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Original Release Date:
2013
Original Running Time:
126 minutes
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Fanedit Running Time:
107 minutes
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Synopsis:
An extended version of the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), with all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. and a more fleshed out character arc for Harada.
Intention:
After the great collaborative effort with the Silver Screen Samurai on the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), I added a few things back in for my personal version, without the restraints like leaving all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. But recently, I have been trying to give the story a more complete feel that might warrant its own release. IMO Harada's story arc still felt incomplete, and not quite a "final act" battle opponent due to lacking motivation for keeping Mariko away from Logan at the end.
Resentment against mutants was much of Shingen's anger at his father, and the same resides with Harada too, as he also shows aggression to Viper in the scenes we removed. Having Harada hate mutants seems like a valid reason to want to end Logan's influence over Mariko, something that might override his obedience to her. So playing off that, I thought I could use the "Blackened Mantle" technique, and rewrite narratives through new subtitles. I wanted to turn any of the subtitle translations for Japanese into actual on screen text anyways. This also allows me to rewrite the discussion Mariko and Harada have in the tower, before Logan's clash with the Black clan. Now, we get a more full story of his job as leader of the Black Clan, his honor forcing him to "protect" Mariko more than simply "obeying" her, which allows him to make his own judgment on what he perceived as threatening to her. He also references Logan as an outsider, like Shingen does before.
Resentment against mutants was much of Shingen's anger at his father, and the same resides with Harada too, as he also shows aggression to Viper in the scenes we removed. Having Harada hate mutants seems like a valid reason to want to end Logan's influence over Mariko, something that might override his obedience to her. So playing off that, I thought I could use the "Blackened Mantle" technique, and rewrite narratives through new subtitles. I wanted to turn any of the subtitle translations for Japanese into actual on screen text anyways. This also allows me to rewrite the discussion Mariko and Harada have in the tower, before Logan's clash with the Black clan. Now, we get a more full story of his job as leader of the Black Clan, his honor forcing him to "protect" Mariko more than simply "obeying" her, which allows him to make his own judgment on what he perceived as threatening to her. He also references Logan as an outsider, like Shingen does before.
Additional Notes:
The final thing that bothered me with the Viper storyline removal is the poison Harada uses to send Logan to see Jean one last time. It feels important but we are unsure why. Where did he get it and why does he think it might incapacitate Logan? In the JMR, it's implied that the green steam from Logan's tea is the same that Harada is using again, but it's a difficult thread to connect even if you know to look for it. In order to give this poison more of a backstory, I started looking at the scenes when he got the poison from Viper, and while I don't think I could use those outright, started playing with dialogue to see if someone could give it to him along the way. The scene in the alley showed promise, so I started working there, as a "back alley" deal where he gets it. The available dialogue didn't really work out, and since Viper never talks in JMR, I've been sending lines I recite through some AI to get dialogue that brings some compelling backstory, more visual evidence of Harada's hatred of mutants, and an easter egg from some research I could find on enemies of Wolverine for the source of the poison - the Ogun Ryu.
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
An extended version of the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), with all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. and a more fleshed out character arc for Harada.
Cuts and Additions:
Base is the Extended Edition
Japanese translations are burned in when available
Removed Yukio's line "Some believe" from car ride into Tokyo, keeping it about Yukio.
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting was edited to remove Old Yashida wanting Logan's powers. Instead, Yashida in this edit is a good person with no hidden agenda. He also does not ask Logan to protect Mariko. That is simply Logan’s heroic side that he is battling against due to his guilt. Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with the excellent nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix and slight SFX of "Jean rolling on top of Logan to make out " added by Wakeupkeo
Funeral Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Funeral fight trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Harada saving Logan has been removed unfortunately, because it clashes with Harada’s new character arc.
Some dialogue and shots remove from Love Hotel reception due to repeat exposition due to burned in subtitles
Mariko saving Logan at the hotel is slightly edited to make Mariko seem more badass.
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office is trimmed.
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow after removal of Viper scene.
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada trimmed to remove the "old boyfriend" aspect. Instead, they both were just proficient martial artists as kids.
Noburo's interrogation is trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it.
Scene added of Harada getting mutant poison in a busy metro alley from the Ogun Ryu clan.
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping and Mariko's line about not wanting to commit suicide removed.
Shingen and Viper interaction removed.
Removed Yukio mentioning the tower is a company facility in the mountainside, keeping it simply as some building in Yashida’s birthplace.
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later.
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed.
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying the company were removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan. Dialogue edited so Shigen replies "She's Gone. He took her."
All scenes of Viper and Hamada were removed.
Dialogue between Hamada and Mariko at Yashida's tower changed to reveal backstory: Harada is honorbound to protect Mariko against foreign influences, mutants are an abomination.
Dialogue pulled from a cut Viper and Harada interaction used as Harada’s opening dialogue to Logan “Listen to me, mutant.” and a line from “Blade Runner Black Lotus” to give Harada one more line before fighting “But this has gone far enough. Walk away.”
End of the Ninja fight trimmed and score edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean, created by Wakeupkeo.
All of the scenes in the tower were removed.
Alternate ending with the yellow suit added. Yukio’s line about being his bodyguard removed for more open-ended future possibilities to be imagined by the viewer..
Mid-credit scene removed. Two years later just seems too long, and kills the yellow suit possibilities if we go right into Days without seeing the yellow suit…
Japanese translations are burned in when available
Removed Yukio's line "Some believe" from car ride into Tokyo, keeping it about Yukio.
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting was edited to remove Old Yashida wanting Logan's powers. Instead, Yashida in this edit is a good person with no hidden agenda. He also does not ask Logan to protect Mariko. That is simply Logan’s heroic side that he is battling against due to his guilt. Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with the excellent nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix and slight SFX of "Jean rolling on top of Logan to make out " added by Wakeupkeo
Funeral Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Funeral fight trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Harada saving Logan has been removed unfortunately, because it clashes with Harada’s new character arc.
Some dialogue and shots remove from Love Hotel reception due to repeat exposition due to burned in subtitles
Mariko saving Logan at the hotel is slightly edited to make Mariko seem more badass.
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office is trimmed.
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow after removal of Viper scene.
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada trimmed to remove the "old boyfriend" aspect. Instead, they both were just proficient martial artists as kids.
Noburo's interrogation is trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it.
Scene added of Harada getting mutant poison in a busy metro alley from the Ogun Ryu clan.
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping and Mariko's line about not wanting to commit suicide removed.
Shingen and Viper interaction removed.
Removed Yukio mentioning the tower is a company facility in the mountainside, keeping it simply as some building in Yashida’s birthplace.
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later.
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed.
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying the company were removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan. Dialogue edited so Shigen replies "She's Gone. He took her."
All scenes of Viper and Hamada were removed.
Dialogue between Hamada and Mariko at Yashida's tower changed to reveal backstory: Harada is honorbound to protect Mariko against foreign influences, mutants are an abomination.
Dialogue pulled from a cut Viper and Harada interaction used as Harada’s opening dialogue to Logan “Listen to me, mutant.” and a line from “Blade Runner Black Lotus” to give Harada one more line before fighting “But this has gone far enough. Walk away.”
End of the Ninja fight trimmed and score edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean, created by Wakeupkeo.
All of the scenes in the tower were removed.
Alternate ending with the yellow suit added. Yukio’s line about being his bodyguard removed for more open-ended future possibilities to be imagined by the viewer..
Mid-credit scene removed. Two years later just seems too long, and kills the yellow suit possibilities if we go right into Days without seeing the yellow suit…
Faneditor Name:
Original Movie/Show Title:
Genre:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
2013
Original Running Time:
126 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
107 minutes
Subtitles Available:
Available in HD:
Additional Links:
Contact:
Synopsis:
An extended version of the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), with all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. and a more fleshed out character arc for Harada.
Intention:
After the great collaborative effort with the Silver Screen Samurai on the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), I added a few things back in for my personal version, without the restraints like leaving all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. But recently, I have been trying to give the story a more complete feel that might warrant its own release. IMO Harada's story arc still felt incomplete, and not quite a "final act" battle opponent due to lacking motivation for keeping Mariko away from Logan at the end.
Resentment against mutants was much of Shingen's anger at his father, and the same resides with Harada too, as he also shows aggression to Viper in the scenes we removed. Having Harada hate mutants seems like a valid reason to want to end Logan's influence over Mariko, something that might override his obedience to her. So playing off that, I thought I could use the "Blackened Mantle" technique, and rewrite narratives through new subtitles. I wanted to turn any of the subtitle translations for Japanese into actual on screen text anyways. This also allows me to rewrite the discussion Mariko and Harada have in the tower, before Logan's clash with the Black clan. Now, we get a more full story of his job as leader of the Black Clan, his honor forcing him to "protect" Mariko more than simply "obeying" her, which allows him to make his own judgment on what he perceived as threatening to her. He also references Logan as an outsider, like Shingen does before.
Resentment against mutants was much of Shingen's anger at his father, and the same resides with Harada too, as he also shows aggression to Viper in the scenes we removed. Having Harada hate mutants seems like a valid reason to want to end Logan's influence over Mariko, something that might override his obedience to her. So playing off that, I thought I could use the "Blackened Mantle" technique, and rewrite narratives through new subtitles. I wanted to turn any of the subtitle translations for Japanese into actual on screen text anyways. This also allows me to rewrite the discussion Mariko and Harada have in the tower, before Logan's clash with the Black clan. Now, we get a more full story of his job as leader of the Black Clan, his honor forcing him to "protect" Mariko more than simply "obeying" her, which allows him to make his own judgment on what he perceived as threatening to her. He also references Logan as an outsider, like Shingen does before.
Additional Notes:
The final thing that bothered me with the Viper storyline removal is the poison Harada uses to send Logan to see Jean one last time. It feels important but we are unsure why. Where did he get it and why does he think it might incapacitate Logan? In the JMR, it's implied that the green steam from Logan's tea is the same that Harada is using again, but it's a difficult thread to connect even if you know to look for it. In order to give this poison more of a backstory, I started looking at the scenes when he got the poison from Viper, and while I don't think I could use those outright, started playing with dialogue to see if someone could give it to him along the way. The scene in the alley showed promise, so I started working there, as a "back alley" deal where he gets it. The available dialogue didn't really work out, and since Viper never talks in JMR, I've been sending lines I recite through some AI to get dialogue that brings some compelling backstory, more visual evidence of Harada's hatred of mutants, and an easter egg from some research I could find on enemies of Wolverine for the source of the poison - the Ogun Ryu.
Release Information:
Digital
Editing Details:
An extended version of the James Mangold Restoration (JMR), with all the f-bombs and all the extended scenes, and the yellow suit ending. and a more fleshed out character arc for Harada.
Cuts and Additions:
Base is the Extended Edition
Japanese translations are burned in when available
Removed Yukio's line "Some believe" from car ride into Tokyo, keeping it about Yukio.
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting was edited to remove Old Yashida wanting Logan's powers. Instead, Yashida in this edit is a good person with no hidden agenda. He also does not ask Logan to protect Mariko. That is simply Logan’s heroic side that he is battling against due to his guilt. Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with the excellent nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix and slight SFX of "Jean rolling on top of Logan to make out " added by Wakeupkeo
Funeral Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Funeral fight trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Harada saving Logan has been removed unfortunately, because it clashes with Harada’s new character arc.
Some dialogue and shots remove from Love Hotel reception due to repeat exposition due to burned in subtitles
Mariko saving Logan at the hotel is slightly edited to make Mariko seem more badass.
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office is trimmed.
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow after removal of Viper scene.
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada trimmed to remove the "old boyfriend" aspect. Instead, they both were just proficient martial artists as kids.
Noburo's interrogation is trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it.
Scene added of Harada getting mutant poison in a busy metro alley from the Ogun Ryu clan.
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping and Mariko's line about not wanting to commit suicide removed.
Shingen and Viper interaction removed.
Removed Yukio mentioning the tower is a company facility in the mountainside, keeping it simply as some building in Yashida’s birthplace.
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later.
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed.
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying the company were removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan. Dialogue edited so Shigen replies "She's Gone. He took her."
All scenes of Viper and Hamada were removed.
Dialogue between Hamada and Mariko at Yashida's tower changed to reveal backstory: Harada is honorbound to protect Mariko against foreign influences, mutants are an abomination.
Dialogue pulled from a cut Viper and Harada interaction used as Harada’s opening dialogue to Logan “Listen to me, mutant.” and a line from “Blade Runner Black Lotus” to give Harada one more line before fighting “But this has gone far enough. Walk away.”
End of the Ninja fight trimmed and score edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean, created by Wakeupkeo.
All of the scenes in the tower were removed.
Alternate ending with the yellow suit added. Yukio’s line about being his bodyguard removed for more open-ended future possibilities to be imagined by the viewer..
Mid-credit scene removed. Two years later just seems too long, and kills the yellow suit possibilities if we go right into Days without seeing the yellow suit…
Japanese translations are burned in when available
Removed Yukio's line "Some believe" from car ride into Tokyo, keeping it about Yukio.
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting was edited to remove Old Yashida wanting Logan's powers. Instead, Yashida in this edit is a good person with no hidden agenda. He also does not ask Logan to protect Mariko. That is simply Logan’s heroic side that he is battling against due to his guilt. Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with the excellent nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix and slight SFX of "Jean rolling on top of Logan to make out " added by Wakeupkeo
Funeral Scene edited to remove most of the shots where Viper is the focus, keeping her in the background.
Funeral fight trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Harada saving Logan has been removed unfortunately, because it clashes with Harada’s new character arc.
Some dialogue and shots remove from Love Hotel reception due to repeat exposition due to burned in subtitles
Mariko saving Logan at the hotel is slightly edited to make Mariko seem more badass.
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office is trimmed.
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow after removal of Viper scene.
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada trimmed to remove the "old boyfriend" aspect. Instead, they both were just proficient martial artists as kids.
Noburo's interrogation is trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it.
Scene added of Harada getting mutant poison in a busy metro alley from the Ogun Ryu clan.
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping and Mariko's line about not wanting to commit suicide removed.
Shingen and Viper interaction removed.
Removed Yukio mentioning the tower is a company facility in the mountainside, keeping it simply as some building in Yashida’s birthplace.
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later.
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed.
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying the company were removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan. Dialogue edited so Shigen replies "She's Gone. He took her."
All scenes of Viper and Hamada were removed.
Dialogue between Hamada and Mariko at Yashida's tower changed to reveal backstory: Harada is honorbound to protect Mariko against foreign influences, mutants are an abomination.
Dialogue pulled from a cut Viper and Harada interaction used as Harada’s opening dialogue to Logan “Listen to me, mutant.” and a line from “Blade Runner Black Lotus” to give Harada one more line before fighting “But this has gone far enough. Walk away.”
End of the Ninja fight trimmed and score edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean, created by Wakeupkeo.
All of the scenes in the tower were removed.
Alternate ending with the yellow suit added. Yukio’s line about being his bodyguard removed for more open-ended future possibilities to be imagined by the viewer..
Mid-credit scene removed. Two years later just seems too long, and kills the yellow suit possibilities if we go right into Days without seeing the yellow suit…
User reviews
13 reviews
Overall rating
9.6
Audio/Video Quality
9.9(13)
Audio Editing
9.9(13)
Visual Editing
9.5(13)
Narrative
9.2(13)
Enjoyment
9.5(13)
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
This film is well above average until the 3rd act, with this edition this ends up being resolved. I really liked this work.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
9.8
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
9.0
Enjoyment
10.0
In general, this edit considerably improves the experience of The Wolverine, the plot has more coherence and the narrative develops in a more mature way. It's incredible how it completely changes several characters for the better, including Ichiro Yashida himself. The biggest difference from the original cut is the removal of the final battle against the Silver Samurai (which originally felt out of place).
Excellent work, you can see the dedication and love for the character.
Excellent work, you can see the dedication and love for the character.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
8.8
Audio/Video Quality
9.0
Audio Editing
9.0
Visual Editing
9.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
10.0
A definite improvement. The removal of the third-act nonsense is very appreciated, as is the more gentle treatment of Yashida's character. For me, the mark of a good fanedit is the question: Will I watch this instead of the original going forward? The answer here is yes, though I wouldn't say it is necessarily perfect.
AUDIO/VISUAL
Quality was definitely good enough, but for a 10GB file I would expect more consistent fidelity. Some scenes had an overall waxy presentation, though it was not distracting. Most of the time I was just along for the ride. 9/10
AUDIO EDITING
There's a line at 1:19:00 that sounds overly "digital" and is clipped at the end, and there's a noticeable hitch in the volume at 1:37:27. Additionally, I think the dialogue may be slightly out of sync after that moment. No other obvious edits so I rank 9/10 considering the number of other changes.
VIDEO EDITING
Essentially fine. The fade to white is a reasonable way to side-step some of the action in the third act, and for the gains incurred by it, I find it acceptable. A fade to white earlier in the presentation may provide a greater sense of continuity. 9/10
NARRATIVE
I greatly prefer this narrative overall, though Harada is very under-developed and comes across in a very random way near the end. Logan mentions, "...the archer at the funeral", though we never see Harada fire a single arrow. Generally speaking, if Mariko wasn't in any peril, I'd be happy if this ended after Logan removes the thing from his heart. 8/10
ENJOYMENT
Better than the original, so 10/10.
Definitely recommended.
AUDIO/VISUAL
Quality was definitely good enough, but for a 10GB file I would expect more consistent fidelity. Some scenes had an overall waxy presentation, though it was not distracting. Most of the time I was just along for the ride. 9/10
AUDIO EDITING
There's a line at 1:19:00 that sounds overly "digital" and is clipped at the end, and there's a noticeable hitch in the volume at 1:37:27. Additionally, I think the dialogue may be slightly out of sync after that moment. No other obvious edits so I rank 9/10 considering the number of other changes.
VIDEO EDITING
Essentially fine. The fade to white is a reasonable way to side-step some of the action in the third act, and for the gains incurred by it, I find it acceptable. A fade to white earlier in the presentation may provide a greater sense of continuity. 9/10
NARRATIVE
I greatly prefer this narrative overall, though Harada is very under-developed and comes across in a very random way near the end. Logan mentions, "...the archer at the funeral", though we never see Harada fire a single arrow. Generally speaking, if Mariko wasn't in any peril, I'd be happy if this ended after Logan removes the thing from his heart. 8/10
ENJOYMENT
Better than the original, so 10/10.
Definitely recommended.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
9.5
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
8.0
Enjoyment
9.0
Big fan of this edit, and the editing work is superb. Really well done across the board, and only one or two noticeable cuts (mainly the dual black fades towards the end). The first 80% of this film is pretty much flawless, and a great improvement to the. original. Really grounded, fast paced, and believable. The last act is severely truncated to remove the Silver Samurai, and while it kinda works, it also feels pretty underwhelming, and the film wraps up quickly. It's still good, but if Wakeupkeo had more to work with, there could be a more satisfying conclusion. I still prefer this edit's ending to the original's ending, and recommend this edit to anyone who's a fan of the character.
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
Overall rating
10.0
Audio/Video Quality
10.0
Audio Editing
10.0
Visual Editing
10.0
Narrative
10.0
Enjoyment
10.0
With the most recent trailer of Deadpool & Wolverine I decided to start re watching all the x-men movies. When I got to the Wolverine I decided to checkout the JMR cut. Found this extended cut. It was FANTASTIC. Went from an okay movie to one of my favorite x-men films. I highly recommend this edit!
User Review
Do you recommend this edit?
Yes
Format Watched
Digital
