Wolverine: The James Mangold Restoration, The

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Original Movie/Show Title:
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Original Release Date:
2013
Original Running Time:
117 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
106 minutes
Subtitles Available:
Available in HD:
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Synopsis:
Essentially, this project aims to restore James Mangold's original vision for the film, before the studio enforced changes to the script. Knowledge of the original script, and how it was changed, comes directly from Mangold himself as well as behind the scenes commentary. The "identity reveal" of Silver Samurai being the real villain was definitely not part of that script, and Viper was also added because the studio wanted a villain with superpowers. So in this edit, she's been reduced to almost non-existence in the film as well.

Specifically, this edit completely removes the third act and any prior scenes or shots setting it up. The effect of cutting this is that it eliminates a plot-hole fuelled twist that comes totally out of left field, but that it also returns the story to being told almost exclusively from Logan's point-of-view; thus honouring Mangold's original vision, for a small-scale neo-noir grounded in real world stakes -- rather than a VFX heavy tent-pole designed to compete with bigger-scale films from that year.

I have helped Silver Screen Samurai come up with the broad strokes of the final act, but they created the first nightmare and the end of the ninja battle until the airport scene all on their own, in order to fulfil their vision completely.

CHANGES INTRODUCED IN 2.0:
Added back deleted Harada backstory (absent in 1.0)
New transition to final battle, created by Silver Screen Samurai
Intention:
In this version, when old Yashida dies at the beginning, he’s actually dead. Neither the finale in the fortress, or the inclusion of Viper, were in Mangold’s original version of the film. They were added by the studio. Thus they’ve been removed, in accordance with his wishes; rendering the film more of small-scale Neo-noir set in Japan, with real world stakes and logic, as originally intended.
Special Thanks:
The Silver Screen Samurai
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features:
Japanese Translation Only Subtitles also available
Editing Details:
Knowledge of the original script, and how it was changed, comes directly from Mangold himself; since he's spoken pretty openly about it in interviews on the subject, as well as statements made by various crew members/actors on the original version of the script.
Cuts and Additions:
CHANGES INTRODUCED IN 2.0:
Added back deleted Harada backstory (absent in 1.0)
New transition to final battle, created by Silver Screen Samurai

Base is the Theatrical Version
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Soldier commiting suicide used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Logan's claws in Jean used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Logan killing bear used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of the arrow in the hunter's hand used
Trimmed Yumiko dialogue with Logan while being driven to old Yashida's home, using select parts of both theatrical and extended dialogue
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting edited to remove some of the shots of Viper, using extended scene as starting point.
Extended Edition scene of Shingen and old Yashida added and slightly trimmed
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with new nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix done by Wakeupkeo
Viper removed from relevance during funeral
Extended Edition Funeral fight scene with more graphic shots used, trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Extended Edition Train Fight version with more graphic shots used
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office trimmed
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada removed
Noburo's interrogation trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping removed.
Interaction between Hamada and Mariko at old Yashida's house removed
Shingen and Viper interaction removed
Extended Edition scenes of Logan Yumiko and Shingen at old Yashida's home with more graphic shots used
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying company removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan.
All scenes of Viper and Hamada removed
Extended Edition Ninja fight with more graphic shots used
End of the Ninja fight heavily edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean created by Silver Screen Samurai.
All of the scenes in the tower removed.
New mid-credit scene edited to remove Logan's bone claws created by Silver Screen Samurai.
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Original Movie/Show Title:
Genre:
Franchise:
Fanedit Type:
Original Release Date:
2013
Original Running Time:
117 minutes
Fanedit Release Date:
Fanedit Running Time:
106 minutes
Subtitles Available:
Available in HD:
image
Synopsis:
Essentially, this project aims to restore James Mangold's original vision for the film, before the studio enforced changes to the script. Knowledge of the original script, and how it was changed, comes directly from Mangold himself as well as behind the scenes commentary. The "identity reveal" of Silver Samurai being the real villain was definitely not part of that script, and Viper was also added because the studio wanted a villain with superpowers. So in this edit, she's been reduced to almost non-existence in the film as well.

Specifically, this edit completely removes the third act and any prior scenes or shots setting it up. The effect of cutting this is that it eliminates a plot-hole fuelled twist that comes totally out of left field, but that it also returns the story to being told almost exclusively from Logan's point-of-view; thus honouring Mangold's original vision, for a small-scale neo-noir grounded in real world stakes -- rather than a VFX heavy tent-pole designed to compete with bigger-scale films from that year.

I have helped Silver Screen Samurai come up with the broad strokes of the final act, but they created the first nightmare and the end of the ninja battle until the airport scene all on their own, in order to fulfil their vision completely.

CHANGES INTRODUCED IN 2.0:
Added back deleted Harada backstory (absent in 1.0)
New transition to final battle, created by Silver Screen Samurai
Intention:
In this version, when old Yashida dies at the beginning, he’s actually dead. Neither the finale in the fortress, or the inclusion of Viper, were in Mangold’s original version of the film. They were added by the studio. Thus they’ve been removed, in accordance with his wishes; rendering the film more of small-scale Neo-noir set in Japan, with real world stakes and logic, as originally intended.
Special Thanks:
The Silver Screen Samurai
Release Information:
Digital
Special Features:
Japanese Translation Only Subtitles also available
Editing Details:
Knowledge of the original script, and how it was changed, comes directly from Mangold himself; since he's spoken pretty openly about it in interviews on the subject, as well as statements made by various crew members/actors on the original version of the script.
Cuts and Additions:
CHANGES INTRODUCED IN 2.0:
Added back deleted Harada backstory (absent in 1.0)
New transition to final battle, created by Silver Screen Samurai

Base is the Theatrical Version
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Soldier commiting suicide used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Logan's claws in Jean used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of Logan killing bear used
Extended Edition with more graphic shot of the arrow in the hunter's hand used
Trimmed Yumiko dialogue with Logan while being driven to old Yashida's home, using select parts of both theatrical and extended dialogue
Logan and Old Yashida's meeting edited to remove some of the shots of Viper, using extended scene as starting point.
Extended Edition scene of Shingen and old Yashida added and slightly trimmed
Logan being poisoned by Viper scene replaced with new nightmare sequence from Silver Screen Samurai, with Jean hair FX fix done by Wakeupkeo
Viper removed from relevance during funeral
Extended Edition Funeral fight scene with more graphic shots used, trimmed to reduce appearance of Viper and some of Hamada's face shots
Extended Edition Train Fight version with more graphic shots used
Some of Logan's dialogue at the end of the scene in the vet's office trimmed
Transition to train to Nagasaki adjusted slightly for flow
Logan and Mariko's discussion about her and Hamada removed
Noburo's interrogation trimmed to remove discussion of Yashida ruining the company and Shingen trying to save it
Shingen's slap of Mariko just before her kidnapping removed.
Interaction between Hamada and Mariko at old Yashida's house removed
Shingen and Viper interaction removed
Extended Edition scenes of Logan Yumiko and Shingen at old Yashida's home with more graphic shots used
Shots of Shingen getting his swords and armor moved slightly later
Yumiko's mentions of seeing Yashida dying removed
Shingen's lines about Mariko and Shingen destroying company removed, dialogue trimmed down to just Shingen resenting Yashida's appreciation of Logan.
All scenes of Viper and Hamada removed
Extended Edition Ninja fight with more graphic shots used
End of the Ninja fight heavily edited to be the final act.
Final transition from snowblower crash to the dream of Jean created by Silver Screen Samurai.
All of the scenes in the tower removed.
New mid-credit scene edited to remove Logan's bone claws created by Silver Screen Samurai.
Cover art by Wakeupkeo (DOWNLOAD HERE)
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8.7
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8.7(3)
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7.0
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A/V Quality and Editing is very good. No noticeable cuts. The first Logan dream sequence editing was really nicely done. The new ending feels quite odd. It wasn't clear to me who the ninjas are or why they kidnap Mariko.
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QUALITY

I'll get the most negative aspect over with right away: the audio quality was very poor. I'm surprised to see no one has mentioned this, so I don't know if this is the case across the other versions, but I did ask before downloading and was told that the file types were just there as a matter of preference. I saw the Version 3 MKV and it sounded like the audio had gone through two too many phases of compression. I notice that the bitrate is 128kb/s which is way too low anyway for what is being presented as a blu-ray equivalent, but there's definitely something more than that at play from the sound of things. While the quality generally sounded brittle, the sound of rain and loud action scenes betrayed obvious artefacts which were not pleasant to listen to.

In terms of visual quality, this largely looked very good. There's the odd darker shot where quite a bit of compression is noticeable, but more often than not everything looks clean and crisp, although not on par with what I'd expect from the file size.

Since this was a collab with some work being done by SS and some by Keo, I wonder if some of this is a result of passing compressed files back and forth? This is purely speculative though.


VISUAL

One tiny niggle is the opening text, giving context for the concept of the edit. This is nicely written and gives clear reasoning, but it's dumped in large blocks that go by much too fast to read. The name of "James Mangold" also just suddenly appears on screen instead of fading in with the quote like everything else, which I assumed to be a small oversight.

A larger thing is a re-purposed dream sequence with various bits of added sound design and quick visual cuts going on (at around 32:45). I remember it being trialled when the edit was in-the-works and there was something about it that jarred with me then, even though I liked the idea. Seeing it in the context of the edit made it seem all the more 'fanedity' to me. Other than this, there was nothing bad that stood out from a visual editing perspective and obviously a lot of the transitions work very well.


AUDIO

Mostly good across the board, though there were a few cuts that sounded slightly unnatural to me. Mostly in the first half of the film:

- 23:09
- 33:21
- 39:45 (there is a jump in the audio)
- 50:08
- 53:00-53:10 (this is an odd edit simply because a music cue fades in then immediately fades out again)
- 1:27:07

Note that I viewed this on a surround system. Some of these come across a lot better in stereo.


NARRATIVE

I have only seen The Wolverine once, so in some cases I'm not sure if narrative weaknesses lie with the theatrical cut or not. Largely this is more or less coherent, but it also just seemed a bit vague to me in regard to motivations etc. While the bigger picture of a girl on the run with Logan as protector was clear, I always felt like there was some context missing. This may have been an issue with the original, I can't be sure, but that's how it felt to me.

The mystery of why Logan has a machine attached to his heart is both baffling and also jars with the stated concept of the edit (to keep things grounded and avoid added science fiction elements, as per Mangold's intent). That being said, the film does largely come across as a grounded thriller that happens to star Wolverine, and I did find this refreshing. Arguably it makes it slightly mundane and underwhelming as an X-Men entry, but I preferred it to the mecha madness we get at the end of the theatrical cut.

Funnily enough, compared to most others, I don't really consider the end to be all that anti-climactic. We get two big action sequences, one of which is with the only person we've been presented with as a villain during the course of the movie. What IS abrupt is the transition from "end of battle" to "all's well that ends well"; we just get a whiteout as the smoke clears and then we're at the airport, waving goodbye. Technically, I thought this came across quite well, but you can tell scenes have been skipped over. Still, it's nowhere near as jarring or unnatural as I thought it would be based on reviews. A much larger issue in my view is that our "main baddie" is done away with, and then our final battle is with someone I didn't even recognise. I think they were present at the funeral? But beyond that, I didn't know who they were supposed to be or why they were significant. The fiance also seems underdeveloped. Logan says he "seems like an asshole" but I didn't recall them ever having a scene together, then when we next see him it's Logan breaking into his room to interrogate him.


ENJOYMENT

The audio quality is the biggest flaw for me, and something I was surprised to encounter. If that wasn't an issue, I would probably consider this preferable to watching the theatrical, despite some narrative confusion. But hearing audio artefacts and how brittle everything is during loud action scenes was grating and distracted from my enjoyment quite a bit.

Thank you to both of the editors for the experience and I'm sorry I can't be more positive. I hope the audio can be improved in a future version (assuming it's not a fluke in the particular file I have).

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An extremely well executed edit, and a significant improvement over the original. The only downside is the end feels a little abrupt, only because there isn't material to extend it further. All of the cuts were completely seamless, and everything looked and sounded great to me.

I've always had a soft spot for this film, so having this alternate version exist, and be executed so well, is a great thing.
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I already really enjoy The Wolverine, and while my go-to version will still be the Extended Cut, this version is a great shorter alternative!

There are only a couple moments where I noticed some cuts, as a few scene transitions happen rather abruptly.
We lose the sequence in which Viper plants the robot on Logan, so that does sorta feel unexplained when it's discovered later.

The majority of the edit's happen towards the end, with the climax removing the Silver Samurai character entirely. The edit to Jean telling Logan he can die now and meet her in the afterlife feels a little out of place, because he is mostly unaffected by the explosion. Though the cut to and from that moment worked pretty well! Ending there and not revealing that Yashida was still alive does wonders for making the character drama between Yuriko and her father feel more authentic, and leaves you with a positive view of Yashida, who is described as being a good man multiple times.

Overall, a great effort at giving a more grounded take on the story.

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Never seen either of the official cuts, bought the Blu-ray for the sole purpose of seeing this edit after watching Wraith's "Requiem War" distillation of the original trilogy about a year ago. From the cutlist it sounds as either this or Wakeupkeo's newly-produced "Mangold Extended Edit" will be my go-to versions, it's so refreshing to have a more grounded story than that typical of the genre nowadays, which I been weary of for a good few years.

Technical aspects all looked and sounded good, great quality to my eyes and ears (LQ v3 with 6 GB file and 317 kbps audio) with no ugly cuts that I noticed. The only thing I was a little surprised at was the relatively quick conclusion to the final fight, but maybe that is result of being conditioned to examples that occupy much more significant fractions of a film's runtime.

Thanks to both the creators for putting this together, seems to me so far that this franchise is best experienced through edits!

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This Fanedit is my go go version to me, 'cause I remember watching the Theatrical thinking that like ''there some flaws but it looks nice''.
But then when I read a information about James Mangold original idea for this movie, I felt suprised, that the Villians, the viper, and the Mariko's grandfather (being a villiain too) was like any kind of Superhero movie would be, but for him, it wasn't, and I kinda like his original Idea, it make me imagine a while watching the Theatrical and Extended Cut a whole different film with his Idea.

Now the visual still looks great, the Audio it needs a little work on that, but anyway, looks good, the narrative with this version looked interested, except the ending, I prefer the alternative ending where Yukio gives Logan the Wolverine suit, you know what I mean? Still, looks good, and I don't care what anyone says, James's Idea looks much better without villians, and I wish James could watch his idea coming to light, thanks to us Fanedits.

So that's why this version is a go go to me, I definetly recommend this edit, it looks great.

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I don't have much to say, I enjoyed this edit a lot! I like the original but this is cool, seeing what could have been or what original intentions were. My only hitch was the audio I guess. There were some spots here or there where it was weird but I also don't understand how any of this gets put together so I find the work that Wakeupkeo has done here as amazing still. And again, this is worth watching!

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I watched this movie in the original version many moons ago, so this was a nice reminder of how cool it actually was. It is a bit of an odd mix to have Wolverine mixed with the Japanese culture, however I always was drawn a bit to comics where the heroes were out of their elements and the story took place in a "non typical" environment for them. It always felt like a "special edition" to me.
This edit took out the best of this mix and of this "special edition story". It is funny, because even back then when I watched the theatrical cut of this movie I hated the original ending. This one feels kind of abrupt to me in one way since subliminary the movie seems to move to a specific climax that kind of never comes, but maybe that's just because I saw the original ending, hard to say.
Anyway this edit is fantastic and really makes me want to read an X-man / Wolverine comic now :)
Thanks for the hard work!

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