariko's line about not wanting to commit suicide removed.
Shingen and Viper interaction removed.
Removed Yukio mentioning the tower is a company facility in the mountainside, keeping it simply as some building in Yashida’s birthplace.
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later.
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed.
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying the company were removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan. Dialogue edited so Shigen replies "She's Gone. He took her."
All scenes of Viper and Hamada were removed.
Dialogue between Hamada and Mariko at Yashida's tower changed to reveal backstory: Harada is honorbound to protect Mariko against foreign influences, mutants are an abomination.
Dialogue pulled from a cut Viper and Harada interaction used as Harada’s opening dialogue to Logan “Listen to me, mutant.” and a line from “Blade Runner Black Lotus” to give Harada one more line before fighting “But this has gone far enough. Walk away.”
End of the Ninja fight trimmed and score edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean, created by Wakeupkeo.
All of the scenes in the tower were removed.
Alternate ending with the yellow suit added. Yukio’s line about being his bodyguard removed for more open-ended future possibilities to be imagined by the viewer..
Mid-credit scene removed. Two years later just seems too long, and kills the yellow suit possibilities if we go right into Days without seeing the yellow suit…

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With the most recent trailer of Deadpool & Wolverine I decided to start re watching all the x-men movies. When I got to the Wolverine I decided to checkout the JMR cut. Found this extended cut. It was FANTASTIC. Went from an okay movie to one of my favorite x-men films. I highly recommend this edit!

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Wakeupkeo did a solid job with the editing of this one, especially throughout the earlier parts of the movie. It wasn’t until the third act that I noticed a couple things that were changed or lacked polishing and they’re as follows:
-When/how did Logan get the heart robot? Idk what could be done there but perhaps, like someone else said, some visual/audio effects with the shotgun slug that gets him? I don’t remember the original enough to know how it worked there.
-Some improper English (grammar, capitalization, etc.) in the subs that that tipped me off that they were changed at all (not bad!)
-The back-to-back fades to white were very noticeable, though I’m sure it’s as a result of having to wrap the movie up cleanly with what material is left. Logan’s farewell to Jean also had him downed and in just the wifebeater, which threw me off when coming back to him upright and wearing the jacket.. I wonder if there’s a way to include Silver Samurai to avoid these issues but I’m willing to bet you’ve tried :/
-Racist ninja guy and the other survivors let Logan go?
-At 1:37:28 there’s a noticeable audio skip

Ultimately I appreciate the effort and changes made in this edit but, because it winds up feeling incomplete, I can’t recommend it as a replacement to the original.

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Fixes the awful final act and just a way more enjoyable movie in general

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I want to thank Wakeupco and Silver Screen Samurai for their collaboration on this wonderful edit. First and foremost, removing most of that abysmal final act alone elevates the movie tremendously. It was nonsensical, poorly executed, and felt very underwhelming. Keeping the plot more narrow and more grounded was the much better choice as opposed to the desire to steal Logan’s immortality.

I do want to point out my only partial critique. The way the conflict ended seemed rather abrupt. We have Logan causing an explosion that makes it a bit ambiguous what happens to all the villains, and all of a sudden we transition to the closing of the movie. Some of the issue here has to do with my preexisting knowledge of the movie, which likely makes me really feel the way things end a bit too quickly.

Overall, the visual and audio quality appeared solid as I could not identify any noticeable problem. The partially newly created narrative throughout felt logical and coherent as I felt the motivations by all the characters seemed clear to me, particularly with the change in the English subtitles for Harada at the end.

I also liked the “extended” material added by Wakeupco to give this movie more of an adult-like feeling to it. Overall, this will be my go-to version of the movie as it has a more satisfying and grounded narrative. I again want to thank the editors for their hard work and recommend other X-Men fans to give this a shot.

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Certainly the Silver Screen Samurai gets in the best cuts here. Such mystique drawn from those moments after the oblique reference at the beginning. Less is more. Presentation of the supernatural in true oriental style. Understated, yet sharply impacted. Wakeupkeo's cuts are smoothly executed and the baggage intuitively excised to leave noone left holding an empty bag. Excepting the dying Yashida who was quite disrespectfully snubbed for his kindly offer although it can be put down to a grumpy old man thing on Logan's part. In keeping with his role as the Old Fecker. Indeed.

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